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[Andresvmb]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

[Dwlee99]

And to whoever said that RCE was a bad shot - screw you. The guy was defending Kyouko by calling them aimless Scum and joined that wagon super late when it looked inevitable. Yeah I though about shooting JacksonVirgo but I read them as Town and their reaction here makes me think they’re Town still.

It was a bad shot sorry my guy

UNVOTE:

You would have shot Jackson who is Town so haha

I probably would have shot alice, actually

[Aaron]

UNVOTE:

[Three]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

RC shot is probably for the best tbh, I would've pushed him today anyway. I'm not sold on JV town but I'm fine with putting him on hold for now.

[Aaron]

This is frustrating. Now I really want to take a look at all the people who kept insisting NM was the vig because that was entirely stupid. Even if NM were the vig, they shouldn't have drawn attention to it and the more attention, the more likely vig is to actually feel the need to correct them and cc. I've just scum read all the pr's this game like a genius. I wish Andres hadn't claimed but I probably wouldn't have backed off today if not for it so that's frustrating.

[Aaron]

NM's claim was very clearly a meme claim. The only thing to consider is are his reads really this bad?
I'm having doubts on Three because he was the one constantly saying NM was vig which was ridiculous and without extra information or a different wincon, shouldn't be something to draw attention to.

I don't have anything else at the moment.

[Dwlee99]

STD is... in this game?

VOTE: Save the Dragons

[Three]

This wagon was a little fast

My reads have been crap lately so I'm very suspicious of this wagon that I started

I originally town read this, but StD didn't really show any progression past this and stuck to the RC wagon.

[Three]

This is frustrating. Now I really want to take a look at all the people who kept insisting NM was the vig because that was entirely stupid. Even if NM were the vig, they shouldn't have drawn attention to it and the more attention, the more likely vig is to actually feel the need to correct them and cc. I've just scum read all the pr's this game like a genius. I wish Andres hadn't claimed but I probably wouldn't have backed off today if not for it so that's frustrating.

NM's claim was very clearly a meme claim. The only thing to consider is are his reads really this bad?
I'm having doubts on Three because he was the one constantly saying NM was vig which was ridiculous and without extra information or a different wincon, shouldn't be something to draw attention to.

I don't have anything else at the moment.

I've already addressed this in past posts. Biggest takeaway though is that it literally didn't matter if NM was actually Vig or not because the situation resolves itself. Obviously the Jailkeeper had to die first, but NM would've been shot tonight and we'd know if he was telling the truth or not then.

Honestly I don't understand the logic of having doubts on me just because I chose to believe NM was telling the truth. How would that be alignment indicative? And are you suggesting I bussed Kyo instead of letting the A50 or RC wagons go through? Because uh, Mafia Doctor was definitely the most valuable role on the scum team and I easily could've saved Kyo.

[JacksonVirgo]

JV you're not giving us anything to work with. You hard defended scum and you're not doing anything to town tell or scum hunt. It's not like we picked your name out of a hat, this isn't a random wagon.

No I totally understand the wagon at it's core, just looking even two seconds into why I "defended" kyouko would actually reveal I only "hard defended" them because I didn't reciprocate the scum-tells everyone else seemed to see from them, and nobody gave me reads that I could vibe with so I am not going to just blind wagon somebody just because everyone else does, that would be stupid.

I am scum-hunting but it's not easy to feel the game when you're the one most likely to die.

[JacksonVirgo]

Why would the vigi shoot the JK

What???!!? You think the vig shot fua and scum shot RCE?! I completely take back my townread on you.

Sorry this was totally my bad. I understand what JacksonVirgo means now.

Lol allgd

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't really want JV to endgame though, so am fine killing him now

Scaredy cat, live a little

[Aaron]

This is frustrating. Now I really want to take a look at all the people who kept insisting NM was the vig because that was entirely stupid. Even if NM were the vig, they shouldn't have drawn attention to it and the more attention, the more likely vig is to actually feel the need to correct them and cc. I've just scum read all the pr's this game like a genius. I wish Andres hadn't claimed but I probably wouldn't have backed off today if not for it so that's frustrating.

NM's claim was very clearly a meme claim. The only thing to consider is are his reads really this bad?
I'm having doubts on Three because he was the one constantly saying NM was vig which was ridiculous and without extra information or a different wincon, shouldn't be something to draw attention to.

I don't have anything else at the moment.

I've already addressed this in past posts. Biggest takeaway though is that it literally didn't matter if NM was actually Vig or not because the situation resolves itself. Obviously the Jailkeeper had to die first, but NM would've been shot tonight and we'd know if he was telling the truth or not then.

Honestly I don't understand the logic of having doubts on me just because I chose to believe NM was telling the truth. How would that be alignment indicative? And are you suggesting I bussed Kyo instead of letting the A50 or RC wagons go through? Because uh, Mafia Doctor was definitely the most valuable role on the scum team and I easily could've saved Kyo.

The thing is that it was a clear meme claim and even if it weren't, drawing attention to it gives town zero benefits whatsoever. NM dies and flips vig. Is that what you wanted when you posted that NM would self resolve? Like it's just a bad idea.

Actually, the Mafia Watcher is the most valuable role. It can find the prs. Vig is neg utility and the shot can easily be controlled to a certain extent. Anything that is a could've is not provable.

[JacksonVirgo]

And to whoever said that RCE was a bad shot - screw you. The guy was defending Kyouko by calling them aimless Scum and joined that wagon super late when it looked inevitable. Yeah I though about shooting JacksonVirgo but I read them as Town and their reaction here makes me think they’re Town still.

It was a bad shot sorry my guy

UNVOTE:

You would have shot Jackson who is Town so haha

Yo are you not wanting me dead?

[JacksonVirgo]

Fuck me I keep scum-reading the heckin' PRs

[JacksonVirgo]

STD is... in this game?

VOTE: Save the Dragons

I am going to hold off my brain for a second, anybody have a particular viiiibe about this post?

[Dwlee99]

The vibe is that STD is my partner and I'm bussing him and that I am pretending I didn't know he was in the game so that I can get that sweet sweet towncred and endgame

[JacksonVirgo]

Going on a whim.

VOTE: Dwelee

[LicketyQuickety]

Vote Count 2.2

JacksonVirgo - 2: Almost50, Save The Dragons
Almost50 - 0
Aaron - 0
Not_Mafia - 0
Dwlee99 - 1: JacksonVirgo
AliceK - 0
ILUVYTHAN - 0
Ythan - 0
Save The Dragons - 3: Andresvmb, Three, Dwlee99
Three - 0
UglyDuck - 0
Andresvmb - 0
No Elim - 0

Not Voting - 6: Not_Mafia, AliceK, ILUVYTHAN, Ythan, UglyDuck, Aaron

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Eliminate.

Day 1 Ends in (expired on 2021-11-28 20:00:00)

Mod Notes: Prodding ILUVYTHAN, Save The Dragons, UglyDuck, and Ythan
This site sucks. I sent the 4 PMs one right after the other in separate windows and none of them went through.
Ythan is still prodded.

[Ythan]

Not if I post first

[Ythan]

I got that one.

[Dwlee99]

Going on a whim.

VOTE: Dwelee

Your whims are bad

[Dwlee99]

Y'know we should have just wagoned JV because instead we outed the vigilante and JV feels the need to just wagon town. Literally doesn't matter what alignment they are we should have yeeted them

[JacksonVirgo]

Y'know we should have just wagoned JV because instead we outed the vigilante and JV feels the need to just wagon town. Literally doesn't matter what alignment they are we should have yeeted them

1. They would not have claimed if the wagon did not pile on them, do not throw the blame onto me, you dd not have to wagon them.
2. You're deliberately shading me here because I voted you in order to discredit me and to push your image in a better light.
3. You're constantly saying you should yeet me, yet you're voting an inactive just because "oh they're in this game" just because they're being wagoned rather than you're scum-reading them opposed to someone you're obviously scum-reading, me.

You're scum bro

[JacksonVirgo]

Where is your vote. Vote me.