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[April Ludgate]

Frankly, I just feel like my town reads are far stronger than Holiday's and I've given reasons for why I am town reading certain slots, essentially this entire game bar my first reads list.

I have been keeping everyone updated on where I stand this entire game, and I believe the evolution of my reads are super transparent, something I am actively trying to do as town. let everyone know where i stand on every single slot.

I have actively tried to connect with most slots, bar a few, and have tried to look at the game from their perspective.

I'm doing a lot of town work, and I believe it shows if you look in my post.

This doesn't make Holiday scum, but if you compare who's actually narrowing down who could be scum, I have done far more than Holiday.

the 2 most familiar players with me are voting alongside me after this day phase, and the players pushing me are basically just yelling on emotion or are players not doing much like geraint, and Osuka who was just willing to compromise, but ended on my to create the counterwagons, which was fine, and caused a lot of discussion. Kind of a + move on Osuka now that I just checked their ISO.

[April Ludgate]

Like holy shit happening before everyone’s eyes the things I have said this game are being boiled into nothing but emotion when there are reasons.

Well you’ve been pretty emotional yourself soo, a bit hypocritical to say that lol.

I said nothing BUT emotion I know I’m pissed off but there’s reason to what I think BEYOND that and yet that reason is being washed away.

If I became confirmed green, who of Andante/Tracer would you find scummier?

[April Ludgate]

Kind of a + move on Osuka now that I just checked their ISO.

*+town move

[Almost50]

Claiming protective who didn’t want to go after other claimed protective and horrible townblock trying to schmooze with someone with a townread to unvote.

Just scum.

Claiming VT who wants to go after anyone who prefers to fade them over outing more roles, has horrible reads and trying to force a lim on a claimed PR.

Just scum.

[Almost50]

The problem though, is that it felt like you treated me very differently in that previous game. Like here you seem to be busy in trying to convince me, while in the other game you just called me scum.

Maybe he learned his lesson?? I mean, even monkeys can learn from previous mistakes.

[April Ludgate]

it's just an evolution of the history of our dynamic, yeah.

[Almost50]

I am a Simple Doctor

[Enchant]

So anyway, i found avatar.

[April Ludgate]

So anyway, i found avatar.

is it enchanting?

[Enchant]

Well, it's mage so probably still count.

[Almost50]

All I’ll say is two protectives with one that can defend the other privately if it’s not outed for up to three nights makes no sense and I will laugh at anyone who listens to someone townblocking with A50 and Dwlee from the grave if I’m flipped.

This was a game with a Roaming Doctor + BG (I know.. Roaming means they can only protect the BG once), but it also had a Strongman Finder with the Mafia having a ONE SHOT Strongman.

My point is sometimes the designer has some strange idea about what is "balanced". If we do have a Doctor AND a BG we could be dealing with a Strongman shot for the Mafia, OR we it could be meant for the Simple Doctor to protect VTs and the BG to die for the PRs (and they can only save ONE of them).

I also played in a game where the Mafia had a BP member with the Town having NO KILLING ROLES AT ALL.

My point is: NEVER assume you understand what the designer intended for the setup to be before you actually see the whole setup

[Enchant]

Balance?

What is this?

Also, BG with Simple Doctor is pretty believable.

[Almost50]

(Sorry for this fluff btw, I feel like a little socializing is fine as long as it doesn't take over the thread.)

Hint received ..

Hint processed..

Hint ignored..

[Almost50]

In Anime Upick, I was actively fighting with my scum partner, and had DEB as my other partner

Translation: The Scum team was of TWO members.

[Tracer.Bullet]

But if Jeff is voting Holiday then i guess it doesn’t matter too much in the end anyways. So just cross fingers and hope it could be scum?

Just vote April and give Jeff a choice

otherwise Jeff can have the excuse that he had no choice but to vote for Holiday since he couldn't hammer April.

[Tracer.Bullet]

In Anime Upick, I was actively fighting with my scum partner, and had DEB as my other partner

Translation: The Scum team was of TWO members.

Well in the post game Flavor Leaf said he didn't have any teammates

[NorwegianboyEE]

But if Jeff is voting Holiday then i guess it doesn’t matter too much in the end anyways. So just cross fingers and hope it could be scum?

Just vote April and give Jeff a choice

otherwise Jeff can have the excuse that he had no choice but to vote for Holiday since he couldn't hammer April.

Hm, that’s persuasive.

[Almost50]

but i get paranoid of a50 here and there, but he's been defending me, and i really dont know if he would do that as scum. I've caught him out when he was scum, and i was town reading him, and flipped on him, so i just cant see him trying that route as scum.

Maybe I'm aware that flipping Town you on D1 is bad for scum!me?

[Almost50]

I mean, logically speaking.. we mislim the VT and shoot the Doctor, and if BG is on them then we get them on N2 anyway. Right??

[Almost50]

Dwlee99
NorwegianBoyEE
Something_Smart

Almost50
Enchant
Hella Jeff

T3

geraintm
osuka

Holiday
Andante
Tracer.Bullet


no order between tiers, i also dont think that the bottom 3 is the exact team, but there's scum in the pool.

Better. Now if you could switch me with T3 there I'd be much obliged. I like to mediate between the reds and greens

[Tracer.Bullet]

Dwlee99

NorwegianBoyEE

Something_Smart

Almost50
Enchant

Hella Jeff

T3

geraintm
osuka

Holiday
Andante
Tracer.Bullet

no order between tiers, i also dont think that the bottom 3 is the exact team, but there's scum in the pool.

Voting for April

Voting for Holiday

What an amazing coincidence.

Every player who is voting For April is being scumread

Every player who is helping April kill Holiday is being townread.

clap clap clap

SUCH A REAL READ LIST GUYS

VERY REAL

[Almost50]

Did i pick an 5 star difficulty game totally by accident.

[Tracer.Bullet]

so he's not sure if Holiday is scum

but he's sure every scum player is voting for april over holiday

and not a single scum player is helping him kill town holiday

yup

amazing reads

[Almost50]

Also, if you are town thinking I am scum, it doesn't even make sense to be upset because if I were scum, that would be exactly what I'm supposed to do.

If you flip town, all of that will be noted and the game will continue and adapt.

Here's what I think: Holiday is Scum upset because she was caught for the wrong reasons. I don't even know why anyone TRs her reaction post-fake-hammer when virtually EVERY BLOODY PLAYER worth their salt would have checked to see if they were hammered for real. I may not care to check if it was someone else, but if it was me I'd sure as hell double check for myself. (I also knew it was a fake hammer because >I< remembered Enchant was voting there already. Now what does it tell you that the 53 y.o. monkey remembered it??)

[Almost50]

Like this doesn’t feel like posts scum would make. Cus they seem just annoyed, and not actually trying to survive.

You obviously haven't played with Maria R before.