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[T3]

Since its already claimed I'm happy to answer anything before i do paraphrase it. Mollie seems to not want to talk to me at all within it anymore.
I think for a scum mollie they couldnt take the pressure of needing to towntell in both and just lashed out to make an excuse to a)do the anti town thing of claiming the hood and b) be able to shade me for lots of words.

All in all though i know IV is likely flipping scum and i dont kind just policying mollie after Since it seems like they would basically toss the game in late game if they are town.

I dislike the tone of this post. Perhaps because it comes off as aggressive.

[T3]

im almost wondering if you were trying to fish for the status of me and andres's neighborhood? like before you jumped to conclusions and assumed i claimed our neighborhood 100% and came at me it was pretty unclear if there's a neighborhood between us？and now after youve forced all this discussion it's probably less likely than normal that we share a hood

really

[T3]

okay so gamma signs with justice every time? Is that how I tell you two apart?

that's how I intend this to work, yeah

-Justice

ookay thanks so I will assume any non signed post is koba then. And unrelatedly I’m aware activity isn’t really that AI for you

So whats scummy from me then?
Where did you get the idea that activity isn't AI for me - we havent played together - but ive spectated 1 game where you were scum and replaced into 1 after youve already flipped scum.
So whats up?

i was talking to gamma in that post and ive played with both scum and town gamma - he was lurky and active as both alignments at various times. that's all im saying

im voting your slot rn bc i can tbh and i don't really have any read on you rn despite how much you've posted already. your insistence on me playing to my scum meta is rly weird too and having a confident read on me at this stage is bizarre especially when it's wrong

Ok lets approach this differently - why do you think you're *not* playing to scum.meta?

Early confidence is very normal for me btw - right or wrong.

nono

nonononono

the burden of proof is on YOU, to prove that IV is playing to their scum meta since YOU are the one who made the accusation.

You are not even trying to sort them, you are deflecting - one might say, "dodging" even - hey here is an example of the dodging that you have been looking for all game!

Why is that scummy?
like I get that it's scummy in theory

[pirate mollie]

I just said why I'm voting you: you're twisting the events of my last scumgame against you to fit your narrative. That doesn't preclude me from trying to reason with you on the points you're bringing against koba. I would like if you engaged the bit I'm calling out as false.

-Justice

How am I twisting the events? A50 is the one who said that was your scum meta. I believed him because I have seen you do that too, I just didn't put it together. I can even pull up the post where he said that if you want.

out of game talk

: I apologize for my part in that drama. However do you notice rule in this particular game, "When someone asks you to stop, you stop."? I wish every game had that rule. Because I asked A50 to plz stop with the belittling and petty insults 4 times and all he did was escalate. Mastina wasn't around and I lost my temper, because I am firmly in the camp that when someone says stop, we should stop. Period. He was bullying RR, me and he tried to dismiss Dwelee's gender identity. It wasn't until Mastina went and reported all of his problematic posts that he stopped.

My playstyle has changed (not sure if you have noticed). Taking an almost 2 year break from this site and moving away from the people who ran it at the time, has been very very very good to me. And the site has changed too, it is a much safer space than it used to be. I no longer think that bullying the bullies is the best way to deal with them but sometimes I slip up.

[HoldenGolden]

I drove for 6 hours nearly straight. Might not post tonight. Depends on shower.

[pirate mollie]

nono

nonononono

the burden of proof is on YOU, to prove that IV is playing to their scum meta since YOU are the one who made the accusation.

You are not even trying to sort them, you are deflecting - one might say, "dodging" even - hey here is an example of the dodging that you have been looking for all game!

Why is that scummy?
like I get that it's scummy in theory

Because a common scum tactic is to deflect onto the other person and put them on the defense. It is hard to play the game on the defense, it takes up your time that can be better used for scumhunting and almost always, some townie will jump on it. It comes from the same mindset as OMGUS - a scum one.

Anyway it would be really cool to hear from other players, there is enough content in the thread to form a baseline for reads. Also a vc would be nice.

[Wright and Justice]

Mollie thats literally what youre trying to do to us, do you not underfunded that youre a massive hypocrite?

Why is it townie when mollie does it but when koba does it its scummy?(even though half your accusations are false)

[pirate mollie]

Mollie thats literally what youre trying to do to us, do you not underfunded that youre a massive hypocrite?

Why is it townie when mollie does it but when koba does it its scummy?(even though half your accusations are false)

Show me where I deflected.

[Wright and Justice]

You wont engage with us becsuse im smart enough as a player to dissect bad arguments and that kills your push against me if you acknowledge my points

Your summary of the hood is dishonestly framed - as you *yourself* avoided answering the question and never evem asked us back and just assumee we were scummy for not sharing back. This is deranged as hell for a towny. You dont interact with people like that. If you're town here - then fuckint stop ruining the game thread with this projection because its jot helpful
Yes i think theres a chance youre a townie just tossing the game over your own ego. Just own up to it if you are because its not fucking healthy for a solvestate.

If im scum here - how are you gonna find my partner? Js. You haven't even looked to solve outside of me

[Wright and Justice]

I never asked if you knew people from the playerlist bfw - thats an outright lie. I asked what your planned approach was to people you did know.

[Wright and Justice]

Reading comprehension goes a long way

[Wright and Justice]

Paraphrase what post 5, the question you think is a scumclaim, says.
Your whole case is predicated on an incorrect interpretation of a question i posed to you and you refuse to humble yourself.

[Wright and Justice]

(In the hood)

[pirate mollie]

You wont engage with us becsuse im smart enough as a player to dissect bad arguments and that kills your push against me if you acknowledge my points

Your summary of the hood is dishonestly framed - as you *yourself* avoided answering the question and never evem asked us back and just assumee we were scummy for not sharing back. This is deranged as hell for a towny. You dont interact with people like that. If you're town here - then fuckint stop ruining the game thread with this projection because its jot helpful
Yes i think theres a chance youre a townie just tossing the game over your own ego. Just own up to it if you are because its not fucking healthy for a solvestate.

If im scum here - how are you gonna find my partner? Js. You haven't even looked to solve outside of me

re: "deranged" - stop gaslighting.

And that is the only response that this post deserves.

[pirate mollie]

I never asked if you knew people from the playerlist bfw - thats an outright lie. I asked what your planned approach was to people you did know.

Dude, you directly asked me about the playerlist and I answered. I didn't feel comfortable with the question about how I planned on scumhunting because I am not going to sit there and tell scum how I do that. I did not know your alignment at that point and by the time I caught up in the thread, I was hard scumreading you.

You are the one who came into the thread and tried to discredit me by saying that I was scum reading you because I disagreed on the game mechanics when you know good and well that is not why.

This is why if I end up scumreading my neighbor in a game I stop talking to them, because all they do is run to the thread and discredit them and misrepresent. Which is what you did.

And you trying to make this about my ego constitutes as a personal attack, and I am asking you to plz stop.

And ftr? Your outrage is overblown and disproportionate to the situation and well - fake.

[pirate mollie]

Paraphrase what post 5, the question you think is a scumclaim, says.
Your whole case is predicated on an incorrect interpretation of a question i posed to you and you refuse to humble yourself.

You know what?

Your own hydra partner said that your posts were bad. So I don't know why the fuck you are even acting this way towards me.

Your own hydra partner.

[pirate mollie]

oh yeah, BECAUSE IT'S FAKE

[Wright and Justice]

You're moving goalposts now. Nice try.

[Wright and Justice]

This game isnt the mollie show - so stop acting like it. You're ruining the gamestate and as is im fine policying you on the basis you keeo pushing lies despite having them proven wrong directly and quickly goalpost adjusting in response to some etc.

You're constantly putting my slot on the defensive and try to avoid talking about anyone else but me except to defend IV from us. Why did IV get special treatment? Oh wait you also shaded T3 townreading us.

This is not the play of a townie solving - this is the play of a townie tunneling, or a scum trying to powerwolf against a strong player.

I came into the hood strong and swinging and you interpreted that somehow as scum because either a)youre a townie whos playstyle clashes with how i play or b) you are scum who panicked seeing me in your hood being very proactive.


Give reads on others - in rhe same depth you’re putting forth on me - or die.

I wont budge my vote on you until you sort in more depth outside of me.

[Wright and Justice]

There is *no* good faith attempted in mollie and i know their town games show they are capable of it 100%

Which leads me to lean towards the feeling they are scum


Mollie, early in the game, instantly refuses to consider a world i am town and came into the game with the idea in their head that we are scum, (as in as a premeditated conclusion)

[Wright and Justice]

@other players please ignore mollie except to ask questions on their progression - they are a distraction and we should be looking at other parts of the game.

VOTE: alice

My vote is in spirit on mollie but id like to apply pressure elsewhere - alice what are your thoughts on the game thus far?

[Wright and Justice]

The benefit of voting elsewhere right now is that a scum mollie is trapped voting me atm. So if they hammer a town wagon i helped start it is an effective scum claim.

[Wright and Justice]

VOTE: Wright and Justice huehue

VOTE: iv
Your posts on page 4 didn’t sit quite right with me on a vibes level. Your progression on WJ also doesn’t seem good. You’re saying that you’re not an easy read, because koba said that you a dimly in your scum meta. Then, after koba makes no posts you just vote koba.
What changed?

I think we should ignore IV/andres rn. At least for d1. It will be more clear later if they are town.

[pirate mollie]

This game isnt the mollie show - so stop acting like it. You're ruining the gamestate and as is im fine policying you on the basis you keeo pushing lies despite having them proven wrong directly and quickly goalpost adjusting in response to some etc.

One player that used to play on here years, Especially The Lies, used to always say this when they were caught scum. I don't she ever understood how much I respected her as a player.

You keep trying to make my scumread on you as some sort of character flaw that I have while addressing any of the logical points that I make. That's scummy to me.

What lies are you saying that I am pushing and that you are disproving them? I mean am shifting the goalposts or outright lying? Because it can't be both. Either you think that I am making points but moving the goalposts or that I am not making any points at all.

which is it

[pirate mollie]

There is *no* good faith attempted in mollie and i know their town games show they are capable of it 100%

Which leads me to lean towards the feeling they are scum


Mollie, early in the game, instantly refuses to consider a world i am town and came into the game with the idea in their head that we are scum, (as in as a premeditated conclusion)

More cog-dis.

Am I scum or confbiased town? I can't be both.