Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[Dwlee99]

I bet t3 rolled scum in all of the games

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: House

?

If a50 is scum here I'm astounded

[Dwlee99]

Game 3 @dunn

[Dwlee99]

Unless the Hargreaves thing is completely made up I'm pretty sure that has to confirm a50 as mason to the mafia, so why isn't he dead?

[Dwlee99]

Unless the Hargreaves thing is completely made up I'm pretty sure that has to confirm a50 as mason to the mafia, so why isn't he dead?

Because he can still talk even if they shoot him, being alive in 2 other games

Aren't you one of the four he called out?

[Dwlee99]

Unless the Hargreaves thing is completely made up I'm pretty sure that has to confirm a50 as mason to the mafia, so why isn't he dead?

Because he can still talk even if they shoot him, being alive in 2 other games

Even so, they still have to pick a target or they forfeit their kill for the day, no?

They can kill multiple times in a day according to role pm

[Dwlee99]

A50 I don't understand why you're convinced dunn is the fourth one from no posts

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: RCE
VOTE: RR
Peeking in just for this

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Meg
Feel like this is scum if not mason, and a50 posts make them seem not mason

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Dunn
VOTE: Mega
Unless mega is a game ending jester I think they're just optimal lim in game two? Although, eliminating the roleblocker from A would suck

[Dwlee99]

Idk I think they're scum though

[Dwlee99]

My guess for last scum in C is Mastina or Dwlee.

I'd be much better at mason hunting than whatever the scum team is doing right now

[Dwlee99]

I mean for one I would have just shot a50 sooner, two, there's a couple people that would be dead right now that aren't

[Dwlee99]

Also Dwlee scum in either 1 or 2.

No

[Dwlee99]

Mega's claim there is very scummy for both games if that's what you're basing this off of

[Dwlee99]

I already voted dunn, silly

[Dwlee99]

I mean really we should just try to be getting as many through as we can before scum find the three masons, of which anyone paying attention to the thread would have found

[Dwlee99]

Oh that reminds me that a50 can direct our votes even though he is dead, so we don't have to risk masons outing themselves to say who we should vote

[Dwlee99]

Why not follow A50's hunch? Ircher could be mason

[Dwlee99]

Is one more hammer

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Ircher
VOTE: Meg

[Dwlee99]

Let's try to chain lims just in case

VOTE: Mastina
VOTE: Meg
?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Mastina
VOTE: Meg
Well I was right we shouldn't be killing people that could have been masons over confirmed not masons (like who a50 wants to Lim!!)

[Dwlee99]

A50 why not Mastina? I thought your push on her meant she wasn't a mason

[Dwlee99]

Masontina

[Dwlee99]

Hi y'all, we are one mason outing from being potentially in big Doo Doo

[Dwlee99]

I stg a50 if mastina is scum .—.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: t3
stg = swear to god

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Mastina

ITS OBVIOUSLY NOT ME

[Dwlee99]

I voted house over RCE

I voted Meg early

I can't remember the third scum that's how townie I am

[Dwlee99]

A50 summarize the mason/mafia PT

[Dwlee99]

VTs are more valuable than masons right now and so I refuse to self-harmed because I can't be shot by scum, I'd have to be limmed

[Dwlee99]

Then vote MASTINA LIKE I SAID TO MULTIPLE LIMS AGO

[Dwlee99]

What do you mean you don't know? Do we lim Dwlee > mastina > T3?? Or do we go Dwlee > T3 > mastina? Cuz -if I understand correct- these are the options you have, because both Chloe and CT (!) are Masons to you.

Why should we lim me first. I'm the most townie of the list by far

[Dwlee99]

I think it is mastina

[Dwlee99]

Can we vote mastina please

[Dwlee99]

I feel it in my BONES

[Dwlee99]

Cheeky + T3 + Amy vote mastina

[Dwlee99]

VOTE MASTINA

[Dwlee99]

Well it isn't me

[Dwlee99]

We should kill mastina

[Dwlee99]

CHOO CHOO Amy lezgo

[Dwlee99]

What about Dunn

Wait is Dunn alive in that game

[Dwlee99]

Are we still flipping t3?

[Dwlee99]

Flip mastina then t3?

[Dwlee99]

Amy/t3, vote mastina

[Dwlee99]

I've figured out the third mason, it would be 3p if I was scum rn

[Dwlee99]

We just need a decision on someone we do not know is pure to rise victorious prior to day murders at this point.

Let's solidify anywhere.

Can you confirm mastina isn't?

[Dwlee99]

Who would what

[Dwlee99]

Okay well we kill mastina cause I said so

[Dwlee99]

Who would what

Are you reading?? It was you who asked me to summarize that PT!!

SUGGEST WE OUT OUR MAINS

Oh that's what you mean, there was also the "shoot t3/I shot dwlee" thing you could have been talking about

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee I see through your dumb tells.

I'm very obviously town smh

[Dwlee99]

I also know I'm fine to make it clear I'm VT now that there was a claimed shot against me, so that's why I'm posting more than before. Wanted to make it seem like I was mason to draw a shot (which worked)

[Dwlee99]

T3 you're throwing if you're town wtf

[Dwlee99]

My flip would literally lose the game if the last scum isn't dense enough to not know who the third mason is

[Dwlee99]

T3 try to read me without counting how many times I've voted as terrible meta challenge

[Dwlee99]

I will go t3 or mastina, idc

[Dwlee99]

No it's mastina, I care again

[Dwlee99]

Cheeky vote mastina challenge .—.

[Dwlee99]

Hammer it t3

[Dwlee99]

Why aren't Amy or t3 hammering this I'm mald mald mald

[Dwlee99]

I'm not paying attention in OS cause I want to be around in case we need to speed lim someone after this. Pls

[Dwlee99]

What happened to limming T3? There never was a hammer.

Eh scum!t3 probably hammers here and goes for convincing me it's Amy next phase

[Dwlee99]

because t3 thinks you're scum

Okay but cheeky + Chloe are endorsing the mastina lim, as is a50, and I was appointed a town leader by a50

[Dwlee99]

Big toe

[Dwlee99]

It was the fourth vote

Still not me t3

[Dwlee99]

Here is the thing, if it was me, why would I not have shot the masons here? Why would there be a post in the mason/mafia PT about tying to shoot me?

[Dwlee99]

Literally I know which one of you and Amy is the mason so the game is just over if I'm scum here soooo

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: t3

[Dwlee99]

Okay so

[Dwlee99]

WAS IT T3

[Dwlee99]

I stg if I threw this, fuck

[Dwlee99]

WAS IT T3

NO IT WASN'T

I was about to vote Amy smh

[Dwlee99]

Okay so if we voted Amy fast enough we win

Sorry

[Dwlee99]

Wait did Amy shoot the right person

[Dwlee99]

Who tf is it, y'all know a win con was reached right

[Dwlee99]

HAHAHAHABA LET'S GO

[Dwlee99]

I WAS DIEGO LOLOL

[Dwlee99]

I am trying so hard to not burst out laughing LOLOL

[Dwlee99]

YOU WERE OBVIOUSLY DIEGO BUT THEN YOU CLAIMED VT AND I GOT SO PARANOID

HAHAHAHAHA

[Dwlee99]

Come on, meg doesn't use Shakespearean English ???

[Dwlee99]

Anyway,

VOTE: Mastina

I agree with ircher bigly

[Dwlee99]

I KNEW BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T END YOUR SENTENCES WITH PERIODS

BRUH

AND YOU STILL SHOT AMY

[Dwlee99]

Should have voted you when someone asked if I was on mushrooms when saying I thought you were a mason

[Dwlee99]

I need a breather

Be back later

That was so funny omg

[Dwlee99]

I WAS DIEGO LOLOL

I KNOW. I played along your plan. I ALSO GOT THREE SCUMS (and T3 over mastina) so...

You did such a good job. When did you realize I was Diego???

[Dwlee99]

dwlee now you're obligated to post in our chess game

I'm so bad at remembering to post in there oopsie

[Dwlee99]

Should have voted you when someone asked if I was on mushrooms when saying I thought you were a mason

LMFAO I have to break character for this

I WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED YOU IF YOU WERE ON SHROOMS

[Dwlee99]

Fuck off, Dwlee.

No you? We won game 3...

[Dwlee99]

Love getting cursed at for... winning

[Dwlee99]

What is good
VOTE: Meg
This an option?

[Dwlee99]

What is good
VOTE: Meg
This an option?

This feels like I'm on the right track with these two ^.^

That Meg is scum?

[Dwlee99]

When Meg flips scum in both will I be exonerated then

[Dwlee99]

Poggies let's flip meg

[Dwlee99]

Bruh why was meg so scummy

[Dwlee99]

I mean maybe I'm dense but that didn't seem like a joke to me except maybe the jester claim but it was a theme. And simple roleblocker isn't a "troll role" like some people were saying. Her play was extremely scummy

[Dwlee99]

What is good
VOTE: Meg
This an option?

I don’t like this, it actually looks worse than a straight up naked vote. And what does the second part even mean?

I was asking if it was an existing wagon

[Dwlee99]

What?

[Dwlee99]

Are you accusing me of TMI on her being town AFTER she flipped rn

[Dwlee99]

Are you accusing me of TMI on her being town AFTER she flipped rn

Yes right now and all the way up until now.

You realize I only questioned how she was scummy once I opened both the spoilers and saw she was town in both games? How is that TMI when I'm literally reading the mods posts?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Dunn
VOTE: Mega
Unless mega is a game ending jester I think they're just optimal lim in game two? Although, eliminating the roleblocker from A would suck

I was thinking if MegA townsides it might be worth keeping them around, that role is banging.

Was this a test to see if I remembered you also believing it

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Dunn
VOTE: Mega
Unless mega is a game ending jester I think they're just optimal lim in game two? Although, eliminating the roleblocker from A would suck

I was thinking if MegA townsides it might be worth keeping them around, that role is banging.

Was this a test to see if I remembered you also believing it

I didn't immediately order MegA's execution as a 3p and entertained keeping her around if she was serious. So clearly I know nothing about her alignment whereas your reaction was based on her being town or non scum.

A serious 3p claim should always be limmed, why do you not agree?

[Dwlee99]

As for Dwelee, I would like to know why they believed the claim.

Jesters that aren't game ending and don't have consequences should always be limmed, as they can soak night actions or lose the game for us in ELO by self-voting. If I like spent some time thinking about it more maybe I'd have processed it as a joke but I was mostly playing game 3 and devoting all of my mental energy there instead so I read that and was like "??? Okay then"

[Dwlee99]

Survivor is kind of different cause it can win with town, but anything like jester or sk should be eliminated over risking an elimination elsewhere if outed. In a recent game with a possibility of a jester we agreed jester should just claim and we would lim them cause it was optimal

[Dwlee99]

It was non game-ending which is what I mentioned in my thing about limming Meg. The roleblocker claim I just thought was scummy because why would you randomly claim a power role. It felt like trying to diffuse the pressure on their slot asap

[Dwlee99]

No. Not all third parties are self-aligned. They should be limmed when it's in our best interest which is not always immediately. Scum want us to waste a lim on 3rd parties

I said this tho

[Dwlee99]

I agree it's not TMI, but it does have that characteristic of "Well, it's their fault they got limmed!" and I'm inclined to believe that attitude comes from scum more often than town. (Exceptions are when the player in question was being jerk to everyone, but that's clearly not the case here.)

I disagree cause I frequently feel this way when someone is extremely scummy, and like two other people expressed similar sentiments to me

[Dwlee99]

Have you asked me questions?

[Dwlee99]

Or like, said other things TO me, cause you're talking about me but not to me

[Dwlee99]

I cannot tell if you're uninterested or defensive or something else.

I have expressed contentment at you flipping in one game as well as combated someone who has accused you of TMI in the same vein.

I would've expected some type of reaction from you by now that is beyond

"do you have a question, Lady?"

- is this untrue?

And I still do not follow the logic of eliminating a jester, much less believing a jester would true claim as that is counterintuitive to their wincon.

Posting from a gym after playing three hours of volleyball, which option is thst

[Dwlee99]

Non game-ending jester true claiming is to win con as it is optimal for town to Lim them

I haven't really paid attention to what you're saying cause when I'm here I've been responding to people who are seeing things to me, not about me

[Dwlee99]

A50 town both
Okay that's as far as I've gotten. I feel like I need to properly reset after game 3 has ended because I still have all the vibes from there stuck in my head

[Dwlee99]

RR town

[Dwlee99]

it is optimal for town to Lim them

How?

Are you scum

I already answered this though: jesters are self-aligned and count against town majority and reduce days to ELO because jester will self-vote and lose it for us. They also could soak night actions or if we don't lim them we could out a power role

[Dwlee99]

how is your day going

[Dwlee99]

A50 town both
Okay that's as far as I've gotten. I feel like I need to properly reset after game 3 has ended because I still have all the vibes from there stuck in my head

RR town

Do you tr RR in both games because you didn’t specify like you did with A50?

Oh I missed this yes

[Dwlee99]

how is your day going

Quite fine. Trying to murder scoundrels, doll. Want to assist?

Yea sure

[Dwlee99]

Oh I missed that

I'm not scum, cheeky could be sure

[Dwlee99]

Of course she could, but do you think she does?

Can we wait for day start for this

[Dwlee99]

You know you can hide active status right

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: t3

[Dwlee99]

T3 is always scummy and I want to pressure him to see how he responds cause I'm trying to learn how to read him

[Dwlee99]

Mastina you're angleshooting very hard and I think it is in poor taste regardless of your alignment here

[Dwlee99]

I am, how one would say, "tilted."

The repeated misuse of "clear" in the current site meta is frustrating.

same

[Dwlee99]

Yea my antics of saying that no matter what Mastina's alignment is she is playing the game in an unfun and angleshooty way. "Antics"

[Dwlee99]

Mastina vote Dwlee, don't engage in their antics.

Do you not think T3 should be wagoned?

No, I think they're only scum in one game since they have reverted closers to their town meta since their scum flip. Do you have reason to suspect them?

This is so bad

T3 has hardly even posted since his game 3 flip

[Dwlee99]

Mastina vote Dwlee, don't engage in their antics.

Do you not think T3 should be wagoned?

No, I think they're only scum in one game since they have reverted closers to their town meta since their scum flip. Do you have reason to suspect them?

This is so bad

T3 has hardly even posted since his game 3 flip

Exactly and what has T3 done before he flipped scum in G3?

He posted

Is your point literally that T3 doesn't post as town but does as scum

Cause I'm pretty sure I've seen both

And this is why meta is awful

[Dwlee99]

Not sure what I'm supposed to get from those quotes

[Dwlee99]

T3 is always scummy and I want to pressure him to see how he responds cause I'm trying to learn how to read him

We both know he will beg not to be eliminated.

But seriously, is that all you have against him?

Remember when I said t3 is probably scum in all the games at the beginning

I think I was onto something

[Dwlee99]

I don't get how I'm clashing though so and you're also saying meta is trash and using meta in the same breath. Lady played in the last iteration of the triple game so their confusion is meh Imo.

This happens every single game I stg

someone uses meta

I go "meta is bad, in part cause it reduces their play to something that they have done as both town and scum so isn't an accurate predictor of their behavior"

and then someone goes "wow dwlee is using meta now???"

T3 can back me up on this

[Dwlee99]

That hasn't happened to you though? Relevance, your honour.

was 1414 not to me?

[Dwlee99]

I saw meta and got too eager

[Dwlee99]

Wait so shouldn't we find scum on wagon?

Also demon lord should claim if town

[Dwlee99]

Game is autowin if DL town

[Dwlee99]

My role is confirmable, I'm not scum

[Dwlee99]

Look at VC, I'm E-8 cause I loverized myself

[Dwlee99]

How would 3P work with this, cause if DL was 3P the math still works to me being town I think

[Dwlee99]

3p -> scum -> town -> scum -> town?

[Dwlee99]

I don't think we can vote Demon Lord according to the way vote count is set-up

[Dwlee99]

A50 I already showed the switches, if demon lord isn't town they have to be 3p cause I know my alignment

[Dwlee99]

Okay here's the deal. I am town in A, but scum in B, BUT my role is I'm a haterizer / loverizer combo so if I live the night I'll be able to haterize myself tonight and this will mean I need one less vote to be flipped tomorrow, meaning I can be hammered in B without dying in A. As it stands right now, I don't think it is possible to only lim me in B because no one is alive in A but not in B. But if we wait a day I CAN be limmed in B and not A

[Dwlee99]

Ye I'm fine with that option too. But the loverize haterize only last a day so tomorrow I can take one less to lim

[Dwlee99]

Aren't all the roles independent of game?
So Dwlee is lying?

Is this a town slip...

[Dwlee99]

Okay here's the deal. I am town in A, but scum in B, BUT my role is I'm a haterizer / loverizer combo so if I live the night I'll be able to haterize myself tonight and this will mean I need one less vote to be flipped tomorrow, meaning I can be hammered in B without dying in A. As it stands right now, I don't think it is possible to only lim me in B because no one is alive in A but not in B. But if we wait a day I CAN be limmed in B and not A

1) Why are you making this trade?
2) VOTE: Radical Rat

No point getting limmed in both when that just means we are even harder losing A

[Dwlee99]

I think mastina is the demon lord

[Dwlee99]

@Dwlee: How do you read Ircher

in game 1

?

I don't

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Ircher

[Dwlee99]

I am town in game 1 ftr

[Dwlee99]

Forbid mafia exist in {Amy/Almost50/mastina/Cheeky} or scoundrels will murder all purity in at least one universe

I am town in game 1 ftr

Yes but if Mafia can simply lolhammer after Game 1 elimination occurs, how can town prevent it?

Shruggers

[Dwlee99]

A is so fucked wow

[Dwlee99]

6-3 isn't unwinnable though

[Dwlee99]

I am killing cheekyteeky in game B tonight and NO ONE CAN STOP ME

[Dwlee99]

House also did hammer with just a pop-in and no claim

[Dwlee99]

I'm down to vote House before game 2 opens. We should've just flipped Dwlee in both ffs.

But I'm town in 1

[Dwlee99]

Ircher will communicate in game through me it's alright

[Dwlee99]

1

[Dwlee99]

plot twist: I'm town in B

[Dwlee99]

Mastina's post is wrong because it's gambler's fallacy

[Dwlee99]

Idk probably don't try rereading imo

[Dwlee99]

I am going to tear through the game A scum team, they will feel my power

[Dwlee99]

We should mass claim in game 1

I've had trouble separating game B TMI from game A reads which is why it's been rough for me to figure out game A

[Dwlee99]

Also cheeky's reads bad and think I may have been onto something with thinking they're scum game A

[Dwlee99]

Also cheeky's reads bad and think I may have been onto something with thinking they're scum game A

Nice try Dwlee. I never kill mastina and Amy here lol.

Wdym nice try
What am I trying

[Dwlee99]

Metabad

[Dwlee99]

Y'all I'm gonna preempt whatever T3 is gonna say with: DO NOT QUICKLY REACT TO ANYTHING HE SAYS

He is extremely skilled at fake claims

[Dwlee99]

actually nah there's no point in me not giving the bare minimum of what's happening
i am an investigative with soft innos on dunn and chloe

If this is true then the scum team is just RR/Cheeky/Titus

But I don't quite believe you

[Dwlee99]

T3 we both know you're good at fake claiming. You need to out the nature of your investigation asap

[Dwlee99]

homie you cannot go "these crumbs suffice" me

[Dwlee99]

Not in this game but in general

Dude will pull crumbs out of his behind like it's nothing

[Dwlee99]

He once hard-pocketed me with a combined detective/neighborizer fake claim when he was a traitor combined rolecop/neigborizer. Luckily his scum team shot him lol

[Dwlee99]

I would never lie in a mafia game

[Dwlee99]

Ircher was a VT in game b lol

[Dwlee99]

VT in both

[Dwlee99]

He claimed something else this game?

[Dwlee99]

Meh it's not like unbelievable

not really a soft clear other than "these three people I checked probably aren't ALL scum together" so

[Dwlee99]

I'm VT btw

[Dwlee99]

I don't think I've claimed beyond "town"

[Dwlee99]

Has everyone claimed in A

[Dwlee99]

*jeopardy music waiting for claims*

[Dwlee99]

House is titus scum in A

[Dwlee99]

Did anyone else notice Titus voted in ELO btw and it's been sitting there?

[Dwlee99]

I'm here ftr idk cheeky said something about that

[Dwlee99]

Radical Rat
Dunnstral
Titus
CheekyTeeky
Lady Chloe

The scum poolTM

Maybe I'd remove... Cheeky? From this?

Radical Rat
Dunnstral
Titus
Lady Chloe

????

[Dwlee99]

Game A is so hard ugh

[Dwlee99]

wouldn't you be in it if they weren't

[Dwlee99]

I meant like she'd have to be scum fmpov

[Dwlee99]

But there are 4 people in my list

If I remove LC that means 3 and there are 3 scum?

[Dwlee99]

But there are 4 people in my list

If I remove LC that means 3 and there are 3 scum?

If you're so arrogant as to believe that only one of your reads can be wrong, perhaps.

I mean I can only be wrong about townreading 2 people, and I don't think I'm wrong on t3

[Dwlee99]

Let's finish it, if T3, Dwlee and I vote Dunn we can be dunn with this game.

You townread me?

[Dwlee99]

Ominous

[Dwlee99]

Welp wasn't me who voted wrong

Was gonna sheep house on Titus if there wasn't a quickhammer

I also knew cheeky was scum in A wtf

[Dwlee99]

Thank you for hosting! I really enjoyed this game. Also sorry about my balance complaints about the mini theme in the scum PT. It's a lot more balanced knowing there is an SK and not a survivor lol

[Dwlee99]

Yea I think cause we had two 1v1s and had to win both to win which felt kinda bad. I think we could have prevented me getting guiltied if I took into account the wagon role more (I was kinda just lazy) but was really shocked by the UB narrowing the poe that hard.