Open 838 – ISITMAINAC [Endgame]

[Scorpious]

Feel like I need to say this. Scorpious, I know that you're the highest poster. However, I would like to say that my highest townread is Nathann. Literally, every post he's made has shown high solving intent. He's been trying to sort everybody and has been acting in a progressive manner. I know this might seem pockety but I am saying this genuinely. I don't care, Nathann, if you don't TR me but I would like to point out how much I am liking your actions.

See I'm highest poster now, even though I wrote a lot of fluff.

So this was just fluff to prove a point. Your last block of posts are horrible.

[Scorpious]

I don’t know why that happened

[Scorpious]

Ugh, 400 posted in like mini text, then of course I comment on it and it fixes itself.. disregard 401 please.

[Scorpious]

VOTE: ADSE

Are we going to get an explanation?

[Scorpious]

Skimmed the game. I have a handful of weak-ish townreads and exactly one scumread.

VOTE: RH9

What did you skim to get exactly one scat read?

[Three]

And Three, how's reading going? I notice that you're online but you haven't posted so I am assuming that you are reading.

Yes, I've been reading. I've been at work so it's been slow catching up, I'm just about done now.

[Scorpious]

And Three, how's reading going? I notice that you're online but you haven't posted so I am assuming that you are reading.

Yes, I've been reading. I've been at work so it's been slow catching up, I'm just about done now.

Are you reading critically or just skimming?

[Three]

Skimmed the game. I have a handful of weak-ish townreads and exactly one scumread.

VOTE: RH9

What did you skim to get exactly one scat read?

[RH9]

And Three, how's reading going? I notice that you're online but you haven't posted so I am assuming that you are reading.

Yes, I've been reading. I've been at work so it's been slow catching up, I'm just about done now.

Take your time.

[Scorpious]

Skimmed the game. I have a handful of weak-ish townreads and exactly one scumread.

VOTE: RH9

What did you skim to get exactly one scat read?

I’m not allowed to reference the slimy buildup on soap by it’s true name, so I’ve been experimenting with other ways to refer to it.

You said your skimming yield exactly 1 read of an evil doer. What was it that you skimmed that led you there?

[Three]

And Three, how's reading going? I notice that you're online but you haven't posted so I am assuming that you are reading.

Yes, I've been reading. I've been at work so it's been slow catching up, I'm just about done now.

Are you reading critically or just skimming?

I've had to rewrite my responses to both you and RH9 now because you've both asked questions that deserve sarcastic responses.

Yes I'm reading critically. The first six pages turned my brain to mush though. Is there any particular reason for the boring shit fights that went down back there? I expected to see something come out of it but Strange doesn't even seem to be on anyone's radar anymore. I have them as a town lean personally, but I don't understand why the suspicion towards them dissolved so easily and with so little fanfare when they never gave a satisfying answer about why they were so focused on STD at the beginning.

[Scorpious]

Fuck, I’m getting people mixed up now.

Sorry, three..

The question about the one read That’s for jacket. I’m going to bed now

[RH9]

And Three, how's reading going? I notice that you're online but you haven't posted so I am assuming that you are reading.

I don’t like when people do this. So am Into assume you are keeping tabs on everyone like this?

I once saw Greeting do something similar here in Newboe 2082. I'll quote it for you below.

I know this is activity-based meta, but I see frogsfrogs online most of the time I'm around and they have almost three times less posts than I do. They aren't posting in any other games. What's up with that? In 221, Val89 strongly townread frogs, without really saying why.

Maybe I'm being paranoid about this, but I think it should be pointed out.

Though, the circumstances are different because frogfrogs started from the beginning of that game while Three replaced in. That's why I thought that Three was reading. Also frogsfrogs was Mafia Roleblocker, but Three is currently a nullread for me.

[Three]

Skimmed the game. I have a handful of weak-ish townreads and exactly one scumread.

VOTE: RH9

What did you skim to get exactly one scat read?

I’m not allowed to reference the slimy buildup on soap by it’s true name, so I’ve been experimenting with other ways to refer to it.

You said your skimming yield exactly 1 read of an evil doer. What was it that you skimmed that led you there?

That was Jacket, not me.

Also you're allowed to use the word scum. The L-word is the only one that got banned. Commonly used replacement words are variations of eliminate, execute, yeet, etc.

[Three]

Fuck, I’m getting people mixed up now.

Sorry, three..

The question about the one read That’s for jacket. I’m going to bed now

No worries, good night.

[Scorpious]

And Three, how's reading going? I notice that you're online but you haven't posted so I am assuming that you are reading.

Yes, I've been reading. I've been at work so it's been slow catching up, I'm just about done now.

Are you reading critically or just skimming?

I've had to rewrite my responses to both you and RH9 now because you've both asked questions that deserve sarcastic responses.

Yes I'm reading critically. The first six pages turned my brain to mush though. Is there any particular reason for the boring shit fights that went down back there? I expected to see something come out of it but Strange doesn't even seem to be on anyone's radar anymore. I have them as a town lean personally, but I don't understand why the suspicion towards them dissolved so easily and with so little fanfare when they never gave a satisfying answer about why they were so focused on STD at the beginning.

Bells go off in my head when I read “skimmed”. The fact that you are ingesting the game whole and not coming at us with a “read” from a skim makes me lean town on you and scum on Jacket.

Ok, for real, bed now.

[RH9]

Fuck, I’m getting people mixed up now.

Sorry, three..

The question about the one read That’s for jacket. I’m going to bed now

Don't worry. I once mixed up Taly and Titus, which Galron noticed. It was so embarrassing because I looked like I was trying to shade Taly.

[RH9]

And Three, how's reading going? I notice that you're online but you haven't posted so I am assuming that you are reading.

Yes, I've been reading. I've been at work so it's been slow catching up, I'm just about done now.

Are you reading critically or just skimming?

I've had to rewrite my responses to both you and RH9 now because you've both asked questions that deserve sarcastic responses.

Yes I'm reading critically. The first six pages turned my brain to mush though. Is there any particular reason for the boring shit fights that went down back there? I expected to see something come out of it but Strange doesn't even seem to be on anyone's radar anymore. I have them as a town lean personally, but I don't understand why the suspicion towards them dissolved so easily and with so little fanfare when they never gave a satisfying answer about why they were so focused on STD at the beginning.

Bells go off in my head when I read “skimmed”. The fact that you are ingesting the game whole and not coming at us with a “read” from a skim makes me lean town on you and scum on Jacket.

Ok, for real, bed now.

That's the one thing which I partially agree with you on. We're making progress.
(For clarification, I'm talking about the townlean on Three. I did once made a read on Galron based on a skim and it turned out to actually be correct.)

[RH9]

Please elucidate, RH9.

My reaction to

Jacket

was heavily borrowed from the reaction of

Noraa

to

STD

in Open 833. But

Noraa

was a member of the groupscum and

STD

replaced into a slot which was part of the uninformed majority.

However, I'm not a member of the groupscum and hence my self-comparision to

Cook

when she was VT in Newbie 2080 with you and

Roden

.

(Now I'm starting to borrow from

Taly

and

Greeting

in regards to temporarily bolding names.)

Meta much?

Yes. I spectated Open 833 but Newbie 2080 was mentioned in a game that I spectated, Newbie 2082.

[Three]

Preconceptions from before I replaced in was that between A50 and Salsa, A50 read as more town to me so I wanted his slot. Not because of anything he did that was pro town, I just thought his posts were funny. Salsa's tone always just reads as scummy to me though. I want to see what Jacket does since I think I'll have a better chance of correctly reading him.

I'm about to head home so I'll give more detailed reads in an hour or so. But something I gotta say now is that I don't understand how some players have so many town reads. Because the more I read the more I was just like...how? So many players have scummy tones or are making accusations with nothing to back it up or are making serious votes while giving zero effort in actually getting their scum reads eliminated. It's bizarre.

[RH9]

Please elucidate, RH9.

My reaction to

Jacket

was heavily borrowed from the reaction of

Noraa

to

STD

in Open 833. But

Noraa

was a member of the groupscum and

STD

replaced into a slot which was part of the uninformed majority.

However, I'm not a member of the groupscum and hence my self-comparision to

Cook

when she was VT in Newbie 2080 with you and

Roden

.

(Now I'm starting to borrow from

Taly

and

Greeting

in regards to temporarily bolding names.)

...why did you copy the reaction of someone who was scum?

Because I realised that Town had the potential to do a similar thing. After all, if you don't act too defensive, there is nothing to be too worried about. And Noraa was acting so casually, that I thought that STD was their scum partner. This is exactly what I said. I have also quoted it below.

Imagine if Noraa and Save The Dragons are the Mafia. (At least, to me, Noraa's interaction with Save The Dragons, makes them fell Scum vs Scum.)

[Three]

And 381 was partially inspired by somebody's reaction to STD in a past game that I spectated where STD replaced in and scumread them.
(STD probably knows what I'm talking about.)

Except that that player was in a different alignment in that game to what I am in this game.
(But I remember that Roden mentioning that this sort of thing has been done, as seen in his post here, in which he mentioned Cook and T3. It was what Roden described as "just some background info on Cook's strat".)

Please elucidate, RH9.

My reaction to

Jacket

was heavily borrowed from the reaction of

Noraa

to

STD

in Open 833. But

Noraa

was a member of the groupscum and

STD

replaced into a slot which was part of the uninformed majority.

However, I'm not a member of the groupscum and hence my self-comparision to

Cook

when she was VT in Newbie 2080 with you and

Roden

.

(Now I'm starting to borrow from

Taly

and

Greeting

in regards to temporarily bolding names.)

This is also bizarre. I don't understand why you're using meta from players who aren't in this game. I don't get why you're linking the Wiki and user profiles either instead of posts that would support the point you're trying to make. It just seems...busy. Like you're trying to make it look like you're making a case with proper sources when that isn't really what's going on.

[RH9]

And 381 was partially inspired by somebody's reaction to STD in a past game that I spectated where STD replaced in and scumread them.
(STD probably knows what I'm talking about.)

Except that that player was in a different alignment in that game to what I am in this game.
(But I remember that Roden mentioning that this sort of thing has been done, as seen in his post here, in which he mentioned Cook and T3. It was what Roden described as "just some background info on Cook's strat".)

Please elucidate, RH9.

My reaction to

Jacket

was heavily borrowed from the reaction of

Noraa

to

STD

in Open 833. But

Noraa

was a member of the groupscum and

STD

replaced into a slot which was part of the uninformed majority.

However, I'm not a member of the groupscum and hence my self-comparision to

Cook

when she was VT in Newbie 2080 with you and

Roden

.

(Now I'm starting to borrow from

Taly

and

Greeting

in regards to temporarily bolding names.)

This is also bizarre. I don't understand why you're using meta from players who aren't in this game. I don't get why you're linking the Wiki and user profiles either instead of posts that would support the point you're trying to make. It just seems...busy. Like you're trying to make it look like you're making a case with proper sources when that isn't really what's going on.

I'm doing it to show why I'm acting this way. I'm borrowing from those players.

[Greeting]

The generalized gamestate take is in a game as sluggish as this one there's probably a handful of scum in the low-content slots but sorting them is impossible unless they actually start contributing it's more or less a crapshoot. There are situations where it can be active scum while town is apathetic and lurks it out, but it feels like there's a little too much discord between the active players for that to be the case.

Which one of the more inactive players do you think can be scum?
And how far have you read? I don't expect you to have read everything because you said that you skimmed. But then, who doesn't skim? I remembered that the first time that I replaced in, I skimmed and ended up with reads which are definitely one of my best. Thus, I'll take your reads as though it is 100% correct.

...you realize I'm voting you, right?

Yes. What about it?

Why is it so important that you're voting me? I have come across confbias before and it always lead to me getting townread.

Why, instead of confronting a scumread on you, are you deflecting attention?

[Greeting]

This is also bizarre. I don't understand why you're using meta from players who aren't in this game. I don't get why you're linking the Wiki and user profiles either instead of posts that would support the point you're trying to make. It just seems...busy. Like you're trying to make it look like you're making a case with proper sources when that isn't really what's going on.

What he meant in regard to me was that he's borrowing mine, and another player's, style of bolding names of players for the purpose of making a point. I don't mind this and I don't see this as odd. By this, I mean this borrowing thing in particular of course.