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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:30 am

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In post 74, fua wrote:What do you mean by carry over?
The fact that there was “reasoning” behind the vote, then the attempt at recruiting the most verbose player thus far, which was promptly ignored.

If it was just a joke vote I would have ignored it, it was the follow ups that I wanted clarification on. The vote could have been on anyone and I would still be questioning the motivations.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:32 am

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Eh. Fair enough.

What are your thoughts on the game beyond that? Any reads on players/statements besides Natalya’s?
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:44 am

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In post 71, Andante wrote:ah nice!

yeezys(1) ~ Egix96(1)
UglyDuck(1) ~ Andresvmb(2)
Scorpious(1) ~ Natalya(9)
Natalya(1) ~ Oman(2)
fua(1) ~ Scorpious(5)
Egix96(1) ~ Retti(2)
Andresvmb(1) ~ UglyDuck(1)

So these are the "haha (vote x)" people and there's way too many for that to be all town,

The people that came back and talked were Retti, Scorp, Natalya

I might TR Oman, I know what they're talking about

Leaves Egix, Andres, UglyDuck, likely at least 1 scum in them


(I know it's crazy vague, but game just started, and that's where my initial suspicious go)
I’m regards to your “bottom 3”, what is that based on, the context of this post leans toward activity. Am I interpreting this correctly?
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:46 am

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I mean, RVS, what sense does it make to vote someone and leave. isn't RVS about pressuring random people? getting some sort of random wagon going? cause 7 people with 1 vote on them is just dumb
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:46 am

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like, it's like we're trying to go no where
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:27 am

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In post 56, Natalya wrote:I have doubts that we will get something useful out of T3
Again, based on?
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:30 am

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In post 63, T3 wrote:+1
Andante comes across as very genuine and inquisitive. Her questioning of Natalya feels like a Town who wants to get the game forward, which is congruent with her earlier statements.
Natalya... idk? It's hard to separate the fluff from readable content. The one thing that stuck out to me was . From what I've seen there's a general sentiment from players who have played with me before that I'm hard to read. From this, Natalya is lean town. It's also possible that Natalya was reaction testing Scorpious, in which case she's even more towny.
Retti is a (possible) scumread. His point about Natalya in is eerily similar to reasoning I've used as scum before to justifly shade on someone immediately after RVS. In FIA WRC, another player hyped up a tone scumread on a newbie. Scum me immediately shaded that player and got an early wagon on them. The reason I say possibly, is because Retti isn't me, and this might be a legitimate tell town him uses.
Scorpious is nullscum. His reaction to Natalya's 'scumread' was bad but I want to excuse it as an older player coming back to the site and feeling out-of-place with the site meta.
I hate the timing of this post in relation to the one by Natalya.

But when I get an answer to why she singled out T3, in saying she isn’t expecting much. It may make more sense.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:32 am

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T3,

Have you played many games with Natalya?
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:35 am

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In post 37, Andante wrote:I honestly can't look at #33 being said from town like that

Did the post I referenced above change this thinking at all?
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:45 am

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I mean, so far I'm liking Natalya, not gonna lie
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:28 am

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In post 84, Andante wrote:I mean, so far I'm liking Natalya, not gonna lie
I am too, I really like that opening, even if I was the random target.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:29 am

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I am still wary of the follow up though, I hope to get an explanation
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:29 am

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In post 82, Scorpious wrote:T3,

Have you played many games with Natalya?
Probably.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:45 am

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In post 63, T3 wrote:+1
Andante comes across as very genuine and inquisitive. Her questioning of Natalya feels like a Town who wants to get the game forward, which is congruent with her earlier statements.
Natalya... idk? It's hard to separate the fluff from readable content. The one thing that stuck out to me was . From what I've seen there's a general sentiment from players who have played with me before that I'm hard to read. From this, Natalya is lean town. It's also possible that Natalya was reaction testing Scorpious, in which case she's even more towny.
Retti is a (possible) scumread. His point about Natalya in is eerily similar to reasoning I've used as scum before to justifly shade on someone immediately after RVS. In FIA WRC, another player hyped up a tone scumread on a newbie. Scum me immediately shaded that player and got an early wagon on them. The reason I say possibly, is because Retti isn't me, and this might be a legitimate tell town him uses.
Scorpious is nullscum. His reaction to Natalya's 'scumread' was bad but I want to excuse it as an older player coming back to the site and feeling out-of-place with the site meta.
Since when do you explain yourself this much?
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:49 am

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Actually, calling it now: those reads are fake, fake, fake. town!T3 just posts blunt, underexplained thought fragments while scum!T3 is way more concerned with projecting towniness and looking like he has explanations for all his reads. The reads on Natalya and Scorp are both blatant hedges as well. It's a post that's trying to look solvey but doesn't actually commit to most of its reads.

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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:52 am

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In post 67, fua wrote:I also agree with T3’s sentiments on Scorpious for now. The reaction to a scumread based on one post seems a little too defensive, but it’s not enough for me to fully scumread them at the moment.
Noting this as a blatant hedge as well, echoing T3 while keeping their vote on him.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:58 am

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In post 78, Andante wrote:I mean, RVS, what sense does it make to vote someone and leave. isn't RVS about pressuring random people? getting some sort of random wagon going? cause 7 people with 1 vote on them is just dumb
It's just there to get conversation started. It's not like there's rules for it. I think you probably just have unrealistic expectations for how active other people are going to be. Calm down, let people work into the game on their own time rather than getting worked up over nothing.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 am

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Scorpious seems Fine. Getting grumpy over getting scumread for an RVS post is an understandable reaction, if anything, don't get why people are saying it's bad. It's like how anyone responding to being pushed gets called "defensive", because they're...defending themselves. Means nothing.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:09 am

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In post 62, Oman wrote:Good morning. What an interesting start to a game. Please to be here for it.

Andante is the obvious elephant in the room, but I'm not overly concerned at this point. I know people can get really talky when they're scum but eh I'm mostly seeing enthusiasm. The response to #33 wasn't stellar, but also doesn't give me enough red flags.

If I was going to pick a direction to go now, it'd be VOTE: Natalya.
Eh, I'll bite: Why Natalya?
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 am

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In post 90, Retti wrote:
In post 67, fua wrote:I also agree with T3’s sentiments on Scorpious for now. The reaction to a scumread based on one post seems a little too defensive, but it’s not enough for me to fully scumread them at the moment.
Noting this as a blatant hedge as well, echoing T3 while keeping their vote on him.
I can agree with the sentiments of a person that I think is scum. Scum aren’t going to obviously distance or lie 100% of the time— that’s just bad play. It’s a matter of separating what’s theater from what’s bussing.

Can I not scumread both T3 and Scorp when the former has the latter as a scumread?
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:31 am

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i have some thoughts on the game but won't say them yet VOTE: scorpio
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:23 pm

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I shall also not say anything yet.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:32 pm

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In post 88, Retti wrote:
In post 63, T3 wrote:+1
Andante comes across as very genuine and inquisitive. Her questioning of Natalya feels like a Town who wants to get the game forward, which is congruent with her earlier statements.
Natalya... idk? It's hard to separate the fluff from readable content. The one thing that stuck out to me was . From what I've seen there's a general sentiment from players who have played with me before that I'm hard to read. From this, Natalya is lean town. It's also possible that Natalya was reaction testing Scorpious, in which case she's even more towny.
Retti is a (possible) scumread. His point about Natalya in is eerily similar to reasoning I've used as scum before to justifly shade on someone immediately after RVS. In FIA WRC, another player hyped up a tone scumread on a newbie. Scum me immediately shaded that player and got an early wagon on them. The reason I say possibly, is because Retti isn't me, and this might be a legitimate tell town him uses.
Scorpious is nullscum. His reaction to Natalya's 'scumread' was bad but I want to excuse it as an older player coming back to the site and feeling out-of-place with the site meta.
Since when do you explain yourself this much?
I wanted to explain my reasoning because I recently completed a game where my not explaining my reasoning led to me being unable to remember what my thought process was. This also caused some scumreads on me.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:16 pm

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In post 87, T3 wrote:
In post 82, Scorpious wrote:T3,

Have you played many games with Natalya?
Probably.
Is this sarcasm? Is it apathy? Do you not know?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:27 pm

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In post 98, Scorpious wrote:
In post 87, T3 wrote:
In post 82, Scorpious wrote:T3,

Have you played many games with Natalya?
Probably.
Is this sarcasm? Is it apathy? Do you not know?
I don't know for a fact. Natalya is an alt,
probably
of a player I've played with a lot.

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