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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:22 pm

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In post 1198, Dwlee99 wrote:The watcher is one shot so there wouldn't be a N2 result to have to makeup if I'm scum
But making up no visit is perfectly safe because of the roleblock, was my point.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:32 pm

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In post 1154, Datisi wrote:
vote count 3.03

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-12-18 16:45:00).


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Dwlee99 [1]:
Something_Smart
Something_Smart [1]:
Dwlee99

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In post 1161, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1137, DArby wrote:Yes, you did have to “prompt” me because I’m just now mentally catching up (read: me asking both Dwlee and SS obvious questions that everyone else understood. I don’t like doing that.). Not to mention, there’s only been 2 real days, and I’m not terribly useful d1 typically. The read you have against me at best is circumstantial. I stand by my original post defending myself that I should not be your push today because your argument is based in vague assumptions that don’t have concrete base. It’s in both your best interest and the best interest of town to find who you think my partner is and lim them first and see if that makes sense I’m their partner.
Ig sure the timing but i can wave away given irl stuff
But i guess the meat of my argument is the poe and, well, from my pov it would need to be ss/dwlee or iv/dwlee in order for you to not be scum, and the latter i dont really see, and the former ig i'm having a hard time with too
I’m not even saying don’t assume I’m scum I’m just saying that if your argument is that its the most easy solve i would probably reconsider it.
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:33 pm

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Fuck ignore the vc quote I forgot I added that.
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 1166, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1139, DArby wrote:
In post 1097, skitter30 wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 44, DArby wrote:VOTE: Dwlee

And we’ve gone out of RVS.
In post 65, DArby wrote:
In post 63, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 44, DArby wrote:VOTE: Dwlee

And we’ve gone out of RVS.
How?
I caught scum.
In post 78, DArby wrote:
In post 67, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 65, DArby wrote:
In post 63, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 44, DArby wrote:VOTE: Dwlee

And we’ve gone out of RVS.
How?
I caught scum.
Why
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Because
I caught them
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Trust the process.
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In post 175, skitter30 wrote:i mean there might be a process but i'm not trusting you
Well okay so:

Dwlee is too complex a player to make the initial push in in a literal way and I don’t think town them would do that.


well this is nice and anti-associative
Oh lol my entire push was a knee jerk reaction to my other Datisi game that Dwlee was kind enough to link.
can you explain this again / elaborate on this? i don't get it
Yeah so the last completed game I had w Dwlee was the scum game mentioned. Because of how soon the game ended compared to the start of this one, I was more vigilant against Dwlee because I didn’t want to lose to scum!them twice in a row.

I did it also with Koba in the arsonist game I mentioned previously as well who was scum partners with Dwlee.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:37 pm

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In post 1196, Something_Smart wrote:I have started thirteen different paragraphs with "I mean" in this day phase.

I need to mix up my verbiage a bit.
i mean so have i
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:38 pm

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In post 1170, innocentvillager wrote:i guess a hedge could make sense when you’re 2v3 meh idk, like if the high risk play goes wrong at least you have the low risk partner doing their thing

but I don’t get the vibe that Darby is like, in the loop with a lot of what’s going on in a way which makes me lean town on him
My truest town tell is constantly being out of the loop.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 1200, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1198, Dwlee99 wrote:The watcher is one shot so there wouldn't be a N2 result to have to makeup if I'm scum
But making up no visit is perfectly safe because of the roleblock, was my point.
Yeah I don’t agree that watcher is a strictly safer fakeclaim for scum
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 1205, DArby wrote:
In post 1170, innocentvillager wrote:i guess a hedge could make sense when you’re 2v3 meh idk, like if the high risk play goes wrong at least you have the low risk partner doing their thing

but I don’t get the vibe that Darby is like, in the loop with a lot of what’s going on in a way which makes me lean town on him
My truest town tell is constantly being out of the loop.
hmmmmm interesting why do you think you’re not out of the loop as scum?
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:41 pm

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In post 1174, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1164, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1159, Dwlee99 wrote:If we kill SS I'll tell you why it's darby and not me tomorrow
? well we might not kill SS today

i would rather have a good idea of what the solve is today
Well the other option is me and then the game is over so...
Oh also fmpov ik Dwlee is scum now. There’s no way they can have that confidence it’s me, not share it, and I’m town (which I know).
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:43 pm

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In post 1207, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1205, DArby wrote:
In post 1170, innocentvillager wrote:i guess a hedge could make sense when you’re 2v3 meh idk, like if the high risk play goes wrong at least you have the low risk partner doing their thing

but I don’t get the vibe that Darby is like, in the loop with a lot of what’s going on in a way which makes me lean town on him
My truest town tell is constantly being out of the loop.
hmmmmm interesting why do you think you’re not out of the loop as scum?
I have limited scum meta (one completed in a non traditional game). I can’t honestly say that I’m not out of the loop as well in scum, but I’d imagine there would be more of a plan then mindlessly aiming around?

Then again, I don’t have anything really to compare my town meta to.
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:45 pm

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In post 1185, Something_Smart wrote:Of the one-shots in this setup, 3/4 of them should act N1, yeah. But would DArby know that? I don't think he's ever played in a game with a town one-shot before.
If it counts I’ve played as a town two shot (same role as this one).
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:52 pm

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In post 1199, skitter30 wrote:Well if you watched me n1 iv is a reasonable guess, not sure you'd have been able to guess darby on me
Darby and IV couldn't have both visited you N1 fmpov
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:53 pm

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In post 1208, DArby wrote:
In post 1174, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1164, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1159, Dwlee99 wrote:If we kill SS I'll tell you why it's darby and not me tomorrow
? well we might not kill SS today

i would rather have a good idea of what the solve is today
Well the other option is me and then the game is over so...
Oh also fmpov ik Dwlee is scum now. There’s no way they can have that confidence it’s me, not share it, and I’m town (which I know).
You know I have an indirect guilty on you right
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 1208, DArby wrote:Oh also fmpov ik Dwlee is scum now. There’s no way they can have that confidence it’s me, not share it, and I’m town (which I know).
Speaking of out of the loop...
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:09 pm

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In post 943, Dwlee99 wrote:I chose IV because multiple people thought the claim was suspicious/unlikely to be true.
Based on the setup I knew that the roleblocker could give a fake non-kill
night target so I targeted him again + he hammered the no lim before everyone checked in
can you explain this again dwlee plz?
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 1212, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1208, DArby wrote:
In post 1174, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1164, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1159, Dwlee99 wrote:If we kill SS I'll tell you why it's darby and not me tomorrow
? well we might not kill SS today

i would rather have a good idea of what the solve is today
Well the other option is me and then the game is over so...
Oh also fmpov ik Dwlee is scum now. There’s no way they can have that confidence it’s me, not share it, and I’m town (which I know).
You know I have an indirect guilty on you right
That literally means nothing to me.
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:22 pm

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Dwlee i dont even think you have to be psychic at all as scum - if you guess iv's action wrong the team crom your pov just becomes iv/ss vs darby/ss, no?

Since you're already in a mechanical cc with ss i'm not sure it becomes so much mote risky to cc iv as well
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:25 pm

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I keep my solve at ss/Dwlee. I’ll vote who whichever of the two has one other person voting there.

If iv is scum gg.
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:26 pm

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And ss from your pov why is it dwlee/iv and not dwlee/darby again?
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:27 pm

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In post 1214, skitter30 wrote:
In post 943, Dwlee99 wrote:I chose IV because multiple people thought the claim was suspicious/unlikely to be true.
Based on the setup I knew that the roleblocker could give a fake non-kill
night target so I targeted him again + he hammered the no lim before everyone checked in
can you explain this again dwlee plz?
IV visiting you could have been him using the roleblock
In post 1216, skitter30 wrote:Dwlee i dont even think you have to be psychic at all as scum - if you guess iv's action wrong the team crom your pov just becomes iv/ss vs darby/ss, no?

Since you're already in a mechanical cc with ss i'm not sure it becomes so much mote risky to cc iv as well
If IV didn't visit you and I say he did, wouldn't that confirm me scum? Cause my result would have confirmed him town and his counterclaim would make me scum
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:31 pm

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No, it just means someone's lying in you two as well?
Doesnt automatically mean you're the liar
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:32 pm

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In post 1220, skitter30 wrote:No, it just means someone's lying in you two as well?
Doesnt automatically mean you're the liar
But my result implies IV town
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:35 pm

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In post 1216, skitter30 wrote:if you guess iv's action wrong the team crom your pov just becomes iv/ss vs darby/ss, no?
No, Dwlee becomes confirmed scum. There's no way for IV to be scum if Dwlee is town based on their result.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:36 pm

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What they said basically. IV if scum would have to have roleblocked you N1, but you weren't roleblocked.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:39 pm

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Ah ok sorry >.>
I'm thinking in circles rn

I think i still want to flip ss tbh
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