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[T3]

i also have two reads that i am very much committing to and will actively fight against either of their elims. im just explaining why i have no other reads at the moment. it's not noncommittal, it's explaining what im considering with most of these players and why there is no conclusion currently.

UNVOTE: aza
I think this comes from town. I really don't see the scum motivation for this post and it seems genuine.

Who do you want to go on instead?

I sort of feel like moving back to Scorpious at the moment. Every point of his that he's brought up has been shading negative reads on him, and I can't help but feel like it comes from scum floundering and trying to preserve themselves rather than town trying to actually solve.

Egix.
VOTE: Egix

[T3]

i still think fua and andante both have different brands of "it walks like town and quacks like town, ergo" which makes me demotivated to critically rethink my townreads on d1. just binning for now. azaariah is kind of trending that way in like, an even more tonal/superficial way.

egix is i think my only spicy townread. i think i want to townread natalya but i don't because i feel like i'm waiting for like, where she's going next, if that makes sense. there's been talk about proactive vs. reactive players and their relationship to alignment. i think natalya is like kinda a subversive case of this. she's definitely on the reactive side of the spectrum, but i don't think it's in an inward-focused/agenda indicative way? more like, she only really reacts to things that pique her interest. i feel like i'm going to have an easier time reading natalya later.

t3 and scorp are big buckets of "mmm huh" because like, the more i try to understand where either of them are coming from wrt approaching solving the game, the less certain i feel that i can divine their alignment. think scorp needs to be given some space to do scorp things and i don't think their convo with fua is going anywhere unfortunately.

i want to have a tea party with oman and andante. i would not be surprised if i just waffle on oman until there's a couple of flips. they have the kind of playstyle where they read things and analyse things and then do things and it scares me because i'm a lame yet adorable hyperposter who has like 3 original thoughts per quarter. i think what they're pushing presents as inquisitive more than opportunistic (there's some ~things~ happening which i think analytical scum would have had a better chance to capitalise on => if oman is scum and they're as sharp as i fear they are then they're making decisions which sacrifice good optics).

retti is pressing buttons which is p cool, i haven't decided how i'm approaching solving their slot yet. i'm finding their push on me a bit uninteresting. honestly i'm old grumpy and experienced enough to either (1) make decisions to look a certain way and proceed accordingly, or (2) firmly posit that i'm doing the first thing and double down on it for no reason. i get why they think what i'm doing looks bad. i don't get why they think what i'm doing is scum-aligned. in broad strokes it might be fair to say i think this applies to a lot of what they're doing; they asking questions and making points but i'm kind of vibing til i see a bit more of like, where they're going with this.


i have literally no read on andres, uglyducko or jackson. andres had a cute rvs but is experienced enough to fake a cute rvs. literally none of them have a weak scumgames so i doubt we've got a team of just straight frozen scum but it's p hard to resist the urge to torture them for now. i do think jackson superficially has like, the highest scum equity of the trio.

When have you played with scum Andres?

[T3]

Anyway.. reads..partial..full..right…wrong… and my favorite color is Blue.

Natalya- Not scum, or the best scum ever.. not scum

Andante-Not scum, also cheered me on *blush*. Thanks, nice break from getting pummeled.
But I’m a sucker for the active, and this seems way too active and non contradictory

Oman- This one is weird, was really the first one to outwardly “support” me, and the quotes meaning he didn’t come in guns blazing. I’m puzzled because they switched the vote to Jackson over..? Policy?
I feel a scum vote would easily Trump the policy vote.Is this the beginning of scum initiating activity arguments?This is a null for me

Retti- Scares me. I cannot read this person. On one hand they seem receptive to logic that isn’t from their own thought process, but When I read these posts they just give me this calculated vibe. I can’t put my finger on it..Gun to my head… scum.

T3- Get this feeling this can be a scum with Aza, Voting them, then accepting a single post to remove the vote, with little to no push does not sit well with me. I’d vote this

Fua- Really likes cutting me down, didn’t like how they answered twice in a row for Natalya when I was trying to get a reaction, feels coachish..not sure how AI that is though. I can see scum motivation for trying to guide another’s behavior. Scum….ish… lean? Like as close to null as you can be but still be on the scum side.

Az- The four paragraph “ I think this, but I might think that, but if I thought that, then I might think that..” turned me off. Is it even fluff anymore? Biggest scum read atm.

the worst- no read, this person is way beyond me in levels of skill. I feel stupid even trying to read this one. I intially felt like him and Natalya were site friends just having a good time, but I was wrong. This is a null..

Egix seems a touch opportunistic, but this is that murky activity area.
And the other 2, well.. we’ll see..

This readlist feels very consensus-y. The reasons for townreading Natalya and Andante are very fake. Also, Scorp is hedging quite a bit on... literally everyone else.

[T3]

In fact, I might just VOTE: Scorp.

[Scorpious]

At this point you all should probably just lim me and use the information from my train.

I ask questions, they’re the wrong questions..

I post reads.they’re the “wrong” reads.

Kinda over it, honestly. Just let the scum team lim me. I’m losing interest.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Scorp
claim please

[Retti]

I'm assuming that's effectively a VT claim.

[Retti]

Can we not have a hammer before people have had a chance to post, at least?

[Natalya]

unvote

I'm not really comfortable ending the day this early.

What information do you think we would get from you Scorp if we were to flip you here?

[T3]

Trying to expand on my townread on Egix feels like trying to explain a shitty townread on a scumbuddy who you dont need to interact with. I'm going to devolve and just yell "it's a gut feeling!!!", throw away my toys and walk away.

I like this post. There might be some active=town bias but this seems a little bit too 'out there' for scum and the reasons are believable.

[T3]

Yo t3 is here let's goooo

Tic
Tac
Toe

[Dwlee99]

Yo t3 is here let's goooo

Tic
Tac
Toe

message received!

[Natalya]

VOTE: Scorp
claim please

Do you really think it's possible a TPR posts the message you responded to?

[Dwlee99]

Yea

[Andante]

Can y’all not hammer Scorp in the next 24 hours, like what is the actual rush? Scorp, if you’re town, just keep doing what you were doing not this, cause the whole selfvoting/ “just hammer me” stuff is dumb and if you are town we learn nothing from your flip if you do that before you go over

[Andante]

There is 0 reason to ask for claims right now, a hammer should not be happening. Half the table hasn’t really talked

[Retti]

Townreading Egix feels like a step too far but I don't really get the hate there besides "low volume", his last few posts have been fine and he's doing more than duck/andres who are just prodging to stay in the game.

[T3]

If retti is maf, omin is partner

Explain?

[Retti]

dwlee, do you have an actual read on scorp or are you just voting there because it's the only wagon, what's the deal?

[Natalya]

At this point you all should probably just lim me and use the information from my train.

I ask questions, they’re the wrong questions..

I post reads.they’re the “wrong” reads.

Kinda over it, honestly. Just let the scum team lim me. I’m losing interest.

I feel kind of bad that you feel this way regardless of your alignment.

I don't want you to not have fun but what you're doing currently is not very helpful for solving or advancing game state for the town.

That doesn't mean you necessarily have to be eliminated here because it's not impossible for someone who is not as familiar with how games work to be completely lost - I was also similarly lost at one point.

We still have a number of days left and I think we can try again if you're feeling up to it? You can take a bit of a break and hopefully you will feel better about giving it another try.

If you're town I do want to figure this out. Sorry again for making this quite unpleasant.

[Dwlee99]

dwlee, do you have an actual read on scorp or are you just voting there because it's the only wagon, what's the deal?

I liked t3's point but that's about it

[Scorpious]

I mean, the fact that someone that has said 30 words this game used words #28 and #29 to put me on e-1 should raise alarm bells, no?

[Natalya]

I'm fairly sure Oman is town.

Reading their posts they feel genuinely upset that large portions of the player list are not posting and resigned to town apathy possibly destroying the chances of town winning this game.

They haven't played on the site for a while and they come from a time when lurking was actually quite an issue for town win rates so I think this mindset probably is not faked.

It's not like 100% but they're one of my more confident townreads atp for what it's worth.

[Natalya]

I mean, the fact that someone that has said 30 words this game used words #28 and #29 to put me on e-1 should raise alarm bells, no?

I think it's cute you counted how many words dwlee has posted

are you going to vote for them?

[Andante]

Get Scorp off E-1 right now.
You don’t put someone on E-1 unless you want them to go over.