Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

[Andante]

Yeah, so if my poe is right then we have time to eliminate everyone in there

it feels too early to be *that* confident...

There's an if you know

a what if I know what?

[Milk & Mocha]

I just think you're scum. I'm also salty about how people kept saying that was a scum slip. it literally wasn't.

It was a scum slip

And yea not following why you think I'm scum here

It wasn't >:CC

I dont really like most of your posts. It feels like you're faking confidence. It feels like you dont want to give reads or opinions but are forcing things out.

[Dwlee99]

If it's right

I'm not like super confident but it's where I'm at and half the game isn't playing soo

[Andante]

see, I'm not confident making true reads like that yet, this game is way too dead, and just has rvs

[Dwlee99]

I just think you're scum. I'm also salty about how people kept saying that was a scum slip. it literally wasn't.

It was a scum slip

And yea not following why you think I'm scum here

It wasn't >:CC

I dont really like most of your posts. It feels like you're faking confidence. It feels like you dont want to give reads or opinions but are forcing things out.

If I don't want to give reads why am I the first one to express townreads on 6 people? I don't think I'm even being that confident either, I'm just proposing some early townreads

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: marci
Let's go here ?

[DArby]

Is numberQ trying BBB's Gambit or something like it? I am probably wrong about the Gambit's name though.

can u explain wht the gambit ur thinking of is?

i dont know too much abt gambits

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... 27s_Gambit

It's basically just reverse psychology. NumberQ isn't really doing this though, Dwlee is.

Wait is your pfp Santa from 999 or am i tripping?

Yep, it's Santa.

My original username choice was just going to be Santa since he's my favorite character from the game, but I didn't want to give off the impression that this was a roleplay account, so I just went with a name that alluded to him. You're the first person to recognize my pfp actually, so that's a nice little serotonin boost lol.

Oh. Yeah. A character account totally would come across as role play like. Oh well.

[DArby]

Question, are we trying to eliminate jester or let jester get night killed?

we have no reason to fullfill jester's wincon. eliminating jester only helps scum in my opinion. it wastes our elim and gives scum a "free nightkill"

So do you think we should overall avoid figuring out who the jester is?

[Milk & Mocha]

I just think you're scum. I'm also salty about how people kept saying that was a scum slip. it literally wasn't.

It was a scum slip

And yea not following why you think I'm scum here

It wasn't >:CC

I dont really like most of your posts. It feels like you're faking confidence. It feels like you dont want to give reads or opinions but are forcing things out.

If I don't want to give reads why am I the first one to express townreads on 6 people? I don't think I'm even being that confident either, I'm just proposing some early townreads

no im acknowledging that you are giving reads but i just feel like they are faked because there aren't really reasons for most of them? i feel like when im scum, i tend to get ahead of myself and sometimes out early reads lists. typically i try to find a good timing to do it (when im getting pressure, etc) but its not weird for me to just out a full readslist for no reason as scum either.

[Dwlee99]

There are reasons, you just haven't asked for them lol

[Dwlee99]

And you saying there aren't reasons for most of them... I didn't give reasons for ANY

[Milk & Mocha]

idk i guess the reason isn't exactly the lack of reason. More just like, the tone. I guess I just feel like you would be confident as town. Whether or not the confidence is correct doesn't matter but I feel like you would be confident. Like you were so confident I was scum over barely any posts. You never engaged me until later but you just constantly repeated that i was scum over and over again and i just dont see that confidence here.

[Milk & Mocha]

And you saying there aren't reasons for most of them... I didn't give reasons for ANY

Further proves my point then.

[Dwlee99]

:I

[Dwlee99]

Considering if I'm was early snowed ala FF

[Kerset]

ahhlo replaces kunchi

[marcistar]

but I do think she is potentially an easy read

i am not an easy read wtf

idk y but i like 88 so much its so funny

103 i agree with dwlee in this post,

136 is the post that gives me bad vibez the most from milk and mocha, but honestly the fact people are jumping at them so much for posts i dont even find that weird is making me not even wanna pay attention to them :/ i dont agree that theyre scummy.

[Toogeloo]

Question, are we trying to eliminate jester or let jester get night killed?

I think we should eliminate the Jester. If the Jester wants to come forward so we can just eliminate you now, that would be sweet.

[Toogeloo]

SETUP

9 Vanilla Town
1 Innocent Child

3 Mafia

1 Jester

Game starts as White Flag.
If

Jester

dies from

elimination

then White Flag mechanics gets disabled.
If

Jester

dies from nightkill then game becomes Nightless.

Jester

wins, if it gets

eliminated

. Once

Town

is reduced to 4 members,

Jester

gets treestumped and loses.

Innocent Child

may reveal itself at any given time.

Mafia

wins via parity.

Spoiler: Role PMs

Welcome, x. You are a

Jester

. The game thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=88391

Abilities:

Doomed: You will leave the game in a loss, once Town is reduced to 4 members.

Win condition:

You win when you are eliminated via the Day vote. Your win will not end the game.

Reply with your role to me to confirm

Welcome, x. You are a

Mafia Goon

. Your partner is y. The game thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=88391

Abilities:

Factional communication: At any time during the game, you may talk with your partner here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=88391
Factional kill: Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may kill a target player.

Win condition:

You win when your faction holds a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Reply with your role to me to confirm

Welcome, x. You are a

Mafia Goon

. Your partner is y. The game thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=88391

Abilities:

Factional communication: At any time during the game, you may talk with your partner here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=88391

Win condition:

You win when your faction holds a majority or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Reply with your role to me to confirm

Welcome, x. You are a

Innocent Child

. The game thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=88391

Abilities:

During day you may post

I reveal myself

in bold to reveal yourself as Innocent Child.

Win condition:

If

Jester

dies from elimination, you win when there are no longer any threats to town.
If

Jester

doesn't die from elimination, you win when only one Mafia Goon remains.

Reply with your role to me to confirm

Welcome, x.You are a

Vanilla Townie

. The game thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=88391

Abilities:

Your weapon is your vote, you have no special abilities.

Win condition:

If

Jester

dies from elimination, you win when there are no longer any threats to town.
If

Jester

doesn't die from elimination, you win when only one Mafia Goon remains.

Reply with your role to me to confirm

For clarification, does Jester only win if they are voted out?

[numberQ]

Are you trying to reverse psychology the jester? I honestly don't know why we'd want to fulfill their win con via vote, pretty sure it only helps scum it it removes the white flag mechanic

[DArby]

Question, are we trying to eliminate jester or let jester get night killed?

I think we should eliminate the Jester. If the Jester wants to come forward so we can just eliminate you now, that would be sweet.

What no this is a bad idea. How the jester does means the faction responsible is punished. If they’re limmed scum gets basically a +1.

[Not_Mafia]

Y’all dense ngl

[MegAzumarill]

The real question is if we should out jester reads or not.
I'm of the opinion to keep jester reads to ourselves because they upside of scum killing jester outweighs the downside of an elimination making the game require +1 scum dead.

But we don't want to eliminate jester so if you heavily jester read the biggest candidate for an elimination then and only then is the time to speak up

[ahhlo]

vote: marcistar

I think Dwlee99 is mafia, but i also think that it's better not to kill him rn because he will out the other mafia in his posts.

i think he votes marcistar because he wants to look like a town later, and i think marcistar is just posting waffle posts instead of actually helping - so it really does look like their mafia. however, I don't think that Dwlee thinks marci is mafia because marci is acting like mafia, because he has not said any reason for why he voted that way. he said that no one asked, but if he was really town, he wouldn't need to be asked... town would want other pepole to know why someone must be mafia, so that otheres will vote alongside, whereas mafia voting their scum partner does not want anyone else to vote alongside them.

but okay, I will give dwlee a chance: why did you vote marci, exactly?

[ahhlo]

If someone in there is IC that might be an autowin list

it doesnt make sense to talk like this... like he is actually going to commit to this list he made already? some of the people in that list hadn't even talked yet