Open 838 – ISITMAINAC [Endgame]

[Cook]

pagetop stolen

[Jacket]

I'm not sure I like this post, coupled with the vote on RH9 in the previous one. It seems like he's saying that he feels like this isn't the case with active scum and apathetic town, but then he votes one of the more active slots? Not saying that he can't have scumreads inside active players if that's his general view on the gamestate, but it feels odd considering he didn't elaborate on it at all.

I think you're misinterpreting my point here. Which is probably my fault for not being explicit enough.

I would characterize the following slots as not doing enough to be readable, as of the time I replaced in:

A50
ADSE
Not_Mafia
STD
StrangeMatter

Now, they obviously can't all be scum. But there's probably scum in there, because it does not feel like a game where scum are running the show, and I felt like the people talking were townie enough. (hopefully, anyway - bit me in my ass in my last game, but that was a case where scum were active but just letting the town eat itself alive).

To me those slots were basically all a dart throw. Acceptable compromise but pretty much a blind guess when it comes to whether or not they're scum.

The one player I

did

have a scumread on was RH9, so I chose to push there, rather than someone who was more inactive and nullish.

As it is, I'm doubting myself on that push anyway.

I find it slightly curious there is no mention of Galron on this list. He’s not on the “unreadable list”. But there is no read on him, same with me and others. But just an observation.

Why make a non readable list then offer a read on exactly one person? Complete with hedge.

Then, In the very next post we have their only direct interaction with each other this entire game

Also, Jacket, why the unvote?

He said a thing I don't think comes from scum.

Something off here

Pretty sure I expressed that I thought he was town later. I was wrong. It happens.

[Jacket]

Galron didn't post that much after my replace in, go and check for yourself. Wouldn't have been much opportunity for interaction. Should have realized at the time he was coasting. Sucks, but that's how it goes.

And "I'm doubting myself" isn't a hedge - that's me actively deciding I might be wrong on RH9 and dropping the push.

[RH9]

Did I miss anything?

[RH9]

RCEnigma, do you think that CB was NKed because of passiveness?

[RH9]

RCEnigma, do you think that CB was NKed because of passiveness?

Same goes for all of you.

[Three]

There's so much to respond to and unpack but I'll have to get to it later when I have time. Right now I just want to go over the concept of this game supposedly being solved.

So for whatever wild reason, I'm being lead to believe that Scorpius, Jacket, and myself are likely all town. That seems to be the consensus right now, correct?

So with have three consensus town reads, and RC as our IC. That leaves only five players left, two of which are scum and one of which is SK. However, we also have a Vig, and likely a Cop as well. If the town reads are correct, we win by claiming today, and even if we decide against claiming the PoE is so ridiculously small that we still just win.

The PoE in this case is Greeting/Looker/Nathann/RH9/STD. Jacket thinks RH9 is town, and I'm fairly certain Nathann is town. Which leaves the hero solve as Greeting/Looker/STD, who all have had suspicion this game as it is anyway. Looker would be my first choice in this case, since I think Strange looks worse today than he did Day 1, he was the most suspicious out of PoE Day 1, and Looker upon replacing in isn't looking particularly townie.

If you guys are actually confident that Scorpius, Jacket, and I are all town, this kind of has to be the route we take here.

[Scorpious]

Three. Is this an alt for you?

[Scorpious]

VOTE: RH9

Just waiting for this slot to show me something..

Still waiting, if they aren’t referencing anything other than this game, they literally have no content.

I would have taken any response over “Really?” to my soft claim comment. Do you agree. Do you disagree, anything?

No hunting at all.

This is scum

[Greeting]

There's so much to respond to and unpack but I'll have to get to it later when I have time. Right now I just want to go over the concept of this game supposedly being solved.

So for whatever wild reason, I'm being lead to believe that Scorpius, Jacket, and myself are likely all town. That seems to be the consensus right now, correct?

So with have three consensus town reads, and RC as our IC. That leaves only five players left, two of which are scum and one of which is SK. However, we also have a Vig, and likely a Cop as well. If the town reads are correct, we win by claiming today, and even if we decide against claiming the PoE is so ridiculously small that we still just win.

The PoE in this case is Greeting/Looker/Nathann/RH9/STD. Jacket thinks RH9 is town, and I'm fairly certain Nathann is town. Which leaves the hero solve as Greeting/Looker/STD, who all have had suspicion this game as it is anyway. Looker would be my first choice in this case, since I think Strange looks worse today than he did Day 1, he was the most suspicious out of PoE Day 1, and Looker upon replacing in isn't looking particularly townie.

If you guys are actually confident that Scorpius, Jacket, and I are all town, this kind of has to be the route we take here.

Okay, so firstly - who said or even suggested that this game is solved? You say "supposedly" which implies that it has been said before, but I see no such statement from anyone.

Secondly, I am not sure what consensus you're referring to. The only player I definitely think is town is

Nathann

.

Scorpious

and

Jacket

are definitely edging towards the townie side, but I do not include either in my townreads. If you're mentioning a consensus, then please explain to me how you think it came by and what is it exactly.

Finally, when it comes to suspicion on me - the only person who ever majorly suspected and questioned me in this game is

Jacket

. They haven't made it clear what their position on me is as of now. Why would I be included in a list with

StrangeMatter

and

Save_The_Dragons

who both have been suspected by various players? I mean, you're free to point at players who you think is scum as you like, but you're implying that this list is supported by the opinions of others, yet I see no other support.

This doesn't feel like a genuine way of thinking. There's so many holes in this.

[Greeting]

I just noticed

StrangeMatter

has been replaced - extend this to

Looker

, their successor.

[Save The Dragons]

i like some of RH9's thought processes i wouldn't say he's doing no hunting

[Save The Dragons]

i am so lost this game

[Scorpious]

i missed it too tbh

Defends Galron for not knowing who IC is.

Scum tell on Galron confirmed obviously.

[Scorpious]

More votes on Scorpious please

I feel like this confirms me.. any objections?

[RH9]

@Cook VC please

[Looker]

Sorry for the full 24 hours after the ego post, but I should have more stuff up tonight. There've been a lot of replacements.

[RH9]

Sorry for the full 24 hours after the ego post, but I should have more stuff up tonight. There've been a lot of replacements.

Don't worry, Looker! And I'll try not to misread you again after spectating Newbie 2083 (where Andresvmb, who was in your PoE that game, got NKed).

[Scorpious]

Sorry for the full 24 hours after the ego post, but I should have more stuff up tonight. There've been a lot of replacements.

Don't worry, Looker! And I'll try not to misread you again after spectating Newbie 2083 (where Andresvmb, who was in your PoE that game, got NKed).

You seriously have to being this to annoy me at this point.

[Scorpious]

Ebwop- *to be doing this

[RH9]

Promise not to try to further provoke you.

[Scorpious]

Promise not to try to further provoke you.

Half joke, and totally in game comment. No worries.

[RH9]

I feel like we should wait for the IC.

[RH9]

RCEnigma, do you think that CB was NKed because of passiveness?

Same goes for all of you.

If you want, please answer 804.

[Three]

There's so much to respond to and unpack but I'll have to get to it later when I have time. Right now I just want to go over the concept of this game supposedly being solved.

So for whatever wild reason, I'm being lead to believe that Scorpius, Jacket, and myself are likely all town. That seems to be the consensus right now, correct?

So with have three consensus town reads, and RC as our IC. That leaves only five players left, two of which are scum and one of which is SK. However, we also have a Vig, and likely a Cop as well. If the town reads are correct, we win by claiming today, and even if we decide against claiming the PoE is so ridiculously small that we still just win.

The PoE in this case is Greeting/Looker/Nathann/RH9/STD. Jacket thinks RH9 is town, and I'm fairly certain Nathann is town. Which leaves the hero solve as Greeting/Looker/STD, who all have had suspicion this game as it is anyway. Looker would be my first choice in this case, since I think Strange looks worse today than he did Day 1, he was the most suspicious out of PoE Day 1, and Looker upon replacing in isn't looking particularly townie.

If you guys are actually confident that Scorpius, Jacket, and I are all town, this kind of has to be the route we take here.

Okay, so firstly - who said or even suggested that this game is solved? You say "supposedly" which implies that it has been said before, but I see no such statement from anyone.

Secondly, I am not sure what consensus you're referring to. The only player I definitely think is town is

Nathann

.

Scorpious

and

Jacket

are definitely edging towards the townie side, but I do not include either in my townreads. If you're mentioning a consensus, then please explain to me how you think it came by and what is it exactly.

Finally, when it comes to suspicion on me - the only person who ever majorly suspected and questioned me in this game is

Jacket

. They haven't made it clear what their position on me is as of now. Why would I be included in a list with

StrangeMatter

and

Save_The_Dragons

who both have been suspected by various players? I mean, you're free to point at players who you think is scum as you like, but you're implying that this list is supported by the opinions of others, yet I see no other support.

This doesn't feel like a genuine way of thinking. There's so many holes in this.

You know a lot of the questions you ask me could be answered if you just...read the game. This is the second time I've had to say this now.