Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[T3]

Amy stop stalling.
hammering is protown regardless of dunn's alignment

[Amy Dunne]

Amy stop stalling.
hammering is protown regardless of dunn's alignment

I’m not and I’m getting annoyed at being told that. Tell me how it’s protown and I’ll fucking hammer okay?

[Titus]

If Dunn is scum, the game boils down to a 50/50 RR v House OR Alyssa and RR tells us.

If Dunn is town, we get you versus RR.

Pretty simple.

[Titus]

More accurately, we get RR + 1 v you and House or Alyssa.

[Amy Dunne]

If Dunn flips Town, it's Amy and House OR Alyssa.
I haven't done the math to know if it's safe to eliminate me first in that case, but I'm probably dead tonight anyway, so I guess it'll all get cleared up then

We have one spare elimination, so we can afford to miss--once. (Unless a scum's kill fails again in which case we gain another mislim since we're on evens right now.)

This is both why I want a Dunnstral elimination today, and if he flips scum, an RR elimination tomorrow assuming scum leave you alive. Because it removes unsafe variables, it generates the most possible information, and it gives us the clearest best endgame state possible where we know the most we can possibly know and we have all the info we can have. When we get to mylo, I want to have there be no paranoia, no take-our-word-for-it scenarios, for it to be as close as we can get to having taken every variable into account.

A Dunnstral townflip means that you'd be scum since again, Amy Dunne's not scum with House and your claimed result would require Amy Dunne to be scum. Meaning the only possible scumteams would be RR + buddy (could even be Amy honestly) or Amy + Lady Chloe (and the latter I refuse to believe). However, that's only if Dunnstral flips town. Which he almost certainly isn't. It's good to prepare ahead in the worst case scenario where he IS town, but I just think that he's scum. I've thought Dunn was scum in one game from the beginning, I think his Demon Lord claim was scum-motivated, and I think the Demon Lord is a scum role because I have a suspicion that the scum having two roles to fuck with voting mechanics was a deliberate design choice on Jingle's part to give them counterplay to the wagon analyzer. (For the record, the UB being scum still fits that as the potential for the final scum to inherit the role would make it three for three in roles to fuck with the wagon analyzer. Which is another reason why I think RR could be scum regardless of Dunnstral's alignment.)

A Dunnstral scumflip means one scum left, and we have the knowledge that Amy Dunne is conftown (via RR's claimed result) and T3 is conftown (since T3 can only be scum if RR is, Dunn flipping scum means T3 can't be scum due to only one scum alive). Scum can kill one in the night, but not both. Meaning that we go into tomorrow with Titus (basically conftown already), RR, myself (essentially confirmed), 1/2 of our conftown, House, and Lady Chloe--
Eliminating RR tomorrow is safe. If RR is the last scum, it's the correct move to have made.
If RR is not scum, it basically creates a "1v1" between House and Lady Chloe. (Lady Chloe is not scum btw, so...)

That, aside from how RR is going to generate another result.

And if the scum kill RR to prevent that result, we've got even better!
Scum killing RR means that Amy Dunne and Dunnstral are both alive and conftown--with Titus as basically conftown and me as basically confirmed, you know what that means? We have 6 alive, a mislim, and literally precisely two scumspects, in House and Lady Chloe. (And it's not Lady Chloe.)

So the scum cannot kill RR, meaning RR should get that extra result, meaning that RR should give us the extra info tomorrow, and we can confirm the info by eliminating RR as to prevent the scenario of RR being scum bullshitting.

VOTE: Dunn

[Jingle]

Vote Count Theme.3.FINAL

Dunnstral (E-1):

mastina, Titus, T3, House, Amy Dunne

Amy Dunne(E-4):

Dunnstral,

House (E-4):

Demon Lord

Titus (E-5):

T3 (E-5):

Radical Rat (E-5):

mastina (E-5):

Alyssa the Lamb(E-5):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (2):

Alyssa the Lamb, Radical Rat,

With 8 alive, it takes

5

to murder/death/kill or

4

to choose not to.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2021-12-24 02:00:00).

[Jingle]

Spoiler: Mini Theme

Welcome, Dunnstral to Triplicate Mafia: Carbon Paper. A love letter to Bureaucracy at its finest.

You are

Form 22-2

, aligned with the Paperwork faction.

You may fill the game thread with many glorious words which contain the information needed to deduce the logic and reasoning behind the intentions of the other players in this game. All of the forms in this game have this power. You may also vote to retire some of the forms from use. Sadly, this destruction of forms is necessary, as there are petitions hidden amongst the forms that are trying to simplify the bureaucratic process, allowing the average individual to access the inner workings of their representation without hours of frustration and pain. Frankly, this cannot stand.

You win when all enemies of Paperwork have been eliminated and at least one Form is still alive.

Additionally, due to your special nature you have access to this PT. You may choose a name, and cast a vote using that name by posting in said PT. This is in addition to the vote described above and will not change the required number of votes for the vote threshhold.

[Jingle]

DUNNSTRAL IS DEADED IN ALL ONGOING GAMES AND MAY NOT POST HERE.

LADY CHLOE HAS BEEN DEADED IN ALL ONGOING GAMES AND MAY NOT POST HERE. APPARENTLY, THE FORUM ATE THE EDIT WHEN I ADDED THIS TO THE PREVIOUS DEADED POST, BUT I DIDN'T NOTICE.

[Jingle]

It is now night in the Mini Theme. Actions are due by (expired on 2021-12-24 02:00:00).

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Additionally, due to your special nature you have access to this PT. You may choose a name, and cast a vote using that name by posting in said PT. This is in addition to the vote described above and will not change the required number of votes for the vote threshhold.

I'm flabbergasted

[Alyssa The Lamb]

dunnstral deadass chose to use his extra vote using a name that was more indicative of a scum role than a town role

what the fuck

[T3]

i would have chosen "t3 is fucking epic" or just to troll the entire game i would make my extra vote "Jingle" or something lol
anywayyyyyyys what does that flip tell us

[Titus]

It tells us that RR and Amy has at least 1 scum in it.

[Radical Rat]

@mod

Now that both Cheeky and Dunn's role PMs are public knowledge, could you tell us what alignment Demon Lord counted as for wagon analysis?

I know the town flip means Dunn probably wasn't lying, but proper confirmation is nice.

[Jingle]

Demon Lord was not a player and thus did not have an alignment. It would show as a different alignment than any adjacent votes.

[Titus]

I'm feeling rather ill. Won't be here much if at all.

[Jingle]

Feel better, Titus.

I would mark you as V/LA, just in case, but posting is non compulsory during night phases.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

i would have chosen "t3 is fucking epic" or just to troll the entire game i would make my extra vote "Jingle" or something lol
anywayyyyyyys what does that flip tell us

It's best not to discuss it until night phase ends

[mastina]

MOD: Strongly V/LA for next 48 hours due to work

[Jingle]

Noted, although no prods will be going out until 36 hours after daystart.

[House]

I'm too busy chatting in the scum pt to pay attention to this thread right now.

[Amy Dunne]

Spoiler: Mini Theme

Welcome, Dunnstral to Triplicate Mafia: Carbon Paper. A love letter to Bureaucracy at its finest.

You are

Form 22-2

, aligned with the Paperwork faction.

You may fill the game thread with many glorious words which contain the information needed to deduce the logic and reasoning behind the intentions of the other players in this game. All of the forms in this game have this power. You may also vote to retire some of the forms from use. Sadly, this destruction of forms is necessary, as there are petitions hidden amongst the forms that are trying to simplify the bureaucratic process, allowing the average individual to access the inner workings of their representation without hours of frustration and pain. Frankly, this cannot stand.

You win when all enemies of Paperwork have been eliminated and at least one Form is still alive.

Additionally, due to your special nature you have access to this PT. You may choose a name, and cast a vote using that name by posting in said PT. This is in addition to the vote described above and will not change the required number of votes for the vote threshhold.

I can’t believe Dunn actually chose DL as a name but why did he vote Meg with it and have his main as not voting? He played so scummy here, I can’t grok how he could gave been triple town here.

[Amy Dunne]

dunnstral deadass chose to use his extra vote using a name that was more indicative of a scum role than a town role

what the fuck

Ikr, what was he thinking?

[Amy Dunne]

Tomorrow we take our goddamned time and not rush this.

[Titus]

Tomorrow we take our goddamned time and not rush this.

Agreeed.