In post 2992, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Shotgun response off general associatives is that I would be more cautious about them in a game like this
I wouldn't--associatives are actually more meaningful since if you vote someone in one game, you're voting them in all games. So if Amy were scum with House, every vote on House would be risking his death in game 2 during that timeframe due to the game sync between games 1 and 2 lasting until D3.
Amy was pushing House in both games 1 AND 2. As an extra reminder: the Demon Lord was not in fact controlled by scum and was in fact controlled by town, so voting House in game 2 was extra risky for Amy because at any point, if a wagon there formed, House could die in game 2 without being killed in game 1.
In post 2996, Radical Rat wrote:mastina, your argument is that Titus being alive makes me look Town, which means I'm Scum doing it for towncred? Am I reading that correctly?
Not precisely.
My argument is that Titus being alive is something
you
believe will make you look town.
In post 3005, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:town physically cannot win if the scumteam is anything other than the two combinations mentioned by her unless she can be convinced that she's falsely clearing one
at least unless she decides to scumside, which isn't entirely unrealistic since I've seen her do that before
As a reminder, it's literally impossible for me to scumside with two scum alive. I realize you have only my word for that, but the fact that I am actually trying to scumhunt here is fairly good proof of that.
As for scumteams, yes, I do need convincing, but I can in fact be convinced.
The scumteam possibilities are:
House-Titus: mechanically impossible via RR
House-Alyssa: mechanically impossible via RR
House-RR: one of the two scumteam combos I think is most likely (but the elimination is always RR first)
House-Amy: I've explained why I think this is an unlikely combo and if you believe otherwise, yes, you'll need to convince me as to why. (The elimination would be Amy first.)
Alyssa-Titus: mechanically impossible via RR
Alyssa-RR: a possible scumteam combo which admittedly I've not given much thought to (but the elimination is always RR first), although it's obviously one you'd know to not be the case Alyssa.
Alyssa-Amy: the other scumteam combo I think is most likely (but the elimination would always be Amy first)
Titus-RR: while I think it's very unlikely, it's at least possible (but the elimination is always RR first)
Titus-Amy: mechanically impossible via RR
RR-Amy: possible, but basically gamethrowing from RR if so.
So when you remove the impossible, you get only:
House-RR:
Very likely combo
House-Amy:
Unlikely combo
Alyssa-RR: Possible, not really discussed tho
Alyssa-Amy:
High chance combo
Titus-RR:
Unlikely combo
RR-Amy:
basically impossible barring gamethrowing
In every single one of those, we eliminate either RR or Amy.
In post 3003, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Dunnstral made a pretty good point in the neighborhood, and one that realistically shouldn't be reposted in the main thread
I find this baffling coming from you.
Weren't you the one who complained about keeping things from the main thread in a
previous Jingle mini theme?
'Cause I distinctly recall you complaining about how much of the game was in that PT, how much of the game revolved around that PT, the info in that PT being kept from the town, your inability to interact with the players within, etc.
You're now doing to me what was done to you in that game by keeping the info from me. Which is, again, why I find it so baffling. I realize that game was two years ago, but I'd expect the bad experience of having been locked out of the loop to have stuck with you? Like, I remembered it, and it wasn't even me who was affected! How could I remember something relating to you which you wouldn't? So I find it hard to reconcile your self from back then complaining about how much you were locked out of the loop, and your self now deliberately locking players like me out of the loop.