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you're deep in a holeIn post 5973, Andante wrote:lol ok yep Dragons maf-
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if it's a bad reason then i'm bad but it doesn't make me mafia?In post 5975, Andante wrote:you tr me off ATE? that's like... not a good reason at all-
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Andante SheSurvivorShe
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how am I deep in a hole? you've called me town all game, all cause of ATE? like, that's not even an actual reason to TR someone. Have you seen all the emotion related posts this game? Like, I know I haven't been crazy towny, but I do think I've had towny moments, and if you TRed one of them, ok I might buy it, but I don't feel like I'm a legit TR here, it's like "yeah I TRed ATE, thus you're town!" and I haven't even asked why you flipped your fire read yet... like, "oh if I TR the 2 pushing for me, I'll be TRed" yeah no, doesn't work that wayIn post 5976, Save The Dragons wrote:
you're deep in a holeIn post 5973, Andante wrote:lol ok yep Dragons maf-
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Andante SheSurvivorShe
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I pretty much think you're maf solely off the fact you said I'm town like 20 times and have given no actual solving reads. yes. you're mafia hereIn post 5977, Save The Dragons wrote:
if it's a bad reason then i'm bad but it doesn't make me mafia?In post 5975, Andante wrote:you tr me off ATE? that's like... not a good reason at all-
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you've confirm biased yourself it doesn't matter what i say you'll believe it comes from scum but i don't really understand the reason you think i'm scum in the first place, because first it was for voting for datisi now it's because i believe you're town-
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Andante SheSurvivorShe
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do you actually want to hear it or are you going to say i'm scum for it-
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Andante SheSurvivorShe
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pretty much yes. my lolvote made me actually go look, and the only thing I even remember hearing you say all game has been "andante is town" like, you never gave any reasoning with it, and now I hear that it was cause of ATE? like seriously??In post 5980, Save The Dragons wrote:you've confirm biased yourself it doesn't matter what i say you'll believe it comes from scum but i don't really understand the reason you think i'm scum in the first place, because first it was for voting for datisi now it's because i believe you're town-
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Andante SheSurvivorShe
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I actually want to hear it, cause it sure as heck feels like its been an attempt for me to just go "ah yep. dragons town" and move on with my life, but I haven't seen content from youIn post 5983, Save The Dragons wrote:do you actually want to hear it or are you going to say i'm scum for it-
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have you ever considered that maybe i'm good at reading genuine emotion-
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Andante SheSurvivorShe
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fire threatened to leave and gave some good points. i like that he's trying to challenge me, he's wrong but he's not wrong that in pokemon i did more. i remember a lot of shitposts in this game from him but he's also said some good stuff.-
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as a playstyle thing i rarely give reads unless asked about them-
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i'm missing where i'm mafia from this and not just wrong/badIn post 5988, Andante wrote:this game has been way too emotional for a handful of people, I'm not reading people off emotion... genuine emotion can go either way for anyone, town or maf-
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This is scummy actuallyIn post 5983, Save The Dragons wrote:do you actually want to hear it or are you going to say i'm scum for it-
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Alyssa The Lamb Mafia Scum
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it was pretty cathartic letting it all outIn post 5974, Galron wrote:
This is it's own form of AtE, a more intellectual type, that I dislike because it comes across as deviously manipulative. I don't completely disagree with some of the sentiment, but the way it's expressed, Alyssa, seems beneath you.In post 5961, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:hat leaves me with essentially no ground to stand on unless I try to brute force my way through (which is the type of thing that has worked so well this game so far), with a broken town that is more than likely never going to be able to properly sort in an endgame scenario, and with me in a state where I can't do it for them
so I don't know what exactly I'm supposed to do, because from here all I see is that even if my reads are basically spot on, I can't actually verify them or rally town enough by myself to actually push them through
like it's frankly getting very old how easily it is to hide how easy it is for scum to slam through a kill on the pairing of one of the only people in this town capable of actually pulling people together, or shading pairs that are more likely than not TvT pairings, and just defending each other while the chaos just keeps reigning over the thread. Everyone is so far up their own ass that I don't think it's possible for this town to be saved anymore without something really drastic happening, and I don't have the willpower to do it myself
so basically this gamestate is fucked, I have no clue how to fix it, and I don't know if this town is savable at this stage in the first place
but I still believe that the gamestate is in a really shitty spot and that 90+% of the cause is that there are way too many players in this game that both believe they are in a TvT pair and that they should endgame-
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no it's not it's me being frustratedIn post 5992, Galron wrote:
This is scummy actuallyIn post 5983, Save The Dragons wrote:do you actually want to hear it or are you going to say i'm scum for it-
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Andante SheSurvivorShe
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well I'm not just gonna sit here and go "omg so scummy" to everything, I give my thoughts to stuff, I definitely still SR you so like, that hasn't changedIn post 5991, Save The Dragons wrote:
i'm missing where i'm mafia from this and not just wrong/badIn post 5988, Andante wrote:this game has been way too emotional for a handful of people, I'm not reading people off emotion... genuine emotion can go either way for anyone, town or maf-
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fire isn't town for the shitposts, it was the good posting from him that made me reconsider. i can pull up examples maybe shortlyIn post 5993, Andante wrote:Fire is leaving regardless, and if he doesn't leave by dance 2, I will be, lol not dealing with this for another dance, and how it was explained, sounds too stressful for me. you going "fire threatened to leave" like, he is?? sooo idk.
Fire is town for shitposts and I'm town for ATE? this game...-
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because you are confirmbiased and anything i say you're automatically scum reading and not thinking critically aboutIn post 5997, Andante wrote:well I'm not just gonna sit here and go "omg so scummy" to everything, I give my thoughts to stuff, I definitely still SR you so like, that hasn't changed
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