Actually worked through me/you and went a bit further.In post 2871, catboi wrote:?????In post 2853, Faker wrote:The wagon makeups say vote Sleepless but also I have seen scum bus in the absolute dumbest scenarios andhis recent content is better
Heavily considering voting flow trap
open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers
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and what is that?In post 2869, Something_Smart wrote:
No, I was actually kinda thinking the same way. It's dumb, but it's not as dumb as my reason for townreading midwaybear.In post 2825, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Is it bad to town read Norths dream?-
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I'm not disagreeing with you or IV. North didn't seem to get that catboi's comment was a tongue in cheek reference, so I explained.In post 2873, Sleepless Assassin wrote:
I mean sure it's something that can happen. But was North in a position to feel the need to do it?In post 2862, Faker wrote:The joke is that Mare faked a dream iirc-
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Why notIn post 2878, innocentvillager wrote:ok catboi ill give you that you're probably not scum with flow trap3-2 as scum and 5-8 as town
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My general belief is that passivity loses gamse as scum and I actively try to work against that The bottom line is simply that if I were scum I'd be actively playing toward a loss, as it is I just don't care lolIn post 2874, innocentvillager wrote:i mean surely you get uninterested as scum too and it was during holiday season anyway so good excuse to step away and come back i don't see how that's unbelievable
you've been a little follow-y at times yea? but also for example if town is on the wrong track i could see you taking this approach d1
but yeah idk ill keep this in mind for tomorrow or something and maybe we can cross check ur meta a little (assuming im alive lol)
Pretty sure the only vote I've actively sheeped is the sleepless one (although, again, my tendency is tonotdo this, so)-
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shrug, i sort of hate voting slots who are just not here. guess it'll be interesting to see if my dream reads really do work-
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Based on my data no scum has landed 3rd in the draft with a number lower than 8, in fact they have been pretty consistently high (8, 9, 10, 11). If this sounds like a bullshit statistical coincidence, that's because it is, but I think the logic makes at least a tiny amount of sense because based on the data when scum go for a medium-low number they often also go for a lower which might collide, but it if it does, the medium-low number is likely to score a very good place in the draft (higher than 3rd).In post 2876, innocentvillager wrote:and what is that?
Look, I warned you that it was dumb.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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2822 doesn't do much for me, the conclusion "one is pocketing the other" felt arbitrary and I didn't like the conditional add-on at the end of 2835 at all - feels like it's making a show of re-evaluating on a scumread that wasn't going anywhereIn post 2875, Faker wrote:
Actually worked through me/you and went a bit further.In post 2871, catboi wrote:
?????In post 2853, Faker wrote:The wagon makeups say vote Sleepless but also I have seen scum bus in the absolute dumbest scenarios andhis recent content is better
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yeah i was honestly like slightly pinged by that as well, i wouldn't say that last part if i was townIn post 2887, Faker wrote:Wait nope 2835 good point that last line reads poorly
BACK ON WE GO
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A lot of our point is that the line about how answering might flip the read felt very performative.In post 2888, Sleepless Assassin wrote:The read "wasn't going anywhere" because he hasn't been scummy since I got here real-time. I was already reconsidering. When I saw that he had the same thought as me, I read it open mindedly.-
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Thats why I just made a post with the actual reason for it.In post 2891, Faker wrote:
A lot of our point is that the line about how answering might flip the read felt very performative.In post 2888, Sleepless Assassin wrote:The read "wasn't going anywhere" because he hasn't been scummy since I got here real-time. I was already reconsidering. When I saw that he had the same thought as me, I read it open mindedly.3-2 as scum and 5-8 as town
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seems like too specific/not enough data for me to materially change my read but fair enough, interestingIn post 2883, Something_Smart wrote:
Based on my data no scum has landed 3rd in the draft with a number lower than 8, in fact they have been pretty consistently high (8, 9, 10, 11). If this sounds like a bullshit statistical coincidence, that's because it is, but I think the logic makes at least a tiny amount of sense because based on the data when scum go for a medium-low number they often also go for a lower which might collide, but it if it does, the medium-low number is likely to score a very good place in the draft (higher than 3rd).In post 2876, innocentvillager wrote:and what is that?
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Well either you believe me or you don't.In post 2895, Faker wrote:And that post was exactly why I made the sharper one. The initial felt like it addressed the "not moving" part exclusively.
So all I can say is
Nuh uh3-2 as scum and 5-8 as town
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It's the middle of the day so my kids are awake. I'm far from a close observerIn post 2896, Faker wrote:A close observer might note I quoted the post, meaning I still felt it unaddressed within that context.3-2 as scum and 5-8 as town
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something like this probably:In post 2884, Faker wrote:North can you give a quick readslist, maybe brief summary or the linestyle I do?
Unless you agree with Datisi that it is antitown or just want to make me lose a few hairs to mild mald
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{andante, mare}
{IV, skitter, SS, faker}
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{midway, cakez}
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it's hard to defend someone who just isn't here and who is most of the time nigh-unreadable, and i only have so much energy when it comes to hardcore tunneling sleepless (and i think that only so much talking is actually that effective, it hits its limit and then becomes counter-effective if you overdo it). i was advocating in my own from the other day by just straight up asking people to vote with me (which i find is surprisingly effective) and by questioning everyone's reasons for voting another wagon. that being said, i do appreciate that people have started to notice how much of like the last forty posts he's made have all just been random like self-preservation snipes, so maybe later i'll try to point that out a bit more clearly.In post 2885, Faker wrote:Also just kind of curious why you haven't advocated a Sleepless vote a bit more doggedly
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