And you're questioning us wanting more than 3 townreads atp?In post 466, implosion wrote:I very desperately want to call Shirou super town but I feel like he's the kind of slot that I incorrectly townread sometimes.
I like tejate/ceph/nQ/ydrasse for town so far.
eh I don't really scum read you at all though kkkkkIn post 469, fua wrote:And yes, that’s AtE. Go ahead and scumread me for it. I love manipulating people’s emotions and coming up with bullshit.
"This is the kind of speech a villian of the week gives to the member of the heros party to convince them to pick up the idiot ball and do something really stupid to further the big bad's goals" was me specific thought.In post 463, implosion wrote:Also I have absolutely no idea what "clang" is supposed to mean. My guess is it's negative because I think that one post of mine was pretty bad (it wasn't really intended to be good i was mostly annoyed for, really, similar reasons to what shirou just outlined)
In post 473, fua wrote:I do partially accept your apology, but I also think it was REALLY uncalled for and felt like a personal insult rather than just commentary on in-game habits. I would be lying if that sort of approach didn’t kind of demotivate me from offering my opinion on matters.
Sorry again...In post 474, fua wrote:Like. This is literally just how I play.
Spayhalf used that word. My very initial call to attention about it in our hydra chat was something to the effect of Alarm klaxons sounding on 428.In post 478, Tejate Raichu wrote:I kind of want to know what clang is supposed to mean too, actually.
LOUD ping.In post 478, Tejate Raichu wrote:I kind of want to know what clang is supposed to mean too, actually.
It's alright. I respect that you apologized. I will say that you almost certainly don't know who I am, but I forgive you for saying it and I can understand where you're coming from. I'm going to take a backseat for now since I've hogged too much of the thread, but thank you for being willing to at least listen.In post 479, Shirou wrote:In post 473, fua wrote:I do partially accept your apology, but I also think it was REALLY uncalled for and felt like a personal insult rather than just commentary on in-game habits. I would be lying if that sort of approach didn’t kind of demotivate me from offering my opinion on matters.Sorry again...In post 474, fua wrote:Like. This is literally just how I play.
If it makes it any better, even though I would probably kinda skim over if I felt like you got in a heated discussion that you would simply be acting too defensively, I would still nonetheless pay attention later on to your reads and the justification for that. Just not while you were in that heated arguing phase.
I don't want to mention the name of that player, but there's a rather popular player that...kinda...plays like that as well, and I do really respect them and would be very much inclined to sheep them if they felt confident in a scum read/town read, it's just that when they get into that kind of argument, I know I'll end up exhausting if I try to follow up on it.
I'm kinda having a bad day with my poor gacha luck and other stuff, so a bit of that may have leaked out in that post early, but please don't feel like as if I want you to stop playing or anything, I think I could have phrased that better because my intention was to say "I think fua right now is feeling defensive regardless of alignment and this is likely not a productive discussion, so I recommend we move on and if perhaps that kind of discussion sparks with me as one of the members, don't be weirded out when I don't engage it".
it's ridiculous!In post 482, morph the cat wrote:So as I pray, unlimited wallet works.In post 479, Shirou wrote:poor gacha luck
thanks, I'll also probably take a backseat for a bit now, Tejate/you already answered all the doubts I had about the posted content.In post 483, fua wrote:It's alright. I respect that you apologized. I will say that you almost certainly don't know who I am, but I forgive you for saying it and I can understand where you're coming from. I'm going to take a backseat for now since I've hogged too much of the thread, but thank you for being willing to at least listen.
I just realized that I should one day do a gacha setup where you can roll for players from the forum and gain abilities.In post 485, Tejate Raichu wrote:Mafia is kind of like a gacha game, if you think about it.
Ive ran both fire emblem heroes and fate grand order in a roll for your abilities style before and they were well received yeah.In post 486, Shirou wrote:I just realized that I should one day do a gacha setup where you can roll for players from the forum and gain abilities.
This is not a direct comparison; I'm perfectly happy with the number of reads I have at this point. I'm specifically unhappy with not being able to trust myself on Shirou.In post 475, morph the cat wrote:And you're questioning us wanting more than 3 townreads atp?In post 466, implosion wrote:I very desperately want to call Shirou super town but I feel like he's the kind of slot that I incorrectly townread sometimes.
I like tejate/ceph/nQ/ydrasse for town so far.
There's very little intersection in our reads atm. Hmm.
Missed this, I think it's entirely personality and not really strongly readable. If it does swing one way it's probably a little townish at this point but I don't think it's near enough to be confident.In post 439, GuiltyLion wrote:do you think the "acerbic"ity is scummy? I'm townreading it, I don't know if scum!fua would be this aggressive if they knew they were full of shit, I am getting a vibe that they're just a defensive personIn post 436, implosion wrote:that's... not even close to what i'm saying? my point is you seem especially acerbic toward people that have expressed suspicion of you. I literally asked you one question and then emptyvoted you and you're calling me your tied biggest scumread and speculating about who I'm scum with. It seems like a bit of an overreaction.In post 430, fua wrote:I mean, several other people in this game have said that it’s understandable if people scumread them for (X) reason. So if your point is that town always thinks that reasoning against them is bad then that’s clearly not true and also a weak argument to begin with.In post 428, implosion wrote:fua have you ever seen someone vote or fos you and go “gosh, I’m town but their reasoning here sure is solid”?
Do you think the interactions between me and Ceph that resulted from this accusation are AI at all?In post 366, Tejate Raichu wrote:Do not like this post. At all. I understand trying to read intent through wording, but what about Ceph's wording here was weird? Even I admit that I was shooting myself in the foot last night by letting LAMIST slip through more than actual town play. It was hardly a push, let alone an argument, so why is this perceived as AI?In post 273, numberQ wrote:The interaction between Tejate and Ceph from 238 on is pinging me. 238 itself does strike me as a lot of nothing thatcouldbe scum indicative. Ceph calling him out on it though, for some reason I didn't like it even though I generally agreed with the sentiment. And overall I feel like Tejate is coming out of that back and forth looking towny, and Ceph null-scum.
239 and 243 are not the kind of push I expect scum to give their buddy. It's such a ridiculous argument imo, to call someone out for putting their thoughts in the thread. And then your 244, particularly you apologizing if you're coming off as scum trying to seem active - I do not think that's scum talking to scum. Ceph never actually used those words, you conjured up that "scum trying to seem active" phrase yourself. I'm trying to picture scum read their buddy call them out the way Ceph did, and then thinking to themselves that putting those words in their buddy's mouth is a good idea. I just can't see it.Again, I'm not sure what gives nQ the impression that it's not S/S? Like, yes, statistically speaking if you take any two random players the chances of it being two scum are low, but what exactly is giving them this impression that a scum!Ceph means that town!Me is likely? Once again, I would like to emphasize that so far myself and Ceph have barely interacted, and our interaction so far was mainly because we both happened to be on the thread at the same time. As much as I'd love to take this townread and go, this argument genuinely pings me as strange. I wouldIn post 323, numberQ wrote:I want to TR Tejate because he does seem earnest. Plus I don't see S/S in Tejate + Ceph, and currently I like Ceph for scum. But I feel like Tejate isn't, I don't know, rocking the boat at all? I guess you don't have to do that to be town, but when I read most of his posts it feels kind of narrow and flat. I'm not seeing anything that makes me think "oh yeah, he's trying to pursue lines of thought and look for new angles to solve from".
Should probably re-ISO him but I'm out of time tonight, likely won't be on again until tomorrow.reallylike some elaboration.
I feel like you're glossing over some reads that should be fairly easy to make, though. And I'm always going to raise an eyebrow at ceph getting early townreads from players with your level of experience. I'm not scumreading him but I've seen nothing from him that would remotely make me comfortable he's town at this point.In post 489, implosion wrote:This is not a direct comparison; I'm perfectly happy with the number of reads I have at this point. I'm specifically unhappy with not being able to trust myself on Shirou.In post 475, morph the cat wrote:And you're questioning us wanting more than 3 townreads atp?In post 466, implosion wrote:I very desperately want to call Shirou super town but I feel like he's the kind of slot that I incorrectly townread sometimes.
I like tejate/ceph/nQ/ydrasse for town so far.
There's very little intersection in our reads atm. Hmm.
Regarding little intersection I assume part of that is because you're locktowning Amazons (and I'd imagine you probably are okay with other people not individually having the capacity to locktown them at this point) and at that point the expected amount of overlap between 2 people and 4 people is pretty low.
You two haven't played recently? Anything since dedede? Which probably shouldn't count toward his ability to read you since he was scum in that game.In post 494, Cephrir wrote:"experience" and "experience with me" are different animals
I don't hate this response. The reason I poked at it is because self-aware accusations are common easy tactics that scum use to scum read people with. It's typically a rather shallow reason to scum read people for especially considering it's more personality based than alignment based and some people are more self-aware as town than scum.In post 259, fua wrote:It’s the open acknowledgment of self-awareness coupled with his LAMIST attitude and admission of uselessness that made me suspicious of him to begin with. The part I quoted in particular stands out as pretty odd to me.