Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]


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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:05 am

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In post 746, Shirou wrote:
In post 742, morph the cat wrote:
In post 738, Shirou wrote:Ah, also I guess unless they're scum together (which wouldn't be that weird considering their openings), I should probably trust Morph read on Amazon for now. Even if they were wrong on it at the moment, as long as they are alive they will likely correctly sort out Amazon correctly. If they die...well, we can cross that bridge when we get there.
For what it's worth, it's a very high confidence read for us. I'll be very surprised if they leave our "Utterly Town, never elim this" pile. We'd love to have 4 more reads of that strength, or even four more in that plus the second tier combined before the day ends.

fua's headed in that direction.
if you're that confident about it I'm happy there's one less slot to sort, but on hindsight it kinda also means if they are proved to be scum later on, we probably should scum read you for having the complete opposite of a good read on them.

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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:06 am

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maybe you'd have made more of a show of it? hm
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:07 am

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yes good go retreat to your hydra lair to discuss how to handle an UPPITY cephrir

that's right the peasants are getting UPPITY
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:15 am

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In post 747, Cephrir wrote:
In post 745, morph the cat wrote:
In post 741, Cephrir wrote:morph/amazon are both underwhelming and could both be scum. come at me.

but i have a lot of fish to fry. maybe i should try harder to fry them since morph doesn't seem to be doing that for me.
To quote Cobra Kai, you're a towel.

Maybe you're a town towel, but I have an awful lot of memories of scum-you casting various aspersions on me/my hydrae over the years.
yet you also get leery if i townbin you! my recollection is that i usually townbin you (ffery) as scum. but it's not solely because suspecting you is a waste of time

i've given you time but it's been 30 pages and i'm still decidedly whelmed
Xenosaga day 1 probably looms largest in my memory. That was Sangres, but I was the active head for most of the game. In the referenced dedede game it was at least a few game days before you were townreading us. That was an easy game for us because Tammy towntold your hydra slot before she left you holding the bag at the end of day 1.

fwiw open setups are neither of our cups a tea, and this player list is also mostly off our beaten paths. I'm more interested in observing than in making huge waves atm. Despite griping, I'm not unhappy with 3 (probably 4 because I imagine Cabd's going to agree with me re fua in our next discussion) in my top two tiers.

And I kinda doubt we get through enough nights to be on anyone's mega-worry list on day 1.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:17 am

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In post 750, fua wrote:
In post 746, Shirou wrote:
In post 742, morph the cat wrote:
In post 738, Shirou wrote:Ah, also I guess unless they're scum together (which wouldn't be that weird considering their openings), I should probably trust Morph read on Amazon for now. Even if they were wrong on it at the moment, as long as they are alive they will likely correctly sort out Amazon correctly. If they die...well, we can cross that bridge when we get there.
For what it's worth, it's a very high confidence read for us. I'll be very surprised if they leave our "Utterly Town, never elim this" pile. We'd love to have 4 more reads of that strength, or even four more in that plus the second tier combined before the day ends.

fua's headed in that direction.
if you're that confident about it I'm happy there's one less slot to sort, but on hindsight it kinda also means if they are proved to be scum later on, we probably should scum read you for having the complete opposite of a good read on them.

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You'll be happy to know I'm not scum and the point is that there's indeed one less slot to sort.
Eh...this isn-...nvm.
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:18 am

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In post 752, Cephrir wrote:yes good go retreat to your hydra lair to discuss how to handle an UPPITY cephrir

that's right the peasants are getting UPPITY
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:22 am

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I'm gonna agree a bit with Ceph here that I was kinda expecting spicier stuff from Amazon/Morph, but a good part of their play especially Amazon's has been dancing around Morph. It's understandable but a bit underwhelming for the rest of us.

However, in regards to Morph, the reason I'm not that bothered by it yet is because I feel that their content being somewhat underwhelming is a
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of the game's content itself being kinda underwhelming so far. Doesn't really feel like it's already a 30 page game even though it is.
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:24 am

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how should we make it Whelming

i feel like there’s some slots that are thumb twiddling a bit and we could wait on them but also

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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:25 am

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ceph also gets a little handful of townpoints

i don’t think that it’s a s/s dance because amazon’s posting when around was decent but it’s a weird dance
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:28 am

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high quality ceph posting.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:29 am

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I’m not actively suspicious of Amazons but I sure do remember townbinning Tammy very quickly in every game I played with her way back when.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:30 am

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Though like ceph said memory might be lying. I am more concerned about morph rn of course.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:32 am

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In post 718, Ydrasse wrote:also @numberq i was correlating 270 + 509 as scumreading because you were like vibing with the vote on shirou and then the language u used was doubtful (not buying) vs just like questioning

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Yeah I can see what you're seeing in those posts. All I can say is I didn't SR him at those times, and was more poking at something I didn't understand to see if I
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At the moment I think he's in the top half of my reads list. I still want to go back and try and grok his interaction with Tejate, but regardless of that I think the way he reacted to my questioning of him over it was more town than not. It was consistent and had a clear thought process behind it, at least.
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In post 738, Shirou wrote:Ah, also I guess unless they're scum together (which wouldn't be that weird considering their openings), I should probably trust Morph read on Amazon for now. Even if they were wrong on it at the moment, as long as they are alive they will likely correctly sort out Amazon correctly. If they die...well, we can cross that bridge when we get there.
For what it's worth, it's a very high confidence read for us. I'll be very surprised if they leave our "Utterly Town, never elim this" pile. We'd love to have 4 more reads of that strength, or even four more in that plus the second tier combined before the day ends.

fua's headed in that direction.
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Can you elaborate on your high conf TR here? Skimmed your ISO but I don't think I saw anything to this effect, and based on your familiarity with each other I suspect it's mostly meta.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:33 am

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I can't go in-depth on why but I'm actually reconsidering Tejate at the moment.

He's back to the "I want to see more from" pool except this time I think I can sort him better than the almost coin-flip read I had on him up to now (part of me before thinking he was towny for X and the other one thinking he was scummy for Y).
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:33 am

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In post 755, morph the cat wrote:
In post 752, Cephrir wrote:yes good go retreat to your hydra lair to discuss how to handle an UPPITY cephrir

that's right the peasants are getting UPPITY
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:35 am

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Amazon consists of one person who's in back to school mode as a college instructor and the other is going back to work after a couple weeks off.

Despite that, I really can't overemphasize how strong that read is. We are both townreading Tammy, and I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be that certain that quickly if she were scum here.

And neuterhalf's townread of peng is in the stratosphere. I think I would be townreading her on my own, but I doubt I'm capable of being
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:36 am

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i don't suppose you have any interest in sharing the reasons for that with the class
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:39 am

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In post 762, numberQ wrote:Can you elaborate on your high conf TR here? Skimmed your ISO but I don't think I saw anything to this effect, and based on your familiarity with each other I suspect it's mostly meta.
It is mostly meta, and a lot of it is classified because we generally don't go into details about meta reads unless we're willing to burn a meta tell. That's particularly true of neuterhalf.

Anyway, I'm done talking about that townread. Those of you not townreading them, you can at least take that read to the bank in the event our alignment becomes a known thing in this game.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:40 am

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In post 766, Cephrir wrote:i don't suppose you have any interest in sharing the reasons for that with the class
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:41 am

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I feel bad about even entertaining scum!ydrasse

she defended me and all...

hm, am I too soft? maybe.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:41 am

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though I think there are a couple of pointers in our iso the discerning can find.
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:42 am

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In post 769, Shirou wrote:I feel bad about even entertaining scum!ydrasse

she defended me and all...

hm, am I too soft? maybe.
i would mercilessly pocket you with sweet nothings and smile all the while :D
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:42 am

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I'd be annoyed but it's not like there's a shortage of viable scum candidates atm.

Ceph, where's your GL scumlean coming from?
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:45 am

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In post 771, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 769, Shirou wrote:I feel bad about even entertaining scum!ydrasse

she defended me and all...

hm, am I too soft? maybe.
i would mercilessly pocket you with sweet nothings and smile all the while :D
I see

so this is what being pocketed potentially feels like hm, it's been awhile.

it's making me remember my newbie game against scum!GL where I had to doublecheck the mod revealing he was scum.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:46 am

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@numberq i chew on your reply
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