Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]


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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:33 am

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I'll listen if they disagree, but I've come around to a townlean on ceph.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:35 am

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@Imaginality

In post 947, morph the cat wrote:
In post 938, imaginality wrote:
In post 763, Shirou wrote:I can't go in-depth on why but I'm actually reconsidering Tejate at the moment.

He's back to the "I want to see more from" pool except this time I think I can sort him better than the almost coin-flip read I had on him up to now (part of me before thinking he was towny for X and the other one thinking he was scummy for Y).
I see he's made a dozen or so posts since then. Are you still mid-reconsideration or have you come to a conclusion (for now)?
How are your reads from your first list holding up?
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:44 am

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If you guys stop forcefully engaging Imaginality I think I can read him over the course of the day

I don't think that asking lots of stuff to low activity posters is something positive in
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70 ~ 80% of the cases. What they decide to reply and post if no one is giving them directions in-thread (like with minor questions, etc), is a rather important form of reading them I believe.
"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."

"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"
~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"
~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:46 am

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For instance he was about to do something I consider truly AI but people forcing him to engage them ruined it. Of course this is only more or less a suggestion, feel free to disregard it if you want I guess, perhaps I'll end up misreading him either way.
"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."

"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"
~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"
~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
(Aka Volpe14)
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:47 am

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Yes I meant that I found morph offputting and I know why because I've explained why.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:53 am

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In post 977, Shirou wrote:If you guys stop forcefully engaging Imaginality I think I can read him over the course of the day

I don't think that asking lots of stuff to low activity posters is something positive in
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70 ~ 80% of the cases. What they decide to reply and post if no one is giving them directions in-thread (like with minor questions, etc), is a rather important form of reading them I believe.
I think this is an unrealistic expectation of other players who are also trying to sort him.
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:14 am

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yeah I guess

maybe nevermind
"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."

"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"
~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"
~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:34 am

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In post 933, Shirou wrote: I'm not town leaning the slot but I don't think their content are as bad as their entrance.
did I just get shirou to null me by memeing
is dumb blonde my new meta
embarrassing

@amazonian saw your questions, I'll see what I can scrape up after work. Ig at least some thoughts-under-heavy-construction are about due
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:53 am

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In post 727, implosion wrote:I'm quite confident that if I had drawn scum here, 2017 meta would be not among the best indicators of how I'd play.
I'm finding one scum game of yours since the dedede game. Is that right or am I overlooking some?
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:56 am

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I'll say that I didn't expect my one (1) game with fua to be helpful but page 16 is telling me everyone would benefit from skimming one of their town games if one is studying-inclined
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:57 am

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In post 984, redtea wrote:I'll say that I didn't expect my one (1) game with fua to be helpful but page 16 is telling me everyone would benefit from skimming one of their town games if one is studying-inclined
How are you leaning re fua on page 16? and which town game are you referencing?
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:58 am

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I will be on V/LA for a few days, have some family stuff that's making it impossible to think about Mafia right now.
Hey!
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:12 am

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In post 982, redtea wrote:
In post 933, Shirou wrote: I'm not town leaning the slot but I don't think their content are as bad as their entrance.
did I just get shirou to null me by memeing
is dumb blonde my new meta
embarrassing

@amazonian saw your questions, I'll see what I can scrape up after work. Ig at least some thoughts-under-heavy-construction are about due
All things considered, I think there are worse metas you could have.
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:15 am

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Also, I'm still very curious why Shirou hasn't come to a conclusion on my slot yet? I'm not sure I really understand what lines he's waiting to read between at this point, I feel like I've produced a fair amount of content for a basic day 1 read.
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:17 am

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In post 956, fua wrote:Current Readslist:

Town/Townlean:
Shirou
Morph (I feel a little more confident about placing them now.)
Ydrasse

Townbinned:
Amazons (Will come back to them later.)

Neutral:
NumberQ
GL

Scumlean/Scum:
Implosion?
Cephrir
Tejate

Inactive (Under 20 posts):
NSG
Redtea
Imaginality
Speaking of players who have read me, what exactly makes you feel comfortable putting morph in town at this point? I still need to consider the hydras myself.
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:18 am

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I originally had them in townbin, but with their amount of content and the fact that I agree with multiple of their opinions I feel comfortable putting them in town until further notice depending on future flips.
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:32 am

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I like that answer a lot less than some of your other posts. You clearly understand that merely being active does not equal town if you're putting me among your scummiest slots. And mere agreement has never been enough for me to townread someone. Town is often wrong, and scum loves to exploit that. Are you sure that's it for townbinning morph?
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:42 am

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What Tejate said. And Morph is a very dangerous scum player. They deserve more wariness that 990 seems to indicate you're affording them, and I believe they would agree with this.
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:53 am

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In post 992, Cephrir wrote:What Tejate said. And Morph is a very dangerous scum player. They deserve more wariness that 990 seems to indicate you're affording them, and I believe they would agree with this.
I agree that half of Morph is a very dangerous scum player!

Pooky would agree with your statement fully though (Cabd pays him to big up my scum game).
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:53 am

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In post 991, Tejate Raichu wrote:I like that answer a lot less than some of your other posts. You clearly understand that merely being active does not equal town if you're putting me among your scummiest slots. And mere agreement has never been enough for me to townread someone. Town is often wrong, and scum loves to exploit that. Are you sure that's it for townbinning morph?
Activity means more opportunities to read them and trace their footprints in the future. A similar thought process is ideal to me because I know I'm townie and for someone to be thinking the same thing without being prompted means that they're following a similar line of logic to the one I am. Also, I wouldn't know because I don't know their meta. Luckily we have 4-6 cops to determine alignment if you're feeling antsy.
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:54 am

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In post 993, morph the cat wrote:
In post 992, Cephrir wrote:What Tejate said. And Morph is a very dangerous scum player. They deserve more wariness that 990 seems to indicate you're affording them, and I believe they would agree with this.
I agree that half of Morph is a very dangerous scum player!

Pooky would agree with your statement fully though (Cabd pays him to big up my scum game).
What I've skimmed of your scum game instilled fear in me.
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:55 am

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Their line of logic is less likely to be exploitation (from my POV) because they aren't really going for the low-hanging fruit or avoiding bringing new ideas to the table.
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:56 am

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and your scumreads are doing those things??
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:59 am

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In post 995, Cephrir wrote:
In post 993, morph the cat wrote:
In post 992, Cephrir wrote:What Tejate said. And Morph is a very dangerous scum player. They deserve more wariness that 990 seems to indicate you're affording them, and I believe they would agree with this.
I agree that half of Morph is a very dangerous scum player!

Pooky would agree with your statement fully though (Cabd pays him to big up my scum game).
What I've skimmed of your scum game instilled fear in me.
If true, then I think it says more about your towngame than about my scumgame.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:05 am

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In post 983, morph the cat wrote:
In post 727, implosion wrote:I'm quite confident that if I had drawn scum here, 2017 meta would be not among the best indicators of how I'd play.
I'm finding one scum game of yours since the dedede game. Is that right or am I overlooking some?
This
feels
extremely false but i have only found one (guns n roses) though i haven't looked very hard. To be frank I really can't accurately chronologize my recent games given, y'know, time is fake lately - it certainly doesn't
feel
like I've only played one scum game in the past 4+ years though.

I might just not really know how I'd play if I drew mafia at this point.

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