Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]


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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:02 pm

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I wasn't the one to heal yesterday's night

so

popcorn to the next person?
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:04 pm

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In post 1758, morph the cat wrote:I see differences. I'm not sure if they can be chalked up to replacing in vs playing from the start.
yeah

if that newbie is finished, that is one of the things that were bugging me about Tejate yesterday
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:06 pm

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I dunno if I should keep pushing my reads today again though

imaginality flipping town perhaps is a sign I need to talk less and listen more in this game but...dunno if I'll actually do that
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:07 pm

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Oh that's right, I guess I'm going to get involved in meta discussion on my own slot today huh. Well, I'll be happy to respond to any questions you guys have about 2085.

How many scum do you guys think were on imaginality's wagon? I can't imagine none of them went for such an easy mis-elim.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:09 pm

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by "pushing my reads" I meant "pushing as hard as yesterday" of course

basically I don't know if me trying to direct wagons or the flow of the thread is a good thing atm given my reads/mindset in this game are yet to be proved correct on anything.

Still can the n1 doctor claim? I want to know who is the potential confirmed townie, although there may be more than two n1 doctors I guess...

p-edit: lol?
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:15 pm

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The N1 doc(s) might be offline. Hopefully when they post we can get some real discussion going. In the meantime, we may as well get this meta read show started since it's going to come up sooner or later.

What issues do you have with this game vs 2085?
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:15 pm

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Above post is directed at Shirou and morph.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:18 pm

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Tejate I think it's again really scummy that you seemed to purposefully stay out of the wagon by the end and now is implying we need to eliminate/look at someone in the wagon.

but /shrug

I guess it's not an unreasonable opinion to have from your pov. In my opinion though there's in fact a very good probability that not ALL of scum piled onto imaginality considering how much we had to wait for a hammer later on. That moment of apathy to me now read as if they knew imaginality was a miselimination that would probably happen anyway so they wanted to stay out of it to not dirty their hands. There may or not be 2 scum in the Imaginality wagon, but I confidently think there's at least one scum out of Imaginality's wagon, and the pool of people out of it is smaller than the people in, especially when I do personally factor Amazon as likely town due to my explanation yesterday.

Therefore...I kinda think both by the analysis above and by my own reads, that there's likely one scum in Tejate/NumberQ/Meg/Redtea.

Yes I'm including redtea there because I didn't like the fact they hesitated so much to just vote Imaginality with us even when we were at 72 hours until deadline or less. I still think the wagonomics yesterday may make more sense if both redtea and imaginality are town though...hm, not sure.

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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:18 pm

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In post 1763, Amazonian Legends wrote:
In post 1759, Amazonian Legends wrote:I'm less bored now. Let's try this. Next post, folks, give us your GTH (gun-to-head) fua reads.

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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:19 pm

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In post 1780, Tejate Raichu wrote:What issues do you have with this game vs 2085?
kinda...everything I said yesterday

like, basically I expected you to be more of the main cast of the game rather than a supporting character as you feel right now, because in the small amount of time you spent on newbie 2085 as town, that's the feeling I got from you there.
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:24 pm

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In post 1783, Amazonian Legends wrote:
In post 1763, Amazonian Legends wrote:
In post 1759, Amazonian Legends wrote:I'm less bored now. Let's try this. Next post, folks, give us your GTH (gun-to-head) fua reads.

--PA
huh, I kinda saw this but didn't think you would be this insistent

my opinion about fua is...hm, meh town? kkkkk

it's the same read I had on they yesterday. I think they are more likely town than not for the cop claim, but even more important than that, I think it's important for me to have this kind of read on they for the moment.

I can explain more later if I'm still alive.
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:26 pm

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eh, I can kinda see what Amazon may or not be doing here. I think I should just let them do it on their own for now rather than potentially spill the beans though.

I'm only posting this just to point something out if it turns out to be the case later.
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:36 pm

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That's fair, I suppose. I do usually prefer to take on an active role in my games. Not necessarily the very nearly town-leaderly role I took in that game, but I do generally dislike just sitting in the corner and twiddling my thumbs. So far in this game I don't feel like this town really demands that kind of play out of me, and I don't really feel like I'm in the best of positions to play as such, though I can see why you would suspect me for that.

While that's the only forum game I can (now) refer to, I will also repeat myself once again that my energy level waxes and wanes, and as such so does my activity and quality of play. More often than not that is a bigger factor for my playstyle than my actual role PM, granted it's not really pro-town so unfortunately I do see your point, and I probably wouldn't trust this claim if I was on the other end. Usually, in shorter sessions, I don't really have posts that are in completely different mindsets just because it's so short. Here, my posts have been a bit all over the place in terms of actual quality.

Also, I wasn't necessarily saying we should only look at imaginality wagon today. This situation is very different from my proposal in 2085, and in fact I actually AGREE with you. We probably don't find all 3 scum on that wagon. Of course, that naturally makes me very high on the suspect list due to that shoddy unvote. I understand that and will just have to accept the consequences of my actions.
In post 1782, Shirou wrote:Therefore...I kinda think both by the analysis above and by my own reads, that there's likely one scum in Tejate/NumberQ/Meg/Redtea.
I like this post and agree with this proposal, actually.
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:43 pm

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i am not a night one doctor and i still think fua is town.
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:45 pm

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The dynamics of whether scum are likely to have been on the imag wagon depend a lot on redtea's alignment; if redtea is town then it's not like scum were at any real risk yesterday and they probably would have voted more for looking town than for caring who got elimmed.
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:52 pm

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Agree that a night one cop who targeted redtea is outright worth claiming the inno here for the data if nothing else.

I think Mafia is doing the quote unquote keep it simple stupid plays here and I expect to see that borne out today.
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:52 pm

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Okay so penguin got enough people to answer her question.

We healed fua last night.
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:53 pm

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In post 1791, Amazonian Legends wrote:Okay so penguin got enough people to answer her question.

We healed fua last night.
Yeah as was literally obvious by the sheer smugness in her first post.

It's why I called fua locktown.
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:54 pm

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In post 1792, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1791, Amazonian Legends wrote:Okay so penguin got enough people to answer her question.

We healed fua last night.
Yeah as was literally obvious by the sheer smugness in her first post.

It's why I called fua locktown.
Yeah I figured you guys would know that lol
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:54 pm

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In post 1754, Amazonian Legends wrote:Aw yeah.

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Like come on subtlety is deadass not happening when you post like this!
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:55 pm

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Also that's why I said Mafia made the easy braindead play to try and kill the cop claim instead of something fancier*

*Discounting the one in a hundred chance a fua scumteam got fucking fancy last night.
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:56 pm

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In post 1779, Shirou wrote:although there may be
more than two
n1 doctors I guess...
Now that amazoness CEO has claimed to be beautiful explain the shit out of this line because uhhhhh
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:57 pm

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Yeah no kills exist but I’d be surprised plus Fua’s reaction to penguins question reads like she thought that was a cop clear. Can be faked to as well but I don’t think so.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:57 pm

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Yeah one in a hundred is generous closer to 1 in a thousand but eh.
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:58 pm

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In post 1797, Amazonian Legends wrote:Yeah no kills exist but I’d be surprised plus Fua’s reaction to penguins question reads like
she
they thought that was a cop clear. Can be faked to as well but I don’t think so.

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