Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]

[GuiltyLion]

I'm also saying I'm ok with killing redtea due to apathy and the fact he could still kinda be your buddy.

You're so hung up on redtea when I'm saying basically "whatever, kill them". Like, if you guys want, kill them? I don't care that much even if it wasn't my preference to how today should go.

You want to frame this as if I'm doing all this to protect redtea when I'M NOT, I'm doing this to increase the odds of killing your slot GL, without me needing to spend one entire week here hyperposting and casing you.

bro you unvoted redtea and tried to use your claim to bully the town into limming elsewhere or no limming today

if you don't care about redtea, let's flip them

[GuiltyLion]

We're not townreading redtea? We declared intent ffs.

ok, I guess I don't understand the point of your question

why do you want me to towncase myself right now?

[Shirou]

the idea that you're willing to bet the game on me being scum without knowing redtea's alignment is just so contrived

See? this?

You're also trying to tie your alignment to redtea.

EVEN IF REDTEA IS SCUM I THINK YOU JUST BUSSED.

Redtea is such a fucking OBVIOUS BUS, and I believe at least implo is town, so the play here would be to do redtea and shade me/implo to get two mislims later.

I'm trying to kill you here EVEN IF REDTEA IS SCUM, because I find your posts/engagement towards me and implo disingenuous.

I just THINK that redtea is more likely town than not due to how you're pushing them, but more importantly, I think you're scum in almost all scenarios in this game so I'm kinda just gambling on it

/shrug

[Cephrir]

there's something i want to wait for.

my trap card has been activated. the thing i wanted to wait for was meg posting again following the influx of votes, because they had posted this

turbo eliminations are always bad especially when there's a decent chance at least one person will have a cop result tomorrow

thank you for coming to my TED talk

I've seen mechsolved games lost by quick elims this isn't happening again

they have come through with the following

redtea flip gives good info
tejate flip gives good info

redtea is scummier than tejate

ergo kill redtea

yikes fam

[GuiltyLion]

ok, well help me bus redtea and let's revisit D3

p-edit: I kinda thought Meg's post was obviously about the idea of turbolimming on D3?

[GuiltyLion]

Redtea is such a fucking OBVIOUS BUS,

you literally just said redtea was town btw lol

[GuiltyLion]

IF they flip town though, we also should turbo eliminate one of GL/Meg/Tejate tomorrow imo.

Meg was responding to this

[Amazonian Legends]

turbo eliminations are always bad especially when there's a decent chance at least one person will have a cop result tomorrow

thank you for coming to my TED talk

redtea flip gives good info
tejate flip gives good info

redtea is scummier than tejate

ergo kill redtea

?

Lol ceph. We were bothered by the same thing.

[Enchant]

the idea that you're willing to bet the game on me being scum without knowing redtea's alignment is just so contrived

See? this?

You're also trying to tie your alignment to redtea.

EVEN IF REDTEA IS SCUM I THINK YOU JUST BUSSED.

Redtea is such a fucking OBVIOUS BUS, and I believe at least implo is town, so the play here would be to do redtea and shade me/implo to get two mislims later.

I'm trying to kill you here EVEN IF REDTEA IS SCUM, because I find your posts/engagement towards me and implo disingenuous.

I just THINK that redtea is more likely town than not due to how you're pushing them, but more importantly, I think you're scum in almost all scenarios in this game so I'm kinda just gambling on it

/shrug

Aren't it makes sense to kill Red then anyway even if bus.

[Enchant]

Like what logic you use.

[Amazonian Legends]

Oh

[Cephrir]

I literally do not think anyone was suggesting that but yourself.

yeah, this... i don't know where ydra got the idea we were even contemplating this and i thought the victim complex about it was pretty strange

[GuiltyLion]

The reason I'm doing this is because

it was obvious from today that if you're scum, redtea is likely town

and you're already setting up implo/me for miseliminations, and if I claim cop there, you would say it's simply a desperation move to buy a no elimination day.

Redtea is such a fucking OBVIOUS BUS

, and I believe at least implo is town, so the play here would be to do redtea and shade me/implo to get two mislims later.

lmfao

[Tejate Raichu]

Well, I have a few hours left I can be here. My vote isn't moving, but I'll still be around to discuss for a couple hours.

[Enchant]

Well, I have a few hours left I can be here. My vote isn't moving, but I'll still be around to discuss for a couple hours.

You can start

[Shirou]

like stop bringing up redtea

whatever kill them don't kill them

I just think you're scum, and if you're town you would miseliminate me anyway GL, so what I'm doing is trying to claim to:

1) Either get NK'd and confirm my slot.

2) Get me result on you and either confirm you as scum or as town.

I dunno if you guys respect my scum game or not, and I don't care if you do or not, but if I had to say one of my tools as scum is kinda ~sensing~ what slots are gonna be eliminated or not. I just feel like tomorrow if we kept going in that road was gonna be people voting either me or implo tomorrow, and people not believing my claim that I'm a cop if it was when I was brought to E-1.

Sure, maybe I'm wrong and tomorrow would have played differently, but I don't want to RISK it. I'm trying to make it an almost guarantee that either I'll not be a miselimination by NK, or even if I'm miseliminated, I'm gonna be able to get my result.

Why claim today now and not tomorrow?

MOMENTUM!

It's a really dumb thing but many town PRs are killed thoughtlessly even if it doesn't sound optimal because they wait to claim at E-1 and by then people are really confident they're scum trying to save their own skins.

If I waited until a E-1 to claim my role, the narrative would be I'm trying to do all I can to help the scum team even if it's just buying a no elimination.

I'm foreseeing that's how tomorrow could likely turn out, so I'm trying to rewrite history before it even begins by claiming today!

[GuiltyLion]

ok cool story

still don't see your vote back on redtea where it belongs

[Shirou]

The reason I'm doing this is because

it was obvious from today that if you're scum, redtea is likely town

and you're already setting up implo/me for miseliminations, and if I claim cop there, you would say it's simply a desperation move to buy a no elimination day.

Redtea is such a fucking OBVIOUS BUS

, and I believe at least implo is town, so the play here would be to do redtea and shade me/implo to get two mislims later.

lmfao

You're just reaching now

I still said in the post that redtea is more likely town than not by how you're pushing him

but IF redtea is scum, he's an obvious bus. And you've been shading the slot since D1.

It's that simple to understand my point but you're trying to make it look shady.

[Enchant]

Nah mafia claims early to save their skins, because batshit insane people with hammers are mostly town, as mafia not brave to do that.

[Shirou]

ok cool story

still don't see your vote back on redtea where it belongs

because I think no elimination is better for today?

have you read any of my posts?

what if I do redtea today and people just say "yeah let's not do that no elimination"

no elimination first and then I vote the consensus

/shrug.

[Shirou]

Nah mafia claims early to save their skins, because batshit insane people with hammers are mostly town, as mafia not brave to do that.

???

why would they claim early to save their skins when their skins aren't in danger at that moment?

claiming like I'm right now is definitely weird though, I'll give you that.

[implosion]

i really just want to imagine a world where me, shirou, and gl are all town. bonus points if redtea is also town. it's just such a truly beautiful dumpster fire to imagine.

Idk maybe it's already discussed or something.

i said this and got called scummy or bad for it by shirou who is now suggesting we do it : )

i'm still reading up and processing what's happening

[Amazonian Legends]

So in tenet, I made a joke partway through day one that my half of the game were behaving all civilized like we were at high tea with tea and crumpets while the other half of the game was behaving like they were in a rumble, like end of movie outsiders style. I then wondered if the reason for that was that we had more scum on our side while the rumble side was mostly town eating each other.

I’ve had a flashback to that thought a few times while skimming this game day. I wonder if there’s something to that.

[Shirou]

I literally do not think anyone was suggesting that but yourself.

yeah, this... i don't know where ydra got the idea we were even contemplating this and i thought the victim complex about it was pretty strange

same

[GuiltyLion]

yes Shirou, you haven't changed tack from the "GL is scum no matter what redtea's alignment is" position you took several days ago that I already called out as feeling disingenuous, but you can't even keep your story straight about what's "obvious". is redtea scum or not? why aren't you voting them? You keep acting like you're totally fine with redtea's flip but then you insist that we should no lim by virtue of your claim and that you don't actually want redtea flipped. I am trying to corral as many votes onto redtea as possible, I will stop harassing you if you are taking the position that you are never voting redtea here

if you want to no lim at least once, it's better to do that on D3 when we have information from redtea's flip, potentially a fua cop check, potentially another N2 cop check, etc