Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]

[Shirou]

Hm, I dunno if we should massclaim today?

I'm not sure what it would help with

maybe coordinating cop checks if there's more cops left than docs?

but it could also expose our cops and then we don't get any more cop checks depending on how many doctors there's left...?

like, Enchant + Imagininality + Amazonian is already 3 doctors. At *most* we've other three I think? but we can only have another one.

Not sure if it's better than massclaiming tomorrow or so at all. There's already an obvious doc target for tonight I think (fua)

[fua]

fua, you want doctors to out their nights AND only protect a publicly agreed upon target? Doesn't that just tell scum exactly who they can kill on any given night?

Yeah because it means protecting a cop who’s going to use their check which is more valuable than preserving a confirmed townie anyway.

fua, you want doctors to out their nights AND only protect a publicly agreed upon target? Doesn't that just tell scum exactly who they can kill on any given night?

I mean there are two claimed cops already. Not hard for mafia to tell who might be protected. The point of this is to preserve a cop check at night which will confirm a townie or confirm a scum, the latter of which is a trade I’m completely willing to make.

These are both fair points even if you sent one of them by accident lol

It’s the same point twice, is what I mean.

[Tejate Raichu]

If we're going to mass claim, may I start us off now?

[fua]

Hm, I dunno if we should massclaim today?

I'm not sure what it would help with

maybe coordinating cop checks if there's more cops left than docs?

but it could also expose our cops and then we don't get any more cop checks depending on how many doctors there's left...?

like, Enchant + Imagininality + Amazonian is already 3 doctors. At *most* we've other three I think? but we can only have another one.

Not sure if it's better than massclaiming tomorrow or so at all. There's already an obvious doc target for tonight I think (fua)

At worst we have three more cop checks and three more doctors. Not sure why we wouldn’t be able to not have results.

[fua]

If we're going to mass claim, may I start us off now?

Go for it.

[fua]

Wouldn’t be able to have results*. Shit.

[Tejate Raichu]

I am a

Night 3 Doctor

.

[fua]

Remember that mafia can only kill one person per night anyway.

[fua]

I am a

Night 3 Doctor

.

Heal me tonight, I’m a

night 3 cop

.

For real this time.

[Tejate Raichu]

I kind of assumed you were, so that was the plan anyways.

[fua]

Sheeeesh!

[Tejate Raichu]

I mean, I figured that there's no way a night 4 or 5 cop would be eager to claim earlier than everyone else. I felt you were n1 - n3, and I learned today that you are not night 2.

[morph the cat]

Assuming this is popcorn, please pick the next to claim Tejate.

[Tejate Raichu]

I'd like to hear Ceph's claim since he's pretty confirmed.

[morph the cat]

...Interesting.

Have you played in a game with popcorn claiming before, Tejate?

[Shirou]

/shrug

I think this is a bad idea but ok

either way, if we're gonna claim we're gonna leash targets no?

There's literally no point to massclaiming if we aren't gonna leash targets

[Shirou]

to be honest I think fua/tejate pushing for massclaim like this is rather scummy

I legit see little to gain by massclaiming but a lot to lose by outing our others cops in a scenario where there's only a few doctors left

[Shirou]

but /shrug again

my slot function right now is to get my result and die I guess, by NK or miselimination

but either way, so far only Tejate claimed N3 doctor

We can still hold on massclaiming. I've an idea about what to do tonight.

Massclaiming would kinda go against that but...bah, not enough energy to oppose too much on this.

[fua]

I guess GL and Ceph agreeing with it is scummy too.

[morph the cat]

Unfortunately, there's zero universes where Fua as scum pulls the day opening ringamarole.

[morph the cat]

only a few doctors left

?

Am I missing something where this is known data?

[Tejate Raichu]

...Interesting.

Have you played in a game with popcorn claiming before, Tejate?

Nope.

[Shirou]

only a few doctors left

?

Am I missing something where this is known data?

Yeah? It's publicly known that there was already 3 doctors flipped/claimed (as long as we believe Enchant I guess? I'm kinda assuming they are town for argument sake) before Tejate's claim. If Tejate is also town by any reason, that would already be 4 doctors when we *at most* have 6. There's a good probability we've either 4 or 5, so it's possible that there won't be enough doctors from now on to protect all cop claims.

Maybe there's, maybe there isn't. I talked as a possibility mostly.

[Shirou]

I got sidetracked here for a bit but I've some stuff to confess and say

However before all of it, I want to make one other thing clear:

I'm gonna try to argue more on why I shouldn't be today elimination rather than why I should be left alive for the rest of the game I guess? I'm not too eager on going head to head with people suspicious on me for weeks if not a month if I'm that much of a consensus suspect as it seems at the moment.

Although...I'm a bit baffled. It may not look like that to you all, but I know I'm town but was still not nightkilled, so that likely means scum thinks I'm a viable miselimination (and I guess they aren't wrong?) so I was expecting someone to start pushing me, but everyone seems already kinda been considering to only vote me after today?

huh, that's...good I guess? although it also looks like scum aren't very bold. There's only people shading me rather than trying to truly lead on me today so far.

[fua]

Enchant is completely telling the truth and is absolutely locktown.