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[TemporalLich]

btw, distancing is a weak push for the intent of not having associatives

the intent is why it gets called distancing, so a goodpush can be distancing

[Radical Rat]

let's say I'm mod-confirmed town

what would I need to do to be bussing Flea?

Well, you'd need to be playing super bastard game where the moderator lied, because you MUST be Flea's partner to bus fae.

the first condition is to completely remove alignment from the equation for the sake of argument, I'm not that vain

Then the term "bus" has literally no meaning anymore. The alignment is the whole point.

[TemporalLich]

Faerie: Wait so you think Flea has a goodie mindset and a baddie role pm?
Mage: I'm not sure it's possible to have both??

Flea's posting and pushing are good, however NK15 buddied with Flea in a scummy defense. 407 is bussing Enchant (because you don't need to vote to bus)

let's say I have medium-low confidence that Flea is distancing from Enchant and and would lim there (you'd have to want to lim there to bus - otherwise it isn't bussing) and that the game is mod-confirmed 10:3 (see 174) and that I have -10% confidence I have the scum team lined up.

What confidence would you give on Flea is bussing Enchant?

[TemporalLich]

ebwop: confirmed, not mod-confirmed

I'm just too overconfident this game

[TemporalLich]

but yeah at least overconfidence is a towntell

[Roden]

I'd seen that defense of Flea by NK15, but I wasn't sure what to think of it. It's possible he just spewed fae as town, I just don't want to write Flea off as town yet until fae starts town telling.

I do think it's pretty +town to defend Flea here though. Game state vibes suggest the scum team don't have any momentum and aren't doing much to try to control the game state, but also need to keep potential mis-elim choices open if fae is town. There was hardly any resistance to the NK15 wagon and there weren't any notable counter wagons. They're likely playing cautiously since their first scum buddy got ran up quickly.

Which brings me to Enchant and Firebringer. I think scum has to be here, I'm gonna try looking more closely at their ISOs.

[Roden]

Game staling, when we start murdering?

Enchant is mostly just messing around in his ISO, this sticks out a bit though because he complains about the game stalling but he doesn't do much to push the game forward. He doesn't even vote the leading wagon despite him wanting to start killing people.

Finally, Murder.

VOTE: NK15

This vote doesn't make any sense, he finally votes the leading wagon after it's already been hammered.

@Enchant:

Why didn't you want to vote NK15? Do you have any reads?

[Roden]

Game staling, when we start murdering?

The game is stalling because there are some complacent people who haven't expressed a single read, or the absence of reads other than null. Scum are probably waiting for someone to vote me to E-1 so that Not Mafia can lolhammer and produce a cheap mislim.
Well, this situation again...
So... can someone tell me why they are not voting jjh? Or why jjh is supposed to be town?

This post is kinda funny in hindsight but I admittedly town read this before the flip, probably because the frustration feels genuine. Poor guy wasn't getting any help at all from his buddies.

[Roden]

Firebringer is lockscum but I want him for elo

I think RR is scum

Galron, do you think these two are the rest of the scum team?

[Dwlee99]

Someone said something something pooky distance me something can whoever did that explain

[Faerie Mages]

Faerie: We don't have much to add
Mage: This may be the same question as the frog's but what is the meaning of the word distancing as used by the wizard?

[Faerie Mages]

Faerie: We take that back actually
Mage: We really like Roden
Faerie: That is all
Mage: Ps logic on fleek though we like Enchant

[TemporalLich]

Pooky's only interaction with Dwlee is attacking the no-fun plan - which I called distancing even though it would be pointless to distance there

distancing is when you interact in a way to shut down associatives - it generally benefits scum more than town

RR still feels scummy but I don't have substance, just gut

Firebringer has no substance at all, so I can't establish a substantial read on firebringer

[Firebringer]

sorry this game just isn't interesting especially with pooky dead

[Firebringer]

i know my scumread on radical rat was kind of a meme but i kind of believe it

[TemporalLich]

I mean the lack of power roles is unfun but this game is more fun with quick days

however to win we need to actually scum hunt like in actual Mafia

pedit: i agree lol

[Firebringer]

i think ill just sheep jjh here though.
If jjh says its me then burn me at the stake.

Jjh927 is the chosen one

[Firebringer]

Thing is, I'm not actually convinced fae's scum yet. I thought I was after the flip, but upon reflection it seems odd to me that NK15 would want to get himself entangled with his buddy so soon. It could have been a kneejerk reaction borne from panic... but I don't really think the pressure was there to warrant that? jjh projected certainty, but was only one player, and hadn't yet presented any kind of actual argument. It seems more likely that it was a botched pocket attempt, with NK knowing Flea was Town and thinking defending fae would make him look better to Flea and those who townread fae.

posts like this just make my hives go crazy

also i agree with lich on roden town.
and i lack substance. I wish i was created with some sort of strong material, maybe iron

[Firebringer]

quite a few people actually also think radical rat is scum. Wow i thought i made hot takes this game.
Well fine i switch it to town just so i can still pretend i make unique and interesting takes

[TemporalLich]

I'd be fine with a RR lime todaey

[Firebringer]

Faerie: We take that back actually
Mage: We really like Roden
Faerie: That is all
Mage: Ps logic on fleek though we like Enchant

also to whoever is operating this account whether its hydra or not. I haven't read any of ur posts and don't plan to it.
pls stop ur gimmick.
or don't.
free game/country

maybe i shouldnt be grumpy and play a silly gimmick too

[Firebringer]

let's say I'm mod-confirmed town

hello mr confirmed town. How r u

[jjh927]

Fire, I'm kinda concerned you never let out an opinion on NK15 when I know you have very strong opinions there

[Firebringer]

is this game extremely town sided if town just keeps ensuring the strongest town players can't be night killed?
not sure.

jjh927 not being able to be eliminated night or day kind of extremely hurts scum here. I would almost call it an insant lose situation unless Jjh927 reads suck so much ass this game.

Also yeah i agree with roden on Flea scum.

if its only three scum (which tbh i forgot how many scum are in this) I want to say flea and RR.
if not, idk who is a fourth or more.

I got quite a few decent townreads.

[Firebringer]

Fire, I'm kinda concerned you never let out an opinion on NK15 when I know you have very strong opinions there

I don't think i even talked to nk15 at all yesterday. So besides me raging at him for his performance in our last game that ive put behind me. I don't see what strong opinion u could be talking about