Micro 1043: League of Legends UPick - Game Over!

[.Lux.]

lasers when needed, but not needed now.

[.JarvanIV.]

Honestly I thought it was obvious what her spider form does. Don't see why you needed to test it but okay.

Entertain my ignorance

Gragas

, but I

still

don't know what

Elise's

Spider Form does. Perhaps you could enlighten all of us? As I stated before, using an ultimate should have a pretty big effect, and for

Elise

to ult unprovoked with no follow-up is quite perplexing to me.

Do you think it is pro-town for town to be aware before an ultimate ability is initiated?

[.JarvanIV.]

Yes, I announced my intentions, unlike everyone else randomly attacking.

Yes, because your attack is more susceptible to piling up through random antics, whereas mine was premeditated for a specific game purpose.

i don't know, i think the whole thing just comes across as kinda self-conscious. you are saying that you should be able to get away with by far the largest attack of the game so far because you called it a test. that means you get to do it without committing to any actual suspicion, and you also get to act like you're acting in the best interests of the town by doing it. and before you even do it, you are explaining why nobody should find your actions suspicious and how they should think you are such a nice tank instead.

if i had an ability where my first attack of the day did 3x as much damage, i would really want to use it wisely and put it where i had a genuine suspicion.

Of course it was self-conscious. I'm not gonna stab someone for 15 damage without some sort of explanation.

I'm not worried about deflecting suspicion, I'm focused on solving this game for the mechanical puzzle that it is.

I do believe my actions were in the best interest of the town. Unless you have inside knowledge on

Elise's

Spider Form ability then you wouldn't know it was completely safe to attack her in her

Ultimate

form. I could have been cocooned or kamikazed by spiderlings or something, but I was confident (read: tanky) enough to take the risk.

When I form genuine suspicion on someone, trust me you will know it.

[.JarvanIV.]

Lux and/or Warwick

please attack me.

1) I have a pix shield
2) I want everybody's first/special/extra attack to be public information
3) You know you both want to

I can tell

Lux

and I will butt heads over my play-style, but I don't have any reads on her yet so we'll just have to let that play out.

On the other hand, I think

Ashe

said it best: the Wolf is acting a bit too tame. If we were "limming" today,

Warwick

would be top of my pool.

[.Gragas.]

B..Bu..But I am so shy! Can I?

I know it's hard to not get shy around the sexiest man on the rift (me), alot of people have this problem, but it's okay you can be helped. I give you permission to not be shy around me.

but why is early "wagoning" like that scummy? She even followed up on it,

Why was any of her posts townie? Wagoning without explanation is an easy thing for scum to do so I think it should be pushed on..?? Her "follow up" wasn't even explaining why she did it.

Do you think Caitlyn misread the room when she entered the game like that?

There wasn't much of a room to read yet, so no. She hasn't done much to make me want to stop pushing her yet though.

...you think?

Yes.

Gragas seems town from his attitude. I cannot describe it. I just town read him for now.

I don't think I deserve a townread yet honestly, I haven't done too much thinking like others have.

Entertain my ignorance

Gragas

, but I

still

don't know what

Elise's

Spider Form does. Perhaps you could enlighten all of us? As I stated before, using an ultimate should have a pretty big effect, and for

Elise

to ult unprovoked with no follow-up is quite perplexing to me.

Do you think it is pro-town for town to be aware before an ultimate ability is initiated?

Probably just gives her different abilites, or am I thinking of the wrong champ?

Depends on the ultimate ability but probably generally yes.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Elise has been replaced

[.Amumu.]

gragas seems like a potential friend.
lulu weird vibes. maybe too friendly to be a friend?
lux good thoughts, scary laser.
jarvan perhaps too kingly and up on his throne to know what other people can do. i assumed like gragas that elise likely gets a new set of abilities in spider form, and maybe some stat changes.

[.Elise.]

Hello.

I was attacked to check my ultimate, so i will show what it does.

Attack .JarvanIV.

[.Caitlyn.]

Jarvan did you miss that roles came before alignment?

No, why?

You said something about Ashe's attack inflicting a bind to be town-indicative

[.Lulu.]

OOO I can say my ultimate doesn't really do much BUT it does give MOAR HEALTHHH!!!!!!

I also have a bind ability!!

I AM DA BEST SUPPORT MIDLANER!!!!!!

[.Gragas.]

Hello.

I was attacked to check my ultimate, so i will show what it does.

Attack .JarvanIV.

DID YOU JUST DAMAGE YOURSELF?

[.Elise.]

Hello.

I was attacked to check my ultimate, so i will show what it does.

Attack .JarvanIV.

DID YOU JUST DAMAGE YOURSELF?

No. Don't worry, i will show again.

Attack .JarvanIV.

[.Lulu.]

You're a meanie spider!!
You could just say you deal extra damage and absorb health!!

PEWPEW THE SPIDER!!
GO FOR THE EYES PIX!!

Don't make me turn you into a squirrel!!

... Well I can't do that BUT I CAN BIND YOU!!

[.Elise.]

Yeah.

He also could ask instead of attacking. Bad excusing for damage. Your failure to see that and hypocritical attack on me makes sense as partner.

So yeah, you can as well kill me, but now i will just attack him on CD. I asking everyone to do same.

[.Lulu.]

The first attack you were allowed to show your thing, the second attack is just being mean!!

Jarvan isn't allowed to die today!!

Plus he has da shiiiiiiinnnnneeeeeeeeey...

PLUS!! I think Jarvan is towny because hes being honest about what hes doing and not trying to hide it. even if those reasons are sorta suspicious.... and pix agrees too!!

[.Lulu.]

Meanie spider lady is just hiding and being weird...

[.Elise.]

The first attack you were allowed to show your thing, the second attack is just being mean!!

Jarvan isn't allowed to die today!!

Plus he has da shiiiiiiinnnnneeeeeeeeey...

PLUS!! I think Jarvan is towny because hes being honest about what hes doing and not trying to hide it. even if those reasons are sorta suspicious.... and pix agrees too!!

He is not honest. That's first.

Second, i need to regain my lost hp... Joke, i just love stab things.

[.Warwick.]

I like Lux a bit better.

I have my reservations of Jarvan IV but I do not see the need to attack twice. Do you feel that his test comes from a place of scum, Elise? Why?

[.Elise.]

I see the need.

Because it's horrible reasoning and trying to be "useful" while not adding anything value and even damaging town just for sake of that.

Also, i didn't even outdamage his attack with mine two, and he have bigger HP pool. That's not fair.

[.Lulu.]

He also has a Pix!!

ok technically I have a Pix but Pix is a good Pix!!

ok so so so so so so so...

uh....

OH What have you done thats been that helpful for town, huh!?
At least the shinymans has been useful and is trying to figure out how we all work so scums can't just pew pew and GWAAAAAAAAH!!!! at us and just win!!

[.Gragas.]

No. Don't worry, i will show again.

I'm sorry, I shouldn't play when I'm tired.

I think I see your side of the argument, but I'm unsure of my stance on this right now honestly.
Maybe Lulus being a bit unfair..? I don't get what made faer think "Jarvan isn't allowed to die today", it seems like faers close-minded on that one.

[.Lux.]

it's a bit much for Mafioso Elise to attack someone as a demonstration, and then say here, let me do it again. as an act of hostility after falling into a slot. and

then

saying they will continue to do it. unless elise is partnered with jarvan and they're trying to soak up resources or something but even then, that seems ill-advised.

for now i have an easier time believing elise is a bit miffed about things and is going to go in on jarvan regardless of alignment, but doing so as Town.

i've thought a bit about warwick more, and in that i've wondered if i was assuming... too much of warwick's capacity as Mafioso? in that, i wonder if i'm simply assuming warwick doesn't know what pitfalls to avoid as scum. it feels like a copout to point a finger there but i'm lacking places to point them right now.

if i'm going off of "gut" it's jarvan taking advantage of some room with a larger HP pool early on to invite attacks, poking around with mechanics that scum benefit from knowing and understanding. maybe lulu but that is... definitely my gut getting more eh with the gimmick, and the protection of jarvan. which i guess, maybe i should call this a scumread but i don't have a lot of meat behind it beyond "don't like posting style/attitude" and the aforementioned point. also hey, if i'm right that warwick just stumbled into a basic scummy behavior (the hedging), not attacking jarvan makes a bit more sense. just a bit. this is a conspiracy theory that i'm not putting a lot of weight into but i am putting a lot of words into because it's the closest thing i can flesh out that feels worth fleshing.

amumu and caitlyn probably need more pushing and prodding too. in general i don't have a strong set of feelings about this game yet.

attack: jarvan

if nothing else, as a demonstration of my attack.

[.Amumu.]

for being so quick to attack and so quick to find a solve, caitlyn has also been quick to disappear and fade into the shadows.

caitlyn if you are most confident about gragas why did you never attack him or push any further?

[.Elise.]

He also has a Pix!!

ok technically I have a Pix but Pix is a good Pix!!

ok so so so so so so so...

uh....

OH What have you done thats been that helpful for town, huh!?
At least the shinymans has been useful and is trying to figure out how we all work so scums can't just pew pew and GWAAAAAAAAH!!!! at us and just win!!

Punched potential maf twice. Problems?

Either way, i think you deserved explaination.

It's not surprising ultimate was used from start. It's one-use permanent buff which works before game end. It doubles damage of one of mine ability, increases my regeneration from basic attack (4 instead of 2), increases my attack (+4 magic damage instead of 2). And... That's all actually.
I have another ability, but it's defense and i don't want to reveal my protection.


Anyone, who played RPG can know about "Passive Active" buffs, which for example healers in MMORPG cast. I think attack on me was opportinistic, because it was blatant what my ability does atleast on basic principles, and even if not, he could just ask.

[.Elise.]

I actually wanted to attack again, but thinked about it. Either he is replace or decided to hide. I will wait before he posts something. I will then think about reasonability of continuing attacks.

... Atleast i don't think punching someone not-existant is fun and fair.


.Lulu., if you think Jordan is innocent, then who doesh't?