Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]

[catboi]

Vote Count 3.06

GuiltyLion (3):

fua, Enchant, Shirou

No Elimination (4):

Tejate Raichu, GuiltyLion, Cephrir, numberQ

Not Voting (3):

implosion, MegAzumarill, morph the cat

With 10 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is February 10 at 9:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-02-10 10:00:00)

[morph the cat]

Morph let's go if you're town, put your vote back on GL?

Trying to think of a sentence that would make me less interested in putting our vote back right now.

Coming up empty.

This might be the towniest thing you've done all day.

Trying to think of a sentence that would make me more interested in listening to Shiro.

etc.

Not really, but your (or anyone's) opinion of what makes us townie is pretty low on my list of things to care about today.

[GuiltyLion]

nQ, are you suggesting fua is scum? It's odd to me that you're expressing scrutiny at people pushing for a lim, but don't make any explicit comment about who looks worst from it. I would have thought Shirou being your main suspect opportunistically hopping onto my wagon would have received more of a direct call out

I know this wasn't directed at me, but the way I'm reading this is that fua is wrongtown and scum!Shirou is desperately trying to take advantage because he knows that every mis-elim counts at this point. nQ put it pretty succinctly: scum needs to elim far more than town does right now.

to clarify, I totally agree with your read here on fua/Shirou, the reason I'm asking nQ is because I feel his post is a little dissonant with his stated reads. He's replying to fua, and talking in a general sense about people pushing for lim being scummy, I feel if he's town and thinks Shirou is scum, I would expect more calling out Shirou directly instead of the more general grandstanding. instead it reads like more of his attention is focused on fua, not Shirou

[numberQ]

nQ, are you suggesting fua is scum? It's odd to me that you're expressing scrutiny at people pushing for a lim, but don't make any explicit comment about who looks worst from it. I would have thought Shirou being your main suspect opportunistically hopping onto my wagon would have received more of a direct call out

I don't think talking about my thoughts on fua today before the 3 cop results is prudent. I'm ready for the day to end and any "grandstanding" as you call it is because I don't know what the point of the day continuing is.

[Tejate Raichu]

The only real point right now is that we need to make a decision on who the cops actually want to investigate. Other than that there's really nothing else I have any interest in dragging out the day for.

[MegAzumarill]

+1

Really not much I want to say other than get your groups sorred

[implosion]

Shirou: GL/Meg
fua: implosion/Shirou/Tejate
implosion: morph/numberQ/Enchant

This one I think.

But perhaps I should just make them so we're not listening to a question mark.

You should either make them or formally enshrine these as truth; I for one am very much idling my engine until the end of the day, at least.

I don't really buy that people pushing for a lim right now is a super duper scummy thing to do. I think it's slightly ambiguous which is better though I do prefer no-lim.

[Tejate Raichu]

Shirou: GL/Meg
fua: implosion/Shirou/Tejate
implosion: morph/numberQ/Enchant

This one I think.

But perhaps I should just make them so we're not listening to a question mark.

You should either make them or formally enshrine these as truth; I for one am very much idling my engine until the end of the day, at least.

I don't really buy that people pushing for a lim right now is a super duper scummy thing to do. I think it's slightly ambiguous which is better though I do prefer no-lim.

I don't think it's all that ambigious. I can understand the town desire to get scum out in the here and now, but there is just simply no good reason to do so. Scum would prefer to mis-elim this day than to no-elim. Even if we get 0 scum out today, depriving them of an elim they desperately need to have a chance at winning is +town.

[Shirou]

also, I think no elimination is a grave mistake. And if you talk about how I had suggested no elimination yesterday, re:read my ISO because I already explained that before.

Uhhh

Please explain to me like I am a 5 year old how in your view it would have made sense to no elim yesterday prior to the redtea flip, or why you were trying to get everyone to agree to a no elim today, but now that redtea flipped scum, it's a "grave mistake"?

already explained in my ISO and if you can't find it /shrug

I'm not going back to explaining myself that much, in fact, didn't everyone complain when I did it...?

scum!Shirou is desperately trying to take advantage because he knows that every mis-elim counts at this point

uh...I was about to say how scummy it is to find a problem in me not trying to lose us the edge we've (even if it's a bit ~unlikely~, it's still very possible for us to gain an extra elimination as long as we eliminate everyday), but in hindsight if you think I'm that scummy...I guess that makes sense from your pov.

[Shirou]

In post 3148, Tejate Raichu wrote:

In post 3147, morph the cat wrote:

In post 3125, Shirou wrote:
Morph let's go if you're town, put your vote back on GL?



Trying to think of a sentence that would make me less interested in putting our vote back right now.

Coming up empty.

This might be the towniest thing you've done all day.



Trying to think of a sentence that would make me more interested in listening to Shiro.

uh

okay then I guess...

[Shirou]

VOTE: no elimination

if there's that much resistance to trying to get us an extra elimination which in a setup full of cops can literally be the difference between winning and losing, okay. Let's do no-lim then, but I think we'll regret it later.

this situation is getting kinda funny, I'm beginning to wonder what will be the reaction from my flip.

[implosion]

ffs don't vote when there's any ambiguity.

If no-lim is hammered before we can resolve the ambiguity I'm going by the groups I just quoted in 3156 and others should as well.

[Tejate Raichu]

Is that E-1 again? VC please?

[Shirou]

so, this is the pools we're doing right?

Shirou: Morph/Implo
Fua: Shirou/GL/NQ
Implo: Meg/Tejate

except fua agreed to leash themselves to GL, so maybe Implo can have me in their pool and I do get NQ.

PS: Implo I really think you shouldn't investigate me as you'll probably be eliminated in disbelief but it's up to you I guess.

Therefore...

Shirou: Morph/Implo/NQ
Fua: GL
Implo: Meg/Tejate

?

[implosion]

it is, there was a vc at the top of the page and there were no other votes since then.

please unvote for now, shirou.

[implosion]

you putting no-elim at e-1 and then bolding new groups when people have said they're suspicious of you proposing groups is like, the single easiest way to lose the game if you're town and the single easiest way for you to create an out for yourself if you're scum.

[Shirou]

If anyone of the cops (not anyone else) have a problem with the above, do say so

personally I'm /confirming myself to the above but dunno about implo/fua.

say whether you /confirm it or not.

p-edit: okay

VOTE: unvote

[Shirou]

you putting no-elim at e-1 and then bolding new groups when people have said they're suspicious of you proposing groups is like, the single easiest way to lose the game if you're town and the single easiest way for you to create an out for yourself if you're scum.

uh sorry

it's just that I'm getting annoyed by listening to people saying I'm obvscum and etc

I'm not really putting much thought in this game right now

you're right

[Shirou]

wait a min though

that's not a suggestion I did. It was fua's. I'm simply agreeing to their requests and going with the flow.

You're also being a bit unfair to me here implo

[Shirou]

I'm tired of this dayphase already though

it may be a bit mean but I think everyone other than the cops themselves and perhaps Ceph should just stop making so much suggestions to the pool like that. It's impossible to cater to everyone's requests?

also if anyone else begins to say they are suspicious of me "recommending a pool", it was FUA'S IDEA.

[Shirou]

also implo, fua didn't yet double confirm it but they literally made the pools themselves, and agree to be leashed on GL already.

If you've time to post to shade me implo, can you actually post whether you agree to the pool or not?

There's quite literally...only you remaining unconfirmed to it more or less.

[implosion]

it's something fua suggested and then other people said they didn't like it and would rather ceph suggest groups. I'm also tired of this dayphase. So let's have Ceph confirm what groups he's okay with in his next post, then you/me/fua all agree in our next posts, then we no-lim so that no one can claim that there was any funny business..

[implosion]

fua also made that post immediately after this post by Enchant:

If you tried to make most sucking list, you win

so I had no idea if they were actually suggesting groups or trying to make intentionally bad groups because they weren't clear about it.

[morph the cat]

I object to being in Shirou's pool.

I don't know why that change happened.

[Shirou]

it's something fua suggested and then other people said they didn't like it and would rather ceph suggest groups. I'm also tired of this dayphase. So let's have Ceph confirm what groups he's okay with in his next post, then you/me/fua all agree in our next posts, then we no-lim so that no one can claim that there was any funny business..

more waiting...sigh

okay