open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Kaiji]

WHY is cat town ... i asked you like 3x now ... ?
and i'm not as sus of dats as i am of cat

skitter - what happened to catboi scumread btw?

surely just a guilty from a confirmed scum when both slots were getting pressure at the time isn't 100% clearing to you, right?

[Kaiji]

and now i see that andante is saying catboi is town and i trust town!her's townreads - she very rarely townreads scum(which is annoying from a scum perspective thus I've killed her b4)

[Kaiji]

@catboi from my pov if mena is venegeful that makes you or dats the vig

And from your pov that makes dats the vig (or me i suppose)

wondering what happened from this progression

[Kaiji]

Im thinking we flip mena.

I think mena claimed cop to implicate me if scum and his flip will help resolve skitter too if town

btw my initial reaction to the cop claim ^^ because i had mentioned mena potentially claiming cop results and i was like ?? tf

[Kaiji]

it really do be funny that skitter tries to push me as scum for bad takes on mena slot when she was soft defending him all of d3 until it was certain most people were scumreading his slot

i do wish i wasn't the only one reading this game as a whole

[Kaiji]

I mean i dont trust that but ok

I do think catboi's shift in mode is rather +town

after a page of several people saying "yeah we dont believe this BS claim"

after she pushed catboi pretty hard.

[Kaiji]

Catboi mena is not svs

maybe i should just trust past me

but i'll keep to myself who i'm reevaling back to as my primary suspect.

[Kaiji]

as someone who was heavily hinting at mena being possible cop i feel that the reason mena is now a claimed cop is an attempt to tie me harder to the slot and use me as the gamewinning mislim and that alone makes me want to resolve mena first

it do be nice to have receipts

[Kaiji]

i still want to vote sleep

optimal for 2 reasons:

n3 scum vig may exist

catboi/mena is a 50/50 and scum have to risk more investigatives if catboi is in the scum half(i still acknowledge it can be SvS btw but then mena has to out another result which complicates the gamestate from their POV if they are scum)

thoughts:

andante/skitter unaligned

mena/skitter aligned for sure in scum mena world

SS/skitter aligned


so if mena scum

go skitter->SS


the fact i dont know where to go though from catboi scum is a sign that its probably wrong

actually
VOTE: Mena

andante and skitter also unaligned

DA RECEIPTS DOE

[Kaiji]

see when i was self towncasing myself i did no rereading and me having all this in my ISO that makes me look good and not reference it directly and in a moreso vague way shows i was genuinely working from memory.

[Kaiji]

actually my whole play like before i flip over onto catboi is like hard trying to convince everyone the solve is mena + skitter so get lost people trying to tell me i tried to save mena!slot

[Kaiji]

that is how my scum plan works in *reverse*

I push enough suspicion onto a townie by hardpushing them and then when most people are on that side, I flip the other way to something else to make it look like I was on the right side of the wagon and escape with my hands clean.

[Kaiji]

so basically its a shit plan and does nothing for me.

I just go all in on the bus there or all in on the no lim.

[Kaiji]

skitter post real reads challenge (impossible)(because she is scum)

andante catboi
dats kaiji
ss mare
alyssa
mena

eh actually put catboi one down

IMO -> this was a slip because of how high catboi was placed and thats why the rectification right away like "oh fuck i was pushing catboi all day and now theyre lock town level i shouldnt have done that"

because i made them post reads under pressure

[Kaiji]

hammer ur partner

skitter had a chance to hammer enchant - they did not here and stalled.

i was pushing to end day here.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

deadass I do not have the energy for this game today

[Kaiji]

UNVOTE:

in a scum alyssa world idk if enchant is scum here so let me look


also catboi twiddling his thumbs is not feeling great to me either


skitter has exhibited effort to solve which honestly atp i wanna sort by WIM

im tossing all my reads away

we are starting from scratch.

atp i think the only person im willing to clear is andante

but not as sure anymore if its a town!enchant world.

vibe solve if we assume enchant flips town:

Catboi/Alyssa/Mare

Enchant flips scum:

Enchant/Skitter/SS


outside of this is:

Andante/Datisi

i do not feel that catboi is very concerned with the guilty because from their pov this is a huge revelation that helps him solve better but instead he is also twiddling thumbs. he is on the site often and yet does not care to visit this game.

yeah ...........................

when the tinfoil finally sets in

the fact i solved enchant as town from an alyssa scum pov makes me believe that slot is town here still.

[Kaiji]

deadass I do not have the energy for this game today

i have unlimited energy. ama.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

idk the fact that I correctly townread both Andante and Mare off really simple things and maintained them pretty much up to their deaths is pretty much enough for me

[Kaiji]

I am mostly lost as to where the discussion around no elimination is going

I guess I should be looking at other things I just find playing mafia mostly aggravating right now

changed my mind on no lim

VOTE: catboi

i dont care about snipes about what im posting

post original content

u have 1 conf scum from your pov, where is the indication that you are solving anything from that pov

That's not a snipe, it's a question ffs

I am trying to get your perspective

solve or die

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I was going to say that I really doubt there's a mafia vengeful

and then I remembered that mare was neighborizer so that doesn't actually prove anything

[Kaiji]

idk the fact that I correctly townread both Andante and Mare off really simple things and maintained them pretty much up to their deaths is pretty much enough for me

i wasn't tinfoiling your slot as scum here, i'm moreso returning to a previous solve I think is correct.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

also is there any reason whatsoever for me to engage into datisi here

if he's legit scum like I still think is more likely than not, then it's just going to devolve into a nonsense back and forth drowning out the game and just remove any efficacy my points on him have

[Alyssa The Lamb]

actually I wonder if these weird reads on me was because I was getting correct reads off odd mechanical decisions like that

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm becoming more and more convinced that these kills were planned out in advance rather than decided upon the night they happened