Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]


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Post Post #3925 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:34 pm

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I hope the day ends sooner so I can die and find out for myself.
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Post Post #3926 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:42 pm

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In post 3902, Tejate Raichu wrote:To be clear Ceph, same plan as before, just expanding your pool to allow you to check Shirou or fua.
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Post Post #3927 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:43 pm

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In post 3906, Shirou wrote:
In post 3904, Tejate Raichu wrote:So we are in twilight then? Oh.
Yep

which why it's also kiiindaaa scummy for me to want to change the plans and make Ceph maybe cop me

but hey

since I'm already so scum read anyway, wink wink, please check me if possible Ceph?

I PROMISE you it's a green result. :good:

(kkkk, this is totally gonna make him NOT check me isn't it? but maybe if I act so openly sus like this he may check me for the wrong reasons anyway, which would still be a win in my book)
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Post Post #3928 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:44 pm

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In post 3919, Shirou wrote:Damn Tejate, you wanted to be mafia in this game?

Look at how easily things can go wrong for mafia depending on mech stuff. I was the opposite and even though I'm fine with being mafia in most games nowadays, I always prayed for a town pm here. It's a shame I didn't ge-

...

*cough*

I mean I'm happy I got one yeah

(CEPH DOES THIS POST MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE CHECKING ME RATHER THAN FUA YET?)
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Post Post #3929 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:44 pm

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In post 3921, fua wrote:
In post 3916, Tejate Raichu wrote:Not gonna lie, I secretly want to die because I kind of want to see how the ghosts are doing. I miss when Amazonian was alive.
Ghosts are probably shit talking us a lot for being dumbasses. Especially now that Morph is there.
morph had plenty of chances to solve while they were alive

im still a bit disappointed tbh
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Post Post #3930 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:46 pm

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In post 3928, Cephrir wrote:listen. i hate you.
kkkkkkk
"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."

"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"
~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"
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Post Post #3931 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:15 pm

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In post 3923, Shirou wrote:
In post 3921, fua wrote:
In post 3916, Tejate Raichu wrote:Not gonna lie, I secretly want to die because I kind of want to see how the ghosts are doing. I miss when Amazonian was alive.
Ghosts are probably shit talking us a lot for being dumbasses. Especially now that Morph is there.
If you're town, you've no idea how afraid I'm to read the likely multiple, long insults I'm probably receiving over there for introducing paranoia about your slot in this game...

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Uh oh. I am town, so...
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Post Post #3932 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:38 pm

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Ceph, if NQ town, try to check Town among Fua/Shirou/GL, it confirms others as scum. Fairly, you probably not surviving that.
If NQ is scum, try to hit scum. Otherwise it will be bullshit between Shirou/GL/You/Fua, excluding person you checked. Still winnable though.

I hope it's simple.


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Post Post #3933 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:06 pm

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Not gonna gambit, even if I made a save it wouldn't buy us another lim and people might think it's just scum me making a wifom play. Guaranteed Ceph cop result is best thing I can do
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Post Post #3934 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:32 pm

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I think NQ flips scum the more and more twilight lasts.
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Post Post #3935 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:48 pm

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Does it matter? We're gonna be receiving our flip eventually anyways. Regardless, I trust Ceph to do what he thinks is best as far as the investigation go. Realistically as long as it's not outside of fua/Shirou/GL pool I'm okay with it.
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Post Post #3936 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:51 pm

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Well i receive tantrums anyway.
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Post Post #3937 (ISO) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:17 am

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I'm rather curious since NQ hasn't posted after being hammered
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"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"
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"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"
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Post Post #3938 (ISO) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:32 am

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Vote Count 5.03
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numberQ (4):
GuiltyLion, Cephrir, Shirou, fua

Not Voting (3):
numberQ, Tejate Raichu, Enchant


With 7 alive, it took 4 to eliminate.
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Post Post #3939 (ISO) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:34 am

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numberQ
was eliminated Day 5.

He was a...
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It is now
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Post Post #3940 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:12 am

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Enchant
was killed Night 5. He was a
Town Doctor
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It is now
Day 6
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Vote Count 6.00
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Not Voting (5):
Cephrir, fua, GuiltyLion, Shirou, Tejate Raichu


With 5 alive, it's 3 to eliminate.



Deadline for Day 6 is March 1 at 10:00 AM EST.


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Post Post #3941 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:32 am

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Okay, so Tejate Raichu is 100% confirmed townie now.

Anyway. There’s an actual chance that both GL and Shirou are somehow town here. Which scares me.
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Post Post #3942 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:38 am

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In post 3820, Cephrir wrote:i feel like it's remarkable that players who need to doubtcast fua in order to win if they are scum are like, all doing that
In post 3821, Cephrir wrote:& tbh i feel like the lack of doubt against me could me attempts to pocket me & indicative that they know nq will flip town

i guess i could be reading too much into that though
These posts from Ceph yesterday as well as the suspicion thrown on Shirou makes me think that he knows for sure that I’m town and that he’s attempting to switch it over to Shirou or GL to protect NQ. Since NQ’s copping is no longer valid it could just be a teamup of these two? I should probably do an ISO but if Shirou and GL were both pushing NQ before Ceph it makes me feel like they aren’t really aligned with him. Shirou has been expecting to be the lim for days now and bussing the person who is far less likely to be suspected makes no sense from a mafia standpoint, as much as I hate to say it.
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Post Post #3943 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:41 am

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GL voting NQ before Shirou also doesn’t make much sense if the two are partners. I guess it could be a setup to make the elims Shirou and then possibly Ceph but in that scenario he would have to know that he would never survive the final 3. So I can’t really see that happening either.
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Post Post #3944 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:44 am

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I think Ceph is probably the mechanically best elim option for today because we either win or have a confirmed townie in the final three.
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Post Post #3945 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:41 am

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Fua is innocent
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Post Post #3946 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:41 am

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In post 3944, fua wrote:I think Ceph is probably the mechanically best elim option for today because we either win or have a confirmed townie in the final three.
Isnt this true no matter who we elim?
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Post Post #3947 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:52 am

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In post 3945, Cephrir wrote:Fua is innocent
You really checked fua when from your POV it would be better to check the most suspicious person (aka me) on a NQ scum flip?

Like, if you really are that confident I'm scum, you could have just checked me and ended the game right there from your PoV. The fact you didn't is really weird.
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Post Post #3948 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:58 am

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For what is worth regardless of the outcome this game ends up in, I want to note I suggested either me or GL being checked on a NQ scum flip, rather than fua. I think it would have been a better cop check when there's only one scum left, so a guilty here ends the game.

We did get Enchant/Tejate to endorse checking me or GL as an option by the end, but Ceph still did choose to check fua even though he has firmly believed I'm scum since forever (and therefore the game would end from his PoV if he checked me?). It's kinda an interesting point to explore, but I don't know, I don't necessarily believe Ceph is scum now, but I was really ready to call him town if he had checked either me or GL here rather than fua.

If he had checked either me or GL, if he was scum he would need to 1v1 fua to win, which would be much harder to do than to 1v1 either me or GL.
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Post Post #3949 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:02 am

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So far Ceph has done exactly what scum!Ceph should do.

He tried to get my elimination yesterday if it was possible, but switched to NQ due to demand.

He checked fua when given the options of me or GL, when if he got a guilty on one of us (his top suspects), it would end the game.

/shrug

Dunno what to think about this but I feel he's arguably less town than before, and I was almost considering him conftown back in D3.
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