Open 844 – Cults With Guns [Endgame]

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VOTE: korina

i claim cop with a guilty on korina

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didn't roll cult again, eh?

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enchant is town

VOTE: wavemode

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ik kori said that both alignments can post mech, but i stil enchant is town because my experience with enchant tells me that they do not go into this "aggressive pro-town mech" flurry as scum

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VOTE: flea

why are you voting enchant for what you deem to be incorrect mech specc?

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VOTE: flea

ok why are people voting flea, I don't think flea is cult UNVOTE:

why did YOU vote flea???

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ahhh, stephen is pooky, makes sense why that slot was randomly tunnelling me from the start of the game

do i have to bring up how every single time pooky did that, i was town, or...

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"are you not gonna react to the scumflip--" no, it's better that i don't say what i mean.

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maybe later, i'm busy rn

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i tonw

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wow, the betrayal

what happened to the theory from a literal post ago

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yes, i am in fact aware that doing absolutely nothing is not a great look

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mmm

VOTE: wavemode

54 feels tmi and the whole conversation on page 3 feels fake as fuck

the runner up cult is flea because fae just gives me a vibe but fae always give me a vibe so who knows

everyone else is town

cheers

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bc the convo in pt went

"hey im kinda bad at scum and its possible i might have to explode on someone so can we do some nonsense theatre asap so that if i do die xou can solocarry"
"ye ok sure"

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bad scum doesn't need a lot of votes on them to know that they're bad at scum

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i feel like i have heard them say that they are bad at scum somewhere, but it's entire possible i'm making that up

my point still stands that 54 and all the posts after it are fake sounding as fuck and nonsense theatre with your exploder buddy so that in the case of emergency, the other partner can carry, is not a bad idea

pedit: they*

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bc 83 was made at half past 1am when i was going to bed, and i just vaguely skimmed for anything attention-grabbing to comment on bc i did not feel like actually reading the game but thought i might be close to getting prodded

i think i did read the game earlier today and thought how wavemode's post on fua is awkward (didn't think of it as theatre at the time), but i did not post about it because i was going out today and was gonna post about it when i came home bc this game isn't a priority to me

then fua got modouted in the meantime

so obviously this looks a bit like bullshit but what can you do, wavemode is still scum

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okay, how about this:

let's leave it a bit to see how wavemode enters the game now. i predict it's gonna be scummy as fuck, because the team that does theatre at that stage of the game is not very confident in their own skills.

once he starts spewing scum all over the place, you see that i'm right, and ez town win, ok?

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like, dude

if i'm scum this game, i'm in an already bad position, and my partner got modouted, i don't do anything but stall my ass off - think of the game where my competent scumbuddy got shot n1 and i was stuck with fucking not_mafia as my buddy. i couldn't be bothered to care.

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it feels like you're handling fua with kiddie gloves while showing a decent amount of certainty that they're scum, and not really looking for possible things that would change your mind.

we gonna get into a pointless semantics argument now?

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i mean exactly what i said. your questions towards fua are hot air designed to make you look unaligned. you're not going through a thought process while asking them, they're not guiding your thinking, you're asking them for the sake of asking questions. which part is unclear?

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are you actually about to make me comb through your iso post by post and explain that in detail...

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seeing things for myself and presenting them to others in a way that's understandable by them are two completely different things. not to mention that the other takes a lot of time.

is this conversation helping you in any way?

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do you not have any other reads on anyone else?

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"avoiding the thread" lol i am not about to waste half an hour of my life explaining to scum why they're scum. nobody else asked.

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I'm not feeling the dats cult vibe here, ngl. Low interest/energy maybe

who are you and what have you done to flea

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the worst replaces Korina.

quack

duck save me they're tryna kill me

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yeah, i have zero interest in explaining to who i think is scum why they are scum.

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i'm townreading flea and i am scared because i also have a very shite read rate on fae

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quack

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it's ok i'd dayvig you too

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hehehehehehehehhe

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goddamnit duck

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what

he absolutely did tunnel town!me like at least three times

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excuse the messy phoneposting as it's 2am and i am about to pass out

as they fit the category of, just coasting by, you know/? and it is indeed strange that they had zero comment on the fact that the vig claimed they would be shot tonight

ummmm but yeah most of the game is kind of just null to me

this felt like, being extremely self conscious and trying to present a read as something Deep and Nuanced, despite it being only page 3 or wtv, like way over the top explain-y

and the accusation is really easy to walk back from if needed, since "oh they're costing but also like everyone is null" is extremely easy to backtrack

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sure but, not even asking him why? not addressing it at all? why is the possibility of looking defensive more worrisome to you than the possibility of a townie getting shot and us basically automatically losing?

and this is like realizing that they don't actually have good ground for what they're asking/accusing fua for being scum, and it lowkey feels like they're guiding fua towards the right answer as opposed leaving the questions more open ended in the hopes of getting them to trip up

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and also this is moreso post hoc reasoning but tming his own partner because he saw a townie being right and thought it's a super great point while i think most people wouldn't bat an eye, i certainly didn't

but not understanding exactly why it's a great point hence awkward questions

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okay, let's say for the sake of argument that questioning stephen is a bad move

why are you fine with questioning me? shouldn't you also be worried that this will be seen as defensiveness?

how does this post help him read fua? what's the point of this, trying to get them to admit they're being inconsistent? also like, i think it's pretty clear he and stephen had different approaches to fua so the fact that he's still poking at that point feels like poking for poking's sake

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okay so help me understand the why me fry me principle

is 2 votes the limit? why me fry me at 0 votes, why me fry me at 1 vote, but at 2 votes we gotta start arguing our case. is that the rationale?

yeah but you're not, you're at 2 votes

so what I'm asking is, does "why me = fry me" only apply when you are at 0 votes? then, once you have a certain amount of votes it no longer applies and you start defending yourself? is that how it works?

and if so, how many votes does it take for you to abandon the principle? 1? 2?

ans this is banter about absolute nonsense - again, how dows this sort fua? where in this post is wave showing that he's gaining insight on fua's alignment?

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YOU are the one currently arguing to ME that defending yourself is scummy, which is why you didn't want to do it. I'm just trying to understand the rationale of that stance

and the more of this sorta thing. like my problem with this convo is thta it seems to be based entirely on wave trying to figure out some of fua's principles and core ideas of playing (when to defend yourself, is that scummy, how many votes is pressure etc) which like, are fine, but also they're not exactly conversing about alignments, they're conversing about game theory. now, not saying the two cannot be intersected, they absolutely can, but he seems to be doing it in a way that was purely game theory no actually alignment-related thoughts on them... doesn't help there was no follow up until fua got shot

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my head hurts, going to bed, will probably be here some 8 hours before deadline, but considering the two options rn are either me or wave, don't think i'll have to be moving my vote

gn, do what you will

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last scum between wave and duck. it's within the realm of possibility i was wrong on wave and duck just took advantage of this entire thing. logically, the same can be applied to flea, bit fae reads so pure so like idk lol

gl tonight stephen, you're gonna need it

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good posts, i almost believed that you don't know i'm flipping town.

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a horrible decision, really.

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>_>

i am mad