Open 845 | 09:12 [Game Over]

[Andante]

Vote Count 2.4

DkKoba (1):

Dwlee99

MalcolmTucker (1):

Galron

Not Voting (5):

Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker, The Muffin Man, DkKoba, Frogsterking

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Deadline (expired on 2022-03-02 18:56:46)


Mod Notes:
DkKoba replaces House!

[Not_Mafia]

Pagw 9?! This a personal failing

[Dwlee99]

yes, i just read the setup

and yes i want town!dwlee away from future dayphases and myself to be in it :3

Rude

[Dwlee99]

3D reverse backgammon isn't a sport, is it?

It totally should be if not.

[MalcolmTucker]

I'm just catching up...why the hell did we elimination STD so quickly and with so little general consensus? Like there were essentially two pages of back and forth exchanges and then we eliminated a player without giving it much discussion at a fairly early point in the game. And since then this has barely received any recognition or resulted in anyone being extensively suspected or quizzed over it?

[Galron]

The rage is palpable.

[MalcolmTucker]

i think at worst you kinda just opened the door for viability for malcom to be town there? not like explicitly shown that they are scum, so at least that is helpful in a town!malcom universe here.

we'll see how malcom responds.

What are the accusations particularly based on anyway beyond initial vibes? I only made a handful of posts in day one and in a few hours when I wasn't around nearly everyone else bizarrely decided to eliminate a role player without any extensive discussion over it.

[MalcolmTucker]

The rage is palpable.

Flippant response to a genuine and fair question.

[DkKoba]

Hi Malcom! Would be able to tell me what you yourself observe as the biggest difference in your town games and your scum games?

[DkKoba]

I just skimmed through a town game of yours and already see a glaring difference - but I acknowledge the lack of length in this game could cause errors , but this is something length isn't applicable *as* much because of, well, where I'm getting the info from

[MalcolmTucker]

Hi Malcom! Would be able to tell me what you yourself observe as the biggest difference in your town games and your scum games?

I generally try to be more careful and guarded if I'm mafia, albeit that doesn't always come off.

As a town I generally try to be quite analytical on stuff like votes and player interactions but being town I'm perhaps more likely to contradict myself with jumbled thoughts/reasoning since I'm not necessarily trying to cover my tracks over anything.

This is only my fourth game on this site though.

[DkKoba]

i think at worst you kinda just opened the door for viability for malcom to be town there? not like explicitly shown that they are scum, so at least that is helpful in a town!malcom universe here.

we'll see how malcom responds.

What are the accusations particularly based on anyway beyond initial vibes? I only made a handful of posts in day one and in a few hours when I wasn't around nearly everyone else bizarrely decided to eliminate a role player without any extensive discussion over it.

These accusations are based on how you choose to approach the game and whether or not you are trying to solve the game.

[DkKoba]

Hi Malcom! Would be able to tell me what you yourself observe as the biggest difference in your town games and your scum games?

I generally try to be more careful and guarded if I'm mafia, albeit that doesn't always come off.

As a town I generally try to be quite analytical on stuff like votes and player interactions but being town I'm perhaps more likely to contradict myself with jumbled thoughts/reasoning since I'm not necessarily trying to cover my tracks over anything.

This is only my fourth game on this site though.

Unfortunately, the former is exactly what I am observing in your early d1, could you try to read through and give any impressions on any players thud far?

[MalcolmTucker]

I just skimmed through a town game of yours and already see a glaring difference - but I acknowledge the lack of length in this game could cause errors , but this is something length isn't applicable *as* much because of, well, where I'm getting the info from

I'm still somewhat hazy on how much we're allowed to discuss re previous games from a meta POV, and I'd be struggling to see much of a difference anyway, but yeah, this has generally been a short game so far, with an elimination made in a short timeframe where I wasn't around to say anything, and half the posts in the thread in the past few hours made while I was asleep. Happy to go further on any particular discrepancies if you've noticed them because like I say, I'm struggling to think what they are.

[MalcolmTucker]

Hi Malcom! Would be able to tell me what you yourself observe as the biggest difference in your town games and your scum games?

I generally try to be more careful and guarded if I'm mafia, albeit that doesn't always come off.

As a town I generally try to be quite analytical on stuff like votes and player interactions but being town I'm perhaps more likely to contradict myself with jumbled thoughts/reasoning since I'm not necessarily trying to cover my tracks over anything.

This is only my fourth game on this site though.

Unfortunately, the former is exactly what I am observing in your early d1, could you try to read through and give any impressions on any players thud far?

I'm personally getting town vibes from Muffin Man despite him kinda pushing the bandwagon on STD. It felt like a very heavy push from someone who'd be mafia, unless he suspected STD was a role player based on very little (seems unlikely on turn one) and just went for it to give mafia an advantage.

I'll need to go back and look more in-depth but I'm finding Galron kinda suspicious. Unless I'm missing anything important joined the bandwagon fairly late without giving much of a reasoning for doing so. Lot of flippant posts in there - one a few posts above, a jokey one about being mafia and deciding to concede.

Personally unsure re your posts after replacing in. The "I've not checked through the game thread and do this regularly" seems like a perfectly valid gambit for someone who's mafia to use to appear as if they're coming across as a townie who's just wildly putting out thoughts whenever they happen to have them. Out of interest, what do you think about the turn one elimination? There's bound to be a mafia member who jumped on that, if not two of them. You and Galron wouldn't seem like a ridiculous possible team.

[DkKoba]

I just skimmed through a town game of yours and already see a glaring difference - but I acknowledge the lack of length in this game could cause errors , but this is something length isn't applicable *as* much because of, well, where I'm getting the info from

I'm still somewhat hazy on how much we're allowed to discuss re previous games from a meta POV, and I'd be struggling to see much of a difference anyway, but yeah, this has generally been a short game so far, with an elimination made in a short timeframe where I wasn't around to say anything, and half the posts in the thread in the past few hours made while I was asleep. Happy to go further on any particular discrepancies if you've noticed them because like I say, I'm struggling to think what they are.

Previous games are 100% valid as long as they are completed.

[DkKoba]

Such as the newbie game I read of yours where you were miseliminated on day 3, where I noticed a much stronger entrance from your slot.

[DkKoba]

I'd also like to make it clear I am not 1000% made up on you being mafia since we are in an incredible low info state, so you being open and dialoguing is incredible useful if you are town so thank you. You've already softened my read on you to the point where I am more looking into Galron/Frogster as potential scum than I was last night.

Oh and I'm just noticing you addressed something I did - You'll find I did cite several games where I did replace in and do that exact thing, I have done so as both alignments, and although I'd argue the way I did it in this game much more closely aligns to how I've done it in my town games, I'll settle for people at the very least strictly seeing it as not alignment indicative

[MalcolmTucker]

Such as the newbie game I read of yours where you were miseliminated on day 3, where I noticed a much stronger entrance from your slot.

To be fair I was going in heavy on reads, but for the most part the actual substance of them was a bit all over the place. Although it was my first game on the site and I had a meta on nobody nor all that strong a background on a lot of the site-specific terms that tend to be used. I was also quite quiet in the early stages of that game...probably primarily due to timezone stuff with the game mostly being played while I was asleep.

[DkKoba]

Such as the newbie game I read of yours where you were miseliminated on day 3, where I noticed a much stronger entrance from your slot.

To be fair I was going in heavy on reads, but for the most part the actual substance of them was a bit all over the place. Although it was my first game on the site and I had a meta on nobody nor all that strong a background on a lot of the site-specific terms that tend to be used. I was also quite quiet in the early stages of that game...probably primarily due to timezone stuff with the game mostly being played while I was asleep.

That's a very fair explaination.
VOTE: Frogster

[Frogsterking]

214 I think is fake.

[DkKoba]

speak o the devil

[Frogsterking]

You don't scumread 214?

[DkKoba]

No, I actually find it fairly towny.

[Frogsterking]

Oh okay yeah now that i took a second look at it i really feel town pings.