Mini 2265: Bears with Guns 2: Pandamonium game over

[Dwlee99]

Hello strange and others
VOTE: Toog

[Dwlee99]

Come back from break, check thread

Toogeloo still best vote

A MathBlade, caught in the fray

Probably town

More reads? No

I would rather

Play Pokemon (or hold my office hours in 38 minutes)

[Dwlee99]

I really want toog flipped but Momo isn't the worst vote

[Dwlee99]

I really want toog flipped but Momo isn't the worst vote

Why?

Toog - lolcat, Momo - frog's TMI thingy about the wagon

[Dwlee99]

That answers both questions, actually

[Dwlee99]

Oh. That's not how I read it. Cause toog's content is even making an attempt at being game advancing and there's a lot of it compared to small from momo and something is there.

[Dwlee99]

It should say "toog's content ISN'T even making an attempt," apologies

(see where my vote is)

[Dwlee99]

It should say "toog's content ISN'T even making an attempt," apologies

(see where my vote is)

Got it.

I am scared of you buddying me if Toog is town. Can you disagree with me on something please?

Don't you townread momo?

[Dwlee99]

Who is scum toog? I feel like it doesn't make sense to say there's telling information and then only put down three townreads.

[Dwlee99]

Can you try to find enough townreads to make a poe?

[Dwlee99]

3 town reads isn't helpful?

I mean not really if I also don't have your reasoning to know if I even agree

[Dwlee99]

Toog
You do realize u aren’t the leading wagon.. right....?

You can help make them it if you want to use your vote

[Dwlee99]

Toog
You do realize u aren’t the leading wagon.. right....?

You can help make them it if you want to use your vote

thanks for letting me know I have the power to use my vote. You know it’s not like i wasn’t told that in my role pm

we all need reminders sometimes no worries

[Dwlee99]

I think greeting is overactive town there: monitoring activity timers like that doesn't ping scummy to me

[Dwlee99]

I think greeting is overactive town there: monitoring activity timers like that doesn't ping scummy to me

It used to be something i used to do to look active and helpful when i was scum

Okay your read makes more sense now but I think that might just be a you thing

[Dwlee99]

What's your read on momo, by the way?

Momo is in the game?

Toog stop making funny posts, it makes me want to keep you around even if you're scum lol

[Dwlee99]

Toog wagon go poof and Momo wagon go sprrr

[Dwlee99]

Math are you claiming a guilty or something

[Dwlee99]

Math are you claiming a guilty or something

Do you think I am?

Do you have any reads?

Yea I do and yea I do.

[Dwlee99]

Well if you have a guilty on JV I scumread him that's for sure

[Dwlee99]

I still scumread toog :^)

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Toog
Veterinarian that poisons. I wonder if your license should be revoked lmao

[Dwlee99]

I think the joke is you're "not quite right"

[Dwlee99]

Toog feels radically different from here
viewtopic.php?t=88618&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

[Dwlee99]

Was my case not convincing

[Dwlee99]

Mines more strategic

If you’re scum CSF town then Toog or Dwlee scum is pretty much proven
If you’re town CSF town then town knows that find scum on wagon
If you’re town CSF scum then woo hoo we got something out of it
And if you’re scum and CSF scum then hooray

So I kinda see no point towards doing the brain engagey shit while tipsy

There case done much as I care too atm

Why am I scum with JV?

[Dwlee99]

But the logic makes no sense

[Dwlee99]

But I don't get how toog or I'd alignment is at all related to you or CSF's

[Dwlee99]

I townread me

Toog said something that kinda jiggied with me

UNVOTE:

[Dwlee99]

The math stuff looks misguided at worst

[Dwlee99]

If JV is the caught scum why are you trying to lim the person he's pushing that makes no sense

[Dwlee99]

Okay I've done thinking

VOTE: MathBlade

I think this is scum

Looking back to D1, the hammer on Momo is extremely out of character for MathBlade. It seems like straight up openwolfing where the Math I'm used to cares a lot about claims and mech but here he just completely blew off Momo even getting a chance to claim. Momo's last post is them at E-2.

I think what Toog said about Math's scum pattern is also +++ which is why I revised my read on Toog. From Math's point of view it makes no sense to do this "oh well let's lim CSF to prove JV is scum" cause shouldn't JV just die tonight anyway? Unless the poisoner is a fake claim that they plan to "unpoison" JV tonight the whole thing just smells fake

[Dwlee99]

I refuse to vote for mathblade today
You should too.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk

MathBlade

is claiming to have a PR whose actions we are supposed to see as a flip of one of the players. The flavour for the claimed role also sounds believable. I think it's better to vote out someone else today.

Dayplay > mech. Scum can come up with fake flavor. Mod can give fake flavor. Scum could have a poisoner, so even confirming the role wouldn't confirm his alignment. I swear everytime I agree someone shouldn't be limmed for some vague mech argument we just lim town and then have to come back to them later

Shouldnt matter what you think of me as ur killing me. Whats up with that

Because while I think you’re scum
I am also doing the thing you asked where I consider you not
And if you are scum I get spew
Win win

The only spew I see would be CSF's alignment... but you're trying to lim there

This still doesn't make sense

[Dwlee99]

Also: MathBlade is claiming JOAT when we have a flipped JOAT if you're into mech arguments

[Dwlee99]

Another thing I just thought about: Because math keeps saying JV could die any night, he has given himself until D4 if we're just completely tabling him until we see if the kill goes through or not, and the kill doesn't confirm Math's alignment anyway as previously mentioned.

[Dwlee99]

Hello?

[Dwlee99]

Toooog

[Dwlee99]

The only alternative is the wagon that my main scum suspect is on so...

[Dwlee99]

If you have a case on someone that isn't Math/CSF I'd like to hear it

[Dwlee99]

Alright I have a question while you're here, have you read into other slots other than Toogeloo and Mathblade? And if so, what's your opinion on them?

Also I really don't have much of a case on others at the moment, but I'm fairly confident is more likely to flip scum here.

I have other reads but can you come up with something without me giving you ideas first

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Megazumarill
Outside right now so won't be checking my phone but I really didn't like that E-1

[Dwlee99]

Strange resisted the Momo wagon and hammer right? Do not pref that wagon

[Dwlee99]

Specifically the way they did the exasperated "let's not quicklim someone before claim because <SCP and Subreddit uPick>" which we were both in and is consistent with how I think town!strange approaches that wagon

[Dwlee99]

I had fun this game, thanks for modding. I actually think this setup was mildly townsided but probably too night play reliant. Watcher is a pretty busted role imo, and an ungated watcher + jailkeeper + delayed vigilante + the JOAT is actually a lot of power. I think the only real path to victory for scum in this setup is to stomp through D1 and D2 kinda blatantly and take advantage of town not realizing they are in ELO D3, which is the one we took. If scum got eliminated day one though, town power would poe scum in too hard and probably create a conftown watcher that is getting WIFOM protected and that scum have no means of killing which would be really awful to play.