Mini 2265: Bears with Guns 2: Pandamonium game over

[Nero Cain]

Vote Count 1.3

Panda fact #4:

Are pandas bears or racoons? Scientists are split with some even thinking they are their own species!

[2]MathBlade:

wavemode, JacksonVirgo

[2]Toogeloo:

Dwlee99, Roden

[2]momo:

Cat Scratch Fever, MegAzumarill

[1]StrangeMatter:

Greeting

[1]Roden:

momo

[1]Cat Scratch Fever:

StrangeMatter

[1]MegAzumarill:

Vanderscamp

Not Voting (3):

Toogeloo, Malakittens, MathBlade

With 13 alive, it's 7 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, March 9th at 4:00 am CST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-03-10 05:00:00)

[Dwlee99]

Come back from break, check thread

Toogeloo still best vote

A MathBlade, caught in the fray

Probably town

More reads? No

I would rather

Play Pokemon (or hold my office hours in 38 minutes)

[MathBlade]

Okay so then you know a scum has posted because of the number of people posting…

When you are reading the thread just write every thought that comes to mind on a piece of paper
When done reading, read your paper, organize it, and post that.

If you note any contradictions what are they and why did they happen?
If something is remarkable highlight it.

@Toog did you do this?

Uh, no. Never done this before, and not gonna start now. I do the tried and true "skim read and respond."

Yet you’re missing the “and respond” part pretty hard.

VOTE: Toog

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Momo

First serious wagon of the game should be here
Only 3 posts so far (which is NAI) but 1 is an rvs vote, 1 gives lamist vibes, and the other feels like poor logic because it wasn't reasoned out and was just wanting to look solvey.

EBWOP

Not liking this vote from Meg.
Nagl when Jackson Virgo has less posts and just an RVS vote.
So why momo over JV?

[MegAzumarill]

Because I get a strong impression of trying to look like solving but not any impression of solving.

It just feels theatrical almost

[MegAzumarill]

And obviously you cant do a lot in 5 pages but it just feels like their posts are solely for the purpose of trying to look good.

[Toogeloo]

Yet you’re missing the “and respond” part pretty hard.

I responded to you. Sheesh.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Momo

First serious wagon of the game should be here
Only 3 posts so far (which is NAI) but 1 is an rvs vote, 1 gives lamist vibes, and the other feels like poor logic because it wasn't reasoned out and was just wanting to look solvey.

EBWOP

Not liking this vote from Meg.
Nagl when Jackson Virgo has less posts and just an RVS vote.
So why momo over JV?

Because I am super townie :good:

On a serious note a lot has been happening unexpectedly such as flash flooding in my area and planning my sister moving in with me. I do apologize but I will post when I can.

I have been skimming the game but I will go through once more and post more in depth but Toog seems like town that doesn't know how to towntepp well to me at first glance. Do not have any other reads worthy of being calked out prior to my recatchup

[JacksonVirgo]

Damn smily broke.

[Greeting]

Because I get a strong impression of trying to look like solving but not any impression of solving.

It just feels theatrical almost

I agree that it's theatrical but I don't agree that it necessarily comes from scum.

[Greeting]

I think some players need encouragement to post a bit more. Nothing relevant is happening at the moment.

VOTE: momo

[MathBlade]

This is confusing.

You agree momo’s posting is theatrical but not necessarily scummy.
But then vote momo?

I think there’s a lot happening here.
Toog is refusing to give a single read of which the amount of defenses of that are suspicious.
There’s also a broad scattering of votes that can be critiqued.

It just seems disconnected that there’s nothing to go off of then vote a random player you said was Townie.

I don’t get it?
If trying to start RVS again maybe someone who isn’t giving reads like Toog or JV makes more sense. (Yes I see that JV has RL but town or scum can have RL.)

I mean hell at this point with how obstinate Toog is being they’d make a great vig shot.

[Greeting]

This is confusing.

You agree momo’s posting is theatrical but not necessarily scummy.
But then vote momo?

I think there’s a lot happening here.
Toog is refusing to give a single read of which the amount of defenses of that are suspicious.
There’s also a broad scattering of votes that can be critiqued.

It just seems disconnected that there’s nothing to go off of then vote a random player you said was Townie.

I don’t get it?
If trying to start RVS again maybe someone who isn’t giving reads like Toog or JV makes more sense. (Yes I see that JV has RL but town or scum can have RL.)

I mean hell at this point with how obstinate Toog is being they’d make a great vig shot.

...that is because I misread. For some reason I thought

MegAzumarill

was referencing someone else, namely you. That's my bad.

If you, however take this into consideration, then I feel like some players aren't doing much and therefore there's not enough potentially AI stuff to comment on, which is why I chose to join the

momo

wagon at the moment.

As for

Toogeloo

, my experience is that he has acted like this before and that his waffliness is most likely NAI.

[Vanderscamp]

1) I don’t like you adding emotion to posts that did not have any.
2) The post seems fake and I explained why.

The post from Toog was anyone not voting me didn’t have a town role PM.

That list is the people not voting Toog. I admittedly forgot Meg in a hurry and noted that.

Toog said suggesting a team of that many people (which is logically impossible) moves the game along.

The entire post just pinged me as weird.

This is not true btw, you said that Toog wasn't moving the game along, and Toog responded by laughing at the notion of moving the game along 10 posts in.

[Toogeloo]

I mean hell at this point with how obstinate Toog is being they’d make a great vig shot.

Maybe JV will "vig" me again.

[Vanderscamp]

Think dw would have moved off toog if scum, liked mala's interactions on page 4.

Think there must have been one scum at least out of the five people on the toog wagon (based on how quick it moved), immediate objective should be sorting there.

I don't like this, this feels extremely lazy.

When you say dwlee would have moved off as scum, do you mean if toog is scum too or with any alignment?

[Vanderscamp]

Is anyone voting for Toog voting because of the reasoning in 12? I'd be interested in hearing why

I voted Toog for claiming Ninja Godfather. Or whatever a "Reverse Miller Polar Bear in a Ninja Suit" is supposed to be.

Why did you think that was vote worthy?

Because I don't think claiming something that ridiculous when getting wagoned is a particularly townie thing to do.

Do you think toog should have been worried about the wagon or dying from it?

This can be an open question to everyone who is analysing the toog wagon votes btw.

What do you think the chances were of toog actually dying there from a collection of RVS votes, and what do you think any scum team (with or without toog) would have thought the chances were of toog dying from that wagon?

[Vanderscamp]

Because I get a strong impression of trying to look like solving but not any impression of solving.

It just feels theatrical almost

I agree

[Vanderscamp]

VOTE: Momo

First serious wagon of the game should be here
Only 3 posts so far (which is NAI) but 1 is an rvs vote, 1 gives lamist vibes, and the other feels like poor logic because it wasn't reasoned out and was just wanting to look solvey.

EBWOP

Not liking this vote from Meg.
Nagl when Jackson Virgo has less posts and just an RVS vote.
So why momo over JV?

Because I am super townie

On a serious note a lot has been happening unexpectedly such as flash flooding in my area and planning my sister moving in with me. I do apologize but I will post when I can.

I have been skimming the game but I will go through once more and post more in depth but Toog seems like town that doesn't know how to towntepp well to me at first glance. Do not have any other reads worthy of being calked out prior to my recatchup

Damn GL with the floods

[Vanderscamp]

VOTE: momo

[Toogeloo]

Vanderscamo gets a free town read for displaying common sense.

[Vanderscamp]

I dislike Roden's interaction with toog, I think the line about "town shouldn't need to say that they weren't afraid" was poor, when roden brought up toog being afraid in the first place, and I dislike toog's interaction with Math.
Math's request to write down reads on paper is not something I would ever actually do but I dislike how little toog tried into engage with Math on it when Math seemed to be offering toog a way out of being scumread (and I like this from math because it seems solvey). This would make sense if toog was confident Math was scum but they haven't said this to be the case.

[Toogeloo]

I don't give in to ridiculous demands.

[Roden]

Is anyone voting for Toog voting because of the reasoning in 12? I'd be interested in hearing why

I voted Toog for claiming Ninja Godfather. Or whatever a "Reverse Miller Polar Bear in a Ninja Suit" is supposed to be.

Why did you think that was vote worthy?

Because I don't think claiming something that ridiculous when getting wagoned is a particularly townie thing to do.

Do you think toog should have been worried about the wagon or dying from it?

This can be an open question to everyone who is analysing the toog wagon votes btw.

What do you think the chances were of toog actually dying there from a collection of RVS votes, and what do you think any scum team (with or without toog) would have thought the chances were of toog dying from that wagon?

It's a meme game and Toog gathered votes quickly. I've seen elims happen for dumber reasons sooner in the game in more serious games.

So I wouldn't say Toog should've been "worried" but uh maybe don't claim Ninja Godfather when you get run up if you're town.

[Roden]

I don't give in to ridiculous demands.

You were asked to play the game