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[Yeet]

My townread on Frogsterking also kind of dropped.

[Yeet]

Im not sure what you’re saying here Math. Oh and you can be town too.

Nero, I don’t. They were two independent points against your accusation.

How does a game with a majority of the players being good town (like Pooky and others) get the game so badly they wagon two masons instead of scum?

Because they can be wrong too…?

[VP Baltar]

prob b/c you are scum

"oh Nero is so afraid to vote" that's like manipulative as fuck

Yeah, it is. I want to see this flip and I'm going to call you on your fleeing from something you banged on half the day about wanting so badly.

If you expect me to believe you in your other reads like skitter scum, or whatever, you should stick to your word and flip Wu.

Right now, it just looks like Wu could flip red and you don't actually want that. You can't give me a reason why you've changed other than it seems to have happened when the wagon had actual steam.

[Yeet]

It’s D1 and we are poking around and pushing wagons and keeping the gamestate dynamic. We are not expecting a super high hit rate D1 in a large. I think the gamestate is fine.

[MathBlade]

Im not sure what you’re saying here Math. Oh and you can be town too.

Nero, I don’t. They were two independent points against your accusation.

How does a game with a majority of the players being good town (like Pooky and others) get the game so badly they wagon two masons instead of scum?

Because they can be wrong too…?

What’s more likely? An entire group of Mith level (to borrow someone else’s words) collectively as a group (not singing out Ari) flub the game badly then when confronted go “no you”
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Scum are on the wagons?

[Yeet]

We want to keep scum on their toes, not play timidly and stall in fear and stubbornness.

Pedit: I don’t believe even the “mith level players” have severely >rand reads on D1.

[Yeet]

One problem I have with fua is that I would classify their reactions are very “reactionary” or containing “naked aggression” or “subtly threatening”. I will quote some examples that I have seen from their interactions in me. I believe these to be scum traits when pushed.

[Scorpious]

Because fua is currently my top scumspect. It’s pretty simple…

A "bland Iso" is causing your biggest scumread right now?

I think you're full of it... It's a horrible reason to begin with,looking at their Iso makes it even worse.

Got anything better? you just made me really hate this wagon.

[Yeet]

VOTE: Fua

Frogsterking, I am ready to shake this tree with you.

Be careful when you shake a tree, because the apples don’t fall far from it.

Bland ISO? What do you want me to do, blown up like Nordom did?

Yeah, but the difference is that I’m not jumping on whatever the most popular wagon is just because it was in style to do so. I don’t see how SRing Ari, Deas. and Fire are lukewarm takes at all considering others look at them as consensus town and I’m interested in what your definition of lukewarm actually is. Who are your scumreads besides me? At the moment it just feels like OMGUS and nothing else. Even Skitter is voting me because my takes are the opposite of hers, so these are some strange double standards.

Fua, if you felt Ari was being scummy in the Ari v HEM fight why would you agree that Fire was scummy for being the mediator in that fight?

because now they decided I'm not the mediator anymore cause that doesn't suit the new narrative of me "hopping to Ari's defense" (which tbh is probably more accurate anyway, i believe I was on the side of REASON and LOGIC as always but i think that was more ari's side)

If you think I’m scum now you can always vote me.

Scum might honestly be just as easy as Wu, Yeet, Fire, and Ari.

“Yeah, that’s fair. I tend to be on the side of reason and logic sometimes” is apparently what you said there. Which makes zero sense in that context. This is just backpedaling.

[VP Baltar]

Because fua is currently my top scumspect. It’s pretty simple…

A "bland Iso" is causing your biggest scumread right now?

I think you're full of it... It's a horrible reason to begin with,looking at their Iso makes it even worse.

Got anything better? you just made me really hate this wagon.

would you vote Wu?

[Yeet]

Because fua is currently my top scumspect. It’s pretty simple…

A "bland Iso" is causing your biggest scumread right now?

I think you're full of it... It's a horrible reason to begin with,looking at their Iso makes it even worse.

Got anything better? you just made me really hate this wagon.

A bland, postury ISO is probably better than most scumreads one can get, imo. Also just gut something doesn’t sit right with me.

And i don’t understand how my singular reason made you hate the wagon. There are plenty of other people on this wagon.

[Yeet]

VP Baltar is also town. I feel like I’ve mentioned this before but I felt like reaffirming my stance here.

[fireisredsir]

Because fua is currently my top scumspect. It’s pretty simple…

A "bland Iso" is causing your biggest scumread right now?

I think you're full of it... It's a horrible reason to begin with,looking at their Iso makes it even worse.

Got anything better? you just made me really hate this wagon.

1968 has the summary. you've played with scum fua before, do you think they are more buddying and trying to get townread as maf?

[Yeet]

Because fua is currently my top scumspect. It’s pretty simple…

A "bland Iso" is causing your biggest scumread right now?

I think you're full of it... It's a horrible reason to begin with,looking at their Iso makes it even worse.

Got anything better? you just made me really hate this wagon.

1968 has the summary. you've played with scum fua before, do you think they are more buddying and trying to get townread as maf?

I like this.

[fireisredsir]

(i already know the answer to that is yes)

[Yeet]

Because fua is currently my top scumspect. It’s pretty simple…

A "bland Iso" is causing your biggest scumread right now?

I think you're full of it... It's a horrible reason to begin with,looking at their Iso makes it even worse.

Got anything better? you just made me really hate this wagon.

I feel weird about this post. It’s taunty and I don’t understand why town would be taunty to me here.

[Scorpious]

Because fua is currently my top scumspect. It’s pretty simple…

A "bland Iso" is causing your biggest scumread right now?

I think you're full of it... It's a horrible reason to begin with,looking at their Iso makes it even worse.

Got anything better? you just made me really hate this wagon.

1968 has the summary. you've played with scum fua before, do you think they are more buddying and trying to get townread as maf?

No, not really. They did start stronger than they finished in our game but the posts up to this point seem less calculated.

[Scorpious]

To be fair. I was also scum that game so I might be skewed a bit.

[VP Baltar]

idk if i trust the people (tene) who jumped on that to vote for fua tho. yeet had already voted with 1629 and 1635, frogster wanted a lim there apparently but i can't find any reasoning, and skitter had voted with 1372

I think your Nero sheeping case against fua makes some sense. On this quoted part, are you citing this as evidence for or against the fua wagon?

[fireisredsir]

i was hesitant to trust tene, so for me personally that was a point against it. the other points i was just giving you other people's voting reasons, not really evidence for or against from my pov. just giving you the full case.

i also think that ari made a good point that scum would probably want to cooperate with math in this situation if he's wrong, which fua did

[Nero Cain]

i'm goin to do my best NM impression this game and hammer any of Ari, Fua or Wu get to L-1

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VOTE: Nero Cain

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Ranged attacks are accompanied by a "Range Y" value, which means any enemy within Y hexes can be targeted by the attack. Any ranged attack targeting an adjacent enemy gains Disadvantage against that target.

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Official Votecount 1.14

fua (6): skitter30, Yeet, Aristeia, tenebrousluminary, Frogsterking, fireisredsir

[E-4]

Aristeia (4): humaneatingmonkey, MathBlade, fua, Save The Dragons
GeneralWu (2): VP Baltar, Datisi
Eyes without a face (1): Cape90
Nero Cain (1): Nero Cain

Not Voting (5): Scorpious, DeasVail, MalcolmTucker, Eyes without a face, GeneralWu

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-03-12 05:15:00).

click here for joined mod iso.

[Scorpious]

i'm goin to do my best NM impression this game and hammer any of Ari, Fua or Wu get to L-1

Noted..