Open 847 - Trust Fall [Game Over]

[Pavowski]

Greeting, looks like you have town!Duck and scum!Meuh

Do you think you're getting off the island or is it gonna be you and me and the scumteam?

[Prism]

Trust Tracker 2.2

Player	Trust Voter
Kuriyama (1)	Ydrasse (1101)
Ydrasse (1)	the worst (1156)
Distrustful (6)	chavela, Pavowski, Greeting, bugspray, Meuh, Kuriyama

No valid trust pairing has been formed. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2022-03-18 11:00:00).

[Pavowski]

Okay my head is really doing me in, and the thing that's bugging me is this

Why has nobody trusted Chav today? It's the replacement trio playing footsie with each other which is ... interesting but

scum!Chav was around when HEM gave warning they'd accept Enchant's trust, kept talking back and forth, and basically had every opportunity to accept their own trust before letting HEM/Enchant jump, but did not take that opportunity

I don't see why scum lets that slip

So I'm gonna trust Chav tomorrow morning unless somebody has a really good reason to talk me out of it ... whether Chav accepts or not I'm gonna at least toss a trust this game

[Kuriyama]

Why has nobody trusted Chav today? It's the replacement trio playing footsie with each other which is ... interesting but

because it doesn't move the game state forward in any way and is thus useless and a waste of a trust?

She is universally townread, said she doesn't want to leave yet, and mechanically more or less conf'd by HEM trusting her.

If she wants to leave the game, she can just trust whoever she wants and tell that person to trust her and she will leave.

It seems kind of pointless to send a trust towards her.

[Kuriyama]

Greeting, looks like you have town!Duck and scum!Meuh

Do you think you're getting off the island or is it gonna be you and me and the scumteam?

who is the scum team you are talking about?

[Pavowski]

Decent chance of the worst, greeting, bugs, Meuh

Gut is telling me there's one in the replacements but probably not two, and duck would check that box

[Pavowski]

Okay I tried and it's a bad idea to keep trying, I know my activity sucks, I'll try again tomorrow

[Kuriyama]

Decent chance of the worst, greeting, bugs, Meuh

Gut is telling me there's one in the replacements but probably not two, and duck would check that box

it's weird because you said meuh is not one of them but now you are saying she is?

[Kuriyama]

what posts are you scumreading duckie for?

[the worst]

DUCK do you think I'm scum because lurk or because other reasons?

Lurk is a reduction but not a bad reduction. I feel like you're really struggling to sink your teeth into this game and I think we're in a gamestate where its likely disproportionately difficult for scum to do so.

[the worst]

Okay my head is really doing me in, and the thing that's bugging me is this

Why has nobody trusted Chav today? It's the replacement trio playing footsie with each other which is ... interesting but

scum!Chav was around when HEM gave warning they'd accept Enchant's trust, kept talking back and forth, and basically had every opportunity to accept their own trust before letting HEM/Enchant jump, but did not take that opportunity

I don't see why scum lets that slip

So I'm gonna trust Chav tomorrow morning unless somebody has a really good reason to talk me out of it ... whether Chav accepts or not I'm gonna at least toss a trust this game

Fairly simple for me. I don't think my goal is to find my one true love to leave with and be happy ever after. My goal is to find 6-8 town or 1-2 scum. Trusting ydrasse felt right, and I needed more on ydrasse's alignment.

Chavela already is what she is. Eventually, she'll leave the game and almost certainly flip town. We don't need to sort her further imo so using my one trust for the day on her wouldn't be valuable!

[bugspray]

why woulkd i not lurk if n'yall win the game for me?

[Kuriyama]

bugspray makes a great point

[the worst]

do you generally agree with consensus bugs?

[bugspray]

do you generally agree with consensus bugs?

i don't really see a strong consensus

[Greeting]

Greeting, looks like you have town!Duck and scum!Meuh

Do you think you're getting off the island or is it gonna be you and me and the scumteam?

You are correct about me townreading

the worst

, but incorrect about me scumreading

Meuh

. She could very well be town, it’s just not everything in the game she said is pointing to it. This game is townhunting and not scumhunting so I believe there is no point in differentiating scumreads from nullreads.

I think it will be quite unlikely for most players to offer a trust to me so it’ll have to be someone accepting my trust and truthfully, at the moment I don’t trust the majority well enough. So yeah, everything so far is pointing towards me staying until lategame and possibly endgame.

As for you, I don’t see myself extending a trust offer to you, nor do I see anyone else doing that so scum or town, you’re likely to stay in the game too.

[Pavowski]

DUCK do you think I'm scum because lurk or because other reasons?

Lurk is a reduction but not a bad reduction. I feel like you're really struggling to sink your teeth into this game and I think we're in a gamestate where its likely disproportionately difficult for scum to do so.

The first part is fair and probably accurate, but i don't see how that = scum

Like the game blew up from roughly 20 pages to 40ish in just a couple of (weekend!) days and the talk is leave Pav on the island so yeah, I'm struggling to find my way back into this game

I dunno I guess that's my fault as much as anything but

Anyway

[Pavowski]

Decent chance of the worst, greeting, bugs, Meuh

Gut is telling me there's one in the replacements but probably not two, and duck would check that box

it's weird because you said meuh is not one of them but now you are saying she is?

I don't recall saying I townread Meuh but I am sure you have receipts

[the worst]

I'm not saying I dont understand why youre finding this game difficult. Just that I can see that you are. Where are your reads at rn?

[Pavowski]

what posts are you scumreading duckie for?

The scumread on the duck is not really the duck's fault

[Pavowski]

I'm not saying I dont understand why youre finding this game difficult. Just that I can see that you are. Where are your reads at rn?

Lightning round as I'm heading in to work

I agree with greetings self assessment and will have a hard time trusting there
Bugs is just weird and math is a red flag for me
Meuh I think tonally is fine but gut kinda screams watch out
You replaced into a tough slot and i think you're working hard against a tide that may or may not be fair to you, I don't love your Ydra trust and think Ydra is right to hold off on taking it... More below

The rest are varying degrees of townlean I'd probably trust without too much reservation
Chav I've spoken on and hardly need to at this point
Kuri feels solvey and even though I'm not happy about the way they locked into a scumread of me on page 4 and haven't let go, I think they're town
Ydra replaced into another slot I was scummy on but is helping the slot a lot and not for nothing is sitting on a trust they could just dip with, so there's that

Sorry posting from phone so this kinda looks like trash

[Pavowski]

I am seeing the wisdom in not trusting chav tho this morning so maybe I'll throw it at one of those in my not-so-sure list

Lunchtime feels like a good time to do that

[chavela]

sorry for absence - around in ~3 hours

[chavela]

trust kuriyama

because part of wave towards town!enchant town!humaneatingmonkey?

[chavela]

Yeah this flip probably just makes The Worst scum

but why tho

doesn't it make the worst townier? or am i misunderstanding something?

like norwegianboyee was strong voice of enchant town yeah?