Mini 2265: Bears with Guns 2: Pandamonium game over

Malakittens · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:44 pm

In post 640, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 634, wavemode wrote:is there an actual case on CSF aside from the fact that JV misread her 495

if there is I missed it
I think Cat only cares about their appearance and is currently in lay low mode hoping this push will pass and something new and shiny shows up to take off the heat.

i'm down to lim wavemode too

lowkey my list reads something like this (no order really)

Town // Null // Scum

Math/SM // Townlean: Vander // null: Dwlee/Toog/CSF // scum: Toog, Meg, JV, Wavemode, Greeting

wavemode · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:53 am

In post 650, Malakittens wrote:i'm down to lim wavemode too

on the basis of what

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:34 am

In post 644, MathBlade wrote:
In post 636, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 633, MathBlade wrote:More a vote of consolidation frustration. None of the wagons I want are progressing and explanations don’t help
So I would rather flip who you are saying then use your flip and that person as a barometer for the game. I will be dead and you will be dead so it’s like whatever
Can you throw your cases my way in one post preferably instead of quotes because as it stands now I think we both are on as good ground as we are gonna get and I want to read from a state such as this rather than when I was repulsed by your gamestate
I don’t have time for cases no

And I am a wee bit tipsy because bday weekend

Pretty sure my cases would be more unintelligible than usual

As in you will never have time, or just because you're tipsy

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:36 am

In post 645, MathBlade wrote:Mines more strategic

If you’re scum CSF town then Toog or Dwlee scum is pretty much proven
If you’re town CSF town then town knows that find scum on wagon
If you’re town CSF scum then woo hoo we got something out of it
And if you’re scum and CSF scum then hooray

So I kinda see no point towards doing the brain engagey shit while tipsy

There case done much as I care too atm

No I do understand the incentive to vote CSF here, I was talking about the other wagons that you said were not getting any traction today. I want to look over them in case I personally am ego-tunnelling like I claimed you were. I understand your circumstances though as to not post immediately however as I am writing this I am unsure how long of the day we have left.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:36 am

In post 648, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Jackson you are almost singularly focused on me. If you genuinely think that not having scumreads is scummy, what are your other reads?

I've stated my other reads, quite obviously prior to my push on you. Maybe read the game

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:37 am

In post 648, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Jackson you are almost singularly focused on me. If you genuinely think that not having scumreads is scummy, what are your other reads?

And once again, you're strawmanning my argument.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:38 am

In post 651, wavemode wrote:
In post 650, Malakittens wrote:i'm down to lim wavemode too
on the basis of what

Your avie :lol:

Nero Cain · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:42 am

MegAzumarill

and

Vanderscamp

have been prodded

StrangeMatter · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:44 am

In post 646, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 621, StrangeMatter wrote:
In post 616, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 586, StrangeMatter wrote:Well, it's mostly the scumleans they have which I find are odd reasons that just gives the impression of "I need to have scumleans in my reads list." over thinking, "These people are leaning towards being scum to me." is a really odd and their reasons don't feel very fleshed out to say how they could be scummy or be an actual read.
Which reasons didn't feel fleshed out?
I already highlighted which reasons weren't fleshed out, which were the scumleans that you put down making sense to me as someone who made things up on the spot.
I was asking more which reasons do you think weren't real or fleshed out, because this is very vague? And by not fleshed out, do you mean to say that they were underexplained or did you feel that the reasons were flimsy and/or not scum indicative?

In post 493, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Dwlee - scumreads toog and that's kind of it --->
nullscum

Greeting - they seem to be pushing people for doing weird/bizarre things that are anti-town while ignoring the town things about them --->
nullscum

@CSF. These feel flimsy logic, especially your scumlean on Dwlee, which really wasn't explained or really to me feels very scum indicative, especially looking through Dwlee's ISO. I don't disagree with the logic behind your Greetings read (and I'm thinking is potentially less likely to be made up), though it is definitely underexplained and not looked into after that makes me a think it might have just been made up.

Toogeloo · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:45 am

In post 645, MathBlade wrote:Mines more strategic

If you’re scum CSF town then Toog or Dwlee scum is pretty much proven
If you’re town CSF town then town knows that find scum on wagon
If you’re town CSF scum then woo hoo we got something out of it
And if you’re scum and CSF scum then hooray

So I kinda see no point towards doing the brain engagey shit while tipsy

There case done much as I care too atm

Um... Anyone remember what I posted day 1 about Scum blade?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:50 am

In post 659, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 645, MathBlade wrote:Mines more strategic

If you’re scum CSF town then Toog or Dwlee scum is pretty much proven
If you’re town CSF town then town knows that find scum on wagon
If you’re town CSF scum then woo hoo we got something out of it
And if you’re scum and CSF scum then hooray

So I kinda see no point towards doing the brain engagey shit while tipsy

There case done much as I care too atm
Um... Anyone remember what I posted day 1 about Scum blade?

Could you repost?

Nero Cain · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:07 am

Dwlee99

has been prodded.

Greeting · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:15 am

Why does

Meg

feels so aloof in this game? In the past games I've played with them they were the motor for either alignment they were. We were at odds often, but in the end I thought their play was really good.

In this game it feels like they really don't care that much.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:20 am

In post 645, MathBlade wrote:Mines more strategic

If you’re scum CSF town then Toog or Dwlee scum is pretty much proven
If you’re town CSF town then town knows that find scum on wagon
If you’re town CSF scum then woo hoo we got something out of it
And if you’re scum and CSF scum then hooray

So I kinda see no point towards doing the brain engagey shit while tipsy

There case done much as I care too atm

Why am I scum with JV?

Greeting · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:21 am

In post 604, Malakittens wrote: Again, I hate when people refer to themselves as "lhf". obv if you know you are then you need to find a way to correct your playstle : re greeting.

There was just one game where I clearly didn't care to solve. In all of the other games I've clearly been trying to find out the scumteam, often with decent results.

The question is: do I need to correct my playstyle or do others need to correct their judgement of my play?

Malakittens · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 am

In post 662, Greeting wrote:Why does
Meg
feels so aloof in this game? In the past games I've played with them they were the motor for either alignment they were. We were at odds often, but in the end I thought their play was really good.

In this game it feels like they really don't care that much.

This is something I agree with. I feel like they are a nonentity this game & that bothers me.

Greeting · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:31 am

In post 665, Malakittens wrote:
In post 662, Greeting wrote:Why does
Meg
feels so aloof in this game? In the past games I've played with them they were the motor for either alignment they were. We were at odds often, but in the end I thought their play was really good.

In this game it feels like they really don't care that much.
This is something I agree with. I feel like they are a nonentity this game & that bothers me.

I feel like their contributions are in the bottom half of the playerlist for this game.

Thing is, I don't know if this is AI. I played with them in Newbie 2084 and they did a really good job as scum in that game.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:53 am

In post 663, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 645, MathBlade wrote:Mines more strategic

If you’re scum CSF town then Toog or Dwlee scum is pretty much proven
If you’re town CSF town then town knows that find scum on wagon
If you’re town CSF scum then woo hoo we got something out of it
And if you’re scum and CSF scum then hooray

So I kinda see no point towards doing the brain engagey shit while tipsy

There case done much as I care too atm
Why am I scum with JV?

You aren't, as I am not scum <3

Dwlee99 · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:56 am

But the logic makes no sense

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:04 am

In post 668, Dwlee99 wrote:But the logic makes no sense

How so?

They claim that
1. If I am scum, and CSF is Town. Dwee/Toog are the most likely scum pairs
2. If I am Town. CSF Town. Scum is on wagon.
3. I am I Town, CSF scum. Scum dead yay
4. I am scum. CSF scum. Both scum dead in this situation (this is impossible btw, as I am forcing my death here and I wouldn't push CSF

and

bus here)

What makes no sense about that.

MathBlade · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:33 am

It’s just all logical bases here so it kinda makes sense to vote CSF here

If you take JV’s alignment as heads and CSF’s alignment as tails and take four coins on a table and arrange them you cover all bases.

Then ask what each alignment means

Dwlee99 · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:50 am

But I don't get how toog or I'd alignment is at all related to you or CSF's

MathBlade · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:57 am

I tried to start wagons on you and Toog. They both failed

Nothing is really picking up traction so between trying to wagon inactives and no pressure on inactives make me sus you all more.

StrangeMatter · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:03 am

Happy birthday by the way. I'm going to be back soon, I'm currently busy.

Toogeloo · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:38 am

In post 660, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 659, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 645, MathBlade wrote:Mines more strategic

If you’re scum CSF town then Toog or Dwlee scum is pretty much proven
If you’re town CSF town then town knows that find scum on wagon
If you’re town CSF scum then woo hoo we got something out of it
And if you’re scum and CSF scum then hooray

So I kinda see no point towards doing the brain engagey shit while tipsy

There case done much as I care too atm
Um... Anyone remember what I posted day 1 about Scum blade?
Could you repost?

In post 69, Toogeloo wrote:Math tries to distract with setup solving as scum. If he's not legit pushing reads and is instead playing like, "if X is true, then Y must be the scum, but if X is not true, it might be Z," then I'd say Math is Mafia. He does a lot of busy work that doesn't actually solve anything in order to look like he's trying.