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Post Post #4550 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:56 am

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You're yucky!
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Post Post #4551 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:56 am

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We really dont need another day phase of me defending VPB and pushing Malcolm. I'd really like to move onto my DV/Fire stuff.
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Post Post #4552 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:57 am

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Also, if Malcolm flips scum, suspicion on me can go away other than saying I bussed. If Malcolm flips town, I lose a lot of credibility anyways.

Win-win-win for everyone.
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Post Post #4553 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:59 am

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like a lack of credibility is going to stop you from pushing a DV/Fire scum and prob get sheeps from scum.
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Post Post #4554 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:05 am

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In post 4543, Scorpious wrote:I kinda stopped caring sometime last Thursday.

Who wants my vote?
Me. :)
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Post Post #4555 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:07 am

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In post 4554, April Ludgate wrote:Also, if Malcolm flips scum, suspicion on me can go away other than saying I bussed. If Malcolm flips town, I lose a lot of credibility anyways.

Win-win-win for everyone.
I’d rather elim scum.

You’re looking pretty bad atm.

VP’s defense of Galron’s scumslip was terrible and you just ignoring it is horrible.

VP+Galron+you is looking pretty lock step.
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Post Post #4556 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:08 am

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In post 4557, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4554, April Ludgate wrote:Also, if Malcolm flips scum, suspicion on me can go away other than saying I bussed. If Malcolm flips town, I lose a lot of credibility anyways.

Win-win-win for everyone.
I’d rather elim scum.

You’re looking pretty bad atm.

VP’s defense of Galron’s scumslip was terrible and you just ignoring it is horrible.

VP+Galron+you is looking pretty lock step.
Nah, your reads are off.
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Post Post #4557 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:08 am

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In post 4555, Nero Cain wrote:like a lack of credibility is going to stop you from pushing a DV/Fire scum and prob get sheeps from scum.
probs.
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Post Post #4558 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:09 am

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In post 4555, Nero Cain wrote:like a lack of credibility is going to stop you from pushing a DV/Fire scum and prob get sheeps from scum.
to be fair, I win the majority of my town games.
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Post Post #4559 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:09 am

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april, what would you say the wagon on galron means? if you think it's yucky, does that mean you think galron is likely town? is scum taking action? why, and who?

and if galron flipped maf what would that tell you?
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Post Post #4560 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:10 am

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yes but are you the one that solves them?
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Post Post #4561 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:11 am

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In post 4558, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 4557, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4554, April Ludgate wrote:Also, if Malcolm flips scum, suspicion on me can go away other than saying I bussed. If Malcolm flips town, I lose a lot of credibility anyways.

Win-win-win for everyone.
I’d rather elim scum.

You’re looking pretty bad atm.

VP’s defense of Galron’s scumslip was terrible and you just ignoring it is horrible.

VP+Galron+you is looking pretty lock step.
Nah, your reads are off.
Then prove it.

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Post Post #4562 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:13 am

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In post 4561, fireisredsir wrote:april, what would you say the wagon on galron means? if you think it's yucky, does that mean you think galron is likely town? is scum taking action? why, and who?

and if galron flipped maf what would that tell you?
Galron was a direct response to Malcolm wagon starting up, and it had momentum because Math mason is coming from a warped perspective due to being conf town, so it had fuel from a mason.

If Galron flipped Mafia, there's probably scum sheeping me, even if Malcolm/Galron is scum, it could be them feeding another scum, but it would likely lower malcolm a little for me, not a lot, but definitely some.
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Post Post #4563 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:13 am

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This still doesn’t address the clear scum slip from Galron and VP’s defense.

“You’re wrong” doesn’t address that.
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Post Post #4564 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:13 am

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In post 4562, Nero Cain wrote:yes but are you the one that solves them?
I catch a couple scum generally every town game I play in that I'm not night killed in. I am night killed in the majority of my town games.
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Post Post #4565 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:14 am

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I really don’t think that was a scum slip math
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Post Post #4566 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:14 am

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In post 4564, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 4561, fireisredsir wrote:april, what would you say the wagon on galron means? if you think it's yucky, does that mean you think galron is likely town? is scum taking action? why, and who?

and if galron flipped maf what would that tell you?
Galron was a direct response to Malcolm wagon starting up, and it had momentum because Math mason is coming from a warped perspective due to being conf town, so it had fuel from a mason.

If Galron flipped Mafia, there's probably scum sheeping me, even if Malcolm/Galron is scum, it could be them feeding another scum, but it would likely lower malcolm a little for me, not a lot, but definitely some.
Lmao I started the Galron wagon. And my perspective isn’t warped because mason lmao. If anything it’s clearer due to having been vibing with someone else rather than solitary.

Like what?
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Post Post #4567 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:15 am

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In post 4566, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 4562, Nero Cain wrote:yes but are you the one that solves them?
I catch a couple scum generally every town game I play in that I'm not night killed in. I am night killed in the majority of my town games.
You’re not town so this is irrelevant lmao.
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Post Post #4568 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:15 am

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Can anyone actually explain why Malcolm is town?
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Post Post #4569 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:15 am

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I don't care about scum slips like that. I'm more likely to scum slip as town than I am as scum, so I don't really feel that's a slip. Galron is a compromise fade, and just like that pilates/yoga fusion class i took years back, compromise takes away the best things about each.
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Post Post #4570 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:16 am

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I don’t feel Malcolm has done anything particularly townie so I don’t love the deflection to Galron who I do feel is very very likely to be town
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Post Post #4571 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:16 am

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I mean he gave me like a little pause earlier but just not nearly enough for me to get off him
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Post Post #4572 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:17 am

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Much like chess, people do go problems to help improve their reading and learn about tricky situations. A common form of go problem are
tsumego
which are to do with the life and death of groups. Here is an example.






Official Votecount 2.17MalcolmTucker (6): Eyes without a face, Yeet, April Ludgate, Scorpious, Galron, VP Baltar
[E-3]

Galron (6): MathBlade, Cape90, fireisredsir, tenebrousluminary, Enchant, MalcolmTucker
[E-3]

VP Baltar (4): Nero Cain, Frogsterking, DeasVail, Titus
Scorpious (1): Save the Dragons

Not Voting (0):

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2022-03-16 09:20:00).

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Post Post #4573 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:18 am

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In post 4569, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4566, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 4562, Nero Cain wrote:yes but are you the one that solves them?
I catch a couple scum generally every town game I play in that I'm not night killed in. I am night killed in the majority of my town games.
You’re not town so this is irrelevant lmao.
Your reads are completely off, so this is irrelevant.

It's a typical missing the mark mason slot, not even if your fault, the game just revolves that way.

However, if you're pushing me with the intent of trying to stay alive, then fine. I'm kinda all for it, because that is the best type of defense you have bar PR actions for not getting killed in the night.

You also said you'd give me a chance to catch scum early in this day phase, and you haven't even let me get a flip, so you're just kinda going back on your word and simply discrediting aimlessly, so I'm kinda just letting you do whatever while I try to find scum.
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Post Post #4574 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:18 am

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I fatfingered. VC here viewtopic.php?p=13294195#p13294195

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