Mini 2265: Bears with Guns 2: Pandamonium game over

Greeting · Post Post #750 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:48 am

Malakittens

has been far less active, but I don't think that's AI since the game kinda died down altogether. We've all kinda been less active. Plus, people think that whole fight we had is not indicative of her being scum. So this elimination is not going to happen and I guess I just have to suck it up. I am strongly for eliminating someone today and to do that, I'll have to compromise.

Sorry,

Dwlee99

, I don't want to vote out

MathBlade

today. I simply think the slot is more likely to be town than scum and nothing happened to make me think otherwise. My reads haven't changed since I last posted them.

I am very torn. I want to vote

Cat Scratch Fever

, but the fact that

JacksonVirgo

is on that is stopping me. I honestly don't know why Day 2 is so weird. My gut is telling me that scums are being idle right now and hoping that town will redirect their attention somewhere else. I guess the other alternative is

MegAzumarill

.

Let's go with that. VOTE: MegAzumarill

wavemode · Post Post #751 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:53 am

everything JV said about CSF applies 10 times more validly to strangematter this game. I would say very blatantly and obviously so

60 posts yet no real hard stances. it's all just been questions and filler

almost her entire scum pool is just based on "associations"

this flips scum, plain and simple

wavemode · Post Post #752 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:54 am

18 hours, people

I would also go dwlee

I'm not voting megaz or CSF

StrangeMatter · Post Post #753 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:56 am

In post 751, wavemode wrote:everything JV said about CSF applies 10 times more validly to strangematter this game. I would say very blatantly and obviously so

60 posts yet no real hard stances. it's all just been questions and filler

almost her entire scum pool is just based on "associations"

this flips scum, plain and simple

And what do you think I've been trying to do with said questions? Not solve maybe try to solve using questions, using what I have seen, and getting responses out of that?

Stop making things up about me about having no hard stances because you're just straight up lying about that.

Nero Cain · Post Post #754 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:57 am

Vote Count 2.6

Panda fact #21: Pandas can't actually use guns.

[4]Cat Scratch Fever:

JacksonVirgo, Toogeloo, MathBlade, StrangeMatter

[2]StrangeMatter:

Cat Scratch Fever, wavemode

[2]MegAzumarill:

Enchant, Greeting

[1]Greeting:

Malakittens

[1]wavemode:

MegAzumarill

[1]MathBlade:

Dwlee99

Not Voting (0):

With 11 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, March 18th at 5:30ish pm CST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-03-18 08:00:00)

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #755 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:58 am

In post 751, wavemode wrote:everything JV said about CSF applies 10 times more validly to strangematter this game. I would say very blatantly and obviously so

60 posts yet no real hard stances. it's all just been questions and filler

almost her entire scum pool is just based on "associations"

this flips scum, plain and simple

Oh? I'll have to re-read what Strange has said this game as I do not recall this being the case.

StrangeMatter · Post Post #756 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:07 am

You can literally look through my ISO too to prove that you're wrong about your hard stances argument.

wavemode · Post Post #757 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:13 am

In post 753, StrangeMatter wrote:getting responses out of that

and you've done exactly nothing with those responses. all you have is an OMGUS vote on CSF and "associations" from it

In post 756, StrangeMatter wrote:You can literally look through my ISO too to prove that you're wrong about your hard stances argument.

find me a single post of yours before CSF voted you, in which you stated any confident read on anyone in this game. I will wait

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #758 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:17 am

In post 725, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay I've done thinking

VOTE: MathBlade

I think this is scum

Looking back to D1, the hammer on Momo is extremely out of character for MathBlade. It seems like straight up openwolfing where the Math I'm used to cares a lot about claims and mech but here he just completely blew off Momo even getting a chance to claim. Momo's last post is them at E-2.

I think what Toog said about Math's scum pattern is also +++ which is why I revised my read on Toog. From Math's point of view it makes no sense to do this "oh well let's lim CSF to prove JV is scum" cause shouldn't JV just die tonight anyway? Unless the poisoner is a fake claim that they plan to "unpoison" JV tonight the whole thing just smells fake

I think they are as well, but I also feel CSF is scum. And that CSF is a better elim as they aren't a PR claim, and I also feel I might be biased as they are hard-tunnelling me (while still not? lol).

If this does get pushed over CSF I am not going to complain, but for now I'll be staying of CSF.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #759 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:17 am

Wait holy fuck who pushed me because of mom's lack of a claim.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #760 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:17 am

Was that Math? I feel it was math, if it was I want them out

MathBlade · Post Post #761 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:19 am

v/la because work

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #762 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:19 am

In post 727, MegAzumarill wrote:I refuse to vote for mathblade today
You should too.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk

Posting to keep this in my ISO.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #763 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:21 am

In post 734, Dwlee99 wrote:Also: MathBlade is claiming JOAT when we have a flipped JOAT if you're into mech arguments

I feel this is a bit of a strawman argument (if that's the right one) as they didn't necessarily claim JOAT did they? Just claimed they had two related abilities, poison and then a heal, which to be honest is kind of a stupid combination to have with a Town role.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #764 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:21 am

In post 735, Dwlee99 wrote:Another thing I just thought about: Because math keeps saying JV could die any night, he has given himself until D4 if we're just completely tabling him until we see if the kill goes through or not, and the kill doesn't confirm Math's alignment anyway as previously mentioned.

I like you

MathBlade · Post Post #765 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:21 am

In post 760, JacksonVirgo wrote:Was that Math? I feel it was math, if it was I want them out

I wanted you dead soon as you claimed vig doctor

I hammered momo because it was an acceptable risk given I was a Joat. The odds of momo being scum without a claim went up exponentially. Mala challenged me to see how strong my read was and because of me being the PR I am I took that risk.

If you hammer me while VLA good luck. I think what I have done and continue to do is the mechanically smart play.

StrangeMatter · Post Post #766 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:23 am

In post 403, StrangeMatter wrote:This being theater is unlikely to be honest, so its either TVT (most likely here to me), or SVT, but definitely not SVS here.

In post 742, StrangeMatter wrote:We really need to eliminate someone soon. I don't feel like risking it on claimed PR even if the alignment has yet to be determined, so I'd prefer not to be eliminating that slot (though it's entirely possible Mafmen is faking parts of their role, I've seen way too many suspicions of a PR go extremely poorly to let that slide).

Plus I didn't talk about it but I was fairly certain Mafman was town, and I was fairly certain there that it was in fact TVT. I haven't been doing nothing with those responses (I haven't said my thoughts much), I've looked at people's reads trying to look at it from under different perspectives, and I didn't end up with as much as I believed.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #767 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:23 am

In post 742, StrangeMatter wrote:We really need to eliminate someone soon. I don't feel like risking it on claimed PR even if the alignment has yet to be determined, so I'd prefer not to be eliminating that slot (though it's entirely possible Mafmen is faking parts of their role, I've seen way too many suspicions of a PR go extremely poorly to let that slide).

In post 743, Dwlee99 wrote:The only alternative is the wagon that my main scum suspect is on so...

This is actually fair

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #768 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:24 am

Not the strange matter post. Dwlee's, was gonna comment on 742 but chose against it

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #769 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:25 am

In post 750, Greeting wrote:I am very torn. I want to vote Cat Scratch Fever, but the fact that JacksonVirgo is on that is stopping me. I honestly don't know why Day 2 is so weird. My gut is telling me that scums are being idle right now and hoping that town will redirect their attention somewhere else. I guess the other alternative is MegAzumarill.

What's your issue with me specifically? Maybe I can rectify that read now that I am out of the "attack everyone" phase.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #770 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:25 am

In post 752, wavemode wrote:18 hours, people

I would also go dwlee

I'm not voting megaz or CSF

I'd be against dwell their last few posts have made them incredibly townie in my eyes.

Toogeloo · Post Post #771 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:28 am

In post 763, JacksonVirgo wrote:they didn't necessarily claim JOAT did they?

Pretty sure he did. He claimed to have the poison, the cure, and one other unclaimed ability.

He also just reclaimed it again just a few posts after this quoted post...

In post 765, MathBlade wrote:I hammered momo because it was an acceptable risk given I was a Joat.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #772 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:28 am

In post 765, MathBlade wrote:
In post 760, JacksonVirgo wrote:Was that Math? I feel it was math, if it was I want them out
I wanted you dead soon as you claimed vig doctor

I hammered momo because it was an acceptable risk given I was a Joat. The odds of momo being scum without a claim went up exponentially. Mala challenged me to see how strong my read was and because of me being the PR I am I took that risk.

If you hammer me while VLA good luck. I think what I have done and continue to do is the mechanically smart play.

Is that a threat to eliminating you? Bruh
Also I think it's you if that was you that pushed me against not voting momo because of my earlier moment where I thought momo was obviously a PR looking back by not claiming. You had fully caught up and thus should have caught that, but chose not to. Which I want to delve further into before moving my main suspicion onto you.

I am wary of doing so because I know I get biased easily and I'd like to remove that as much as I can.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #773 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:29 am

In post 771, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 763, JacksonVirgo wrote:they didn't necessarily claim JOAT did they?
Pretty sure he did. He claimed to have the poison, the cure, and one other unclaimed ability.

He also just reclaimed it again just a few posts after this quoted post...
In post 765, MathBlade wrote:I hammered momo because it was an acceptable risk given I was a Joat.

They claimed JOAT after the JOAT flipped no? I also never read what momos role actually was so wasn't aware they were a JOAT anyway owo.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #774 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:30 am

In post 773, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 771, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 763, JacksonVirgo wrote:they didn't necessarily claim JOAT did they?
Pretty sure he did. He claimed to have the poison, the cure, and one other unclaimed ability.

He also just reclaimed it again just a few posts after this quoted post...
In post 765, MathBlade wrote:I hammered momo because it was an acceptable risk given I was a Joat.
They claimed JOAT after the JOAT flipped no? I also never read what momos role actually was so wasn't aware they were a JOAT anyway owo.

I say this because scum would probably not claim a similar role to a dead PR would they not?