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I think VP is trying to end the day early and make it look like I'm bussing him to set me up to get mislimmedBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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but wouldn't he self if he was srs about not wanting to play?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I am not answering this again.In post 5652, Cape90 wrote:
Scorpius is literally the biggest question mark right now, how are they town, their plays make very little sense tbhIn post 5548, tenebrousluminary wrote:Scorpious - town-
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Because I pushed Yeet all D1 and then EoD2 Math told me he thought it really was Yeet after all and I got excited. Malcolm and Wu weren't my ideas so when they flipped town I thought my reads might still be on trackIn post 5676, Cape90 wrote:
butIn post 5619, Frogsterking wrote:I was getting discouraged after Yeet's flip
why afterYeet'sflip?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Along with your townread on me earlier Frogster, wouldn't this also just point to me being town?In post 4724, Frogsterking wrote:In post 4457, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: galron
front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.
Here, VP flipped his read from a hard scumread on Cape to a hard townread on Cape, it's not consistent with VP's outted reads and is scum motivated.In post 4465, VP Baltar wrote:
I think galron is more likely to flip scum based on his flaky play since coming into the game, and I don't think two scum in the hood, so that would make you town.In post 4463, Cape90 wrote:
Front half? I am town now?In post 4457, VP Baltar wrote:front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.-
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Frogsterking He/himJack of All TradesHe/him
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Yeah there's probably another example too, it's a clear patternIn post 5681, Cape90 wrote:
Along with your townread on me earlier Frogster, wouldn't this also just point to me being town?In post 4724, Frogsterking wrote:In post 4457, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: galron
front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.
Here, VP flipped his read from a hard scumread on Cape to a hard townread on Cape, it's not consistent with VP's outted reads and is scum motivated.In post 4465, VP Baltar wrote:
I think galron is more likely to flip scum based on his flaky play since coming into the game, and I don't think two scum in the hood, so that would make you town.In post 4463, Cape90 wrote:
Front half? I am town now?In post 4457, VP Baltar wrote:front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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My fault. For some reason I was attributing tene's readslist to you.In post 5675, VP Baltar wrote:
You mean why is he in the null pool?In post 5670, Galron wrote:
You seem to be getting more and more negative. I can't tell if you're town runnng out of fight or what.In post 5663, VP Baltar wrote:
You think I'm trying to stop it?In post 5660, Nero Cain wrote:ok then flip town
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And now this. sighIn post 5679, tenebrousluminary wrote:
I am not answering this again.In post 5652, Cape90 wrote:
Scorpius is literally the biggest question mark right now, how are they town, their plays make very little sense tbhIn post 5548, tenebrousluminary wrote:Scorpious - town-
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Frogsterking He/himJack of All TradesHe/him
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This is what I wanted to talk about here. I'm sick of the same handful of players being pushed over and over again. I think the majority of the scum team are in the less controversial players. Dease is playing this game very well within their scum range.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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Okay. I found at least part of it.
Nothing definitive, more of a gut thing it appears.In post 3014, tenebrousluminary wrote:I felt your string of posts on the page where you were calling the attack against you random read as very genuine. I also don't think you were faking not knowing that math is confirmed town.
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you could be right on deas but VP is only a push again b/c him and a bunch of others tried to save him and succeded. He's not town.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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You were scum reading Titus' slot from what I can tell and now you're sheeping her. Why?In post 5495, Scorpious wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 5474, Titus wrote:Frogsterking - A few questions to me. Otherwise, no real contribution.
Scorpious - Random vote on Cake and wanting to die.
Save The Dragons - Sheep and leave.
DeasVail - FoS and then VLA
Eyes without a face - Prodded said nothing
April Ludgate - Included to be fair. No real push.
Cape90 - Barely here, but he arguably could be excluded.
A good bulk of your scum are in here.
I’m Sheeping Titus..
This is my lim pool-
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Scorpius is playing a different game than the one I just completed (which you were also in), when I was scum with Scorpius they weren't trying to appear like they didn't care, they were trying to appear like they were calm, which makes sense from a survivalistic view because being calm is +social value. In this game Scorpius appears like he really doesn't care how he's perceived at all which is very anti-survivalism.In post 5687, Galron wrote:Okay. I found at least part of it.
Nothing definitive, more of a gut thing it appears.In post 3014, tenebrousluminary wrote:I felt your string of posts on the page where you were calling the attack against you random read as very genuine. I also don't think you were faking not knowing that math is confirmed town.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Where was he SRing me? I don't remember this. I've been paranoid of Scorpious because it feels like he's too nice to me.In post 5689, Galron wrote:
You were scum reading Titus' slot from what I can tell and now you're sheeping her. Why?In post 5495, Scorpious wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 5474, Titus wrote:Frogsterking - A few questions to me. Otherwise, no real contribution.
Scorpious - Random vote on Cake and wanting to die.
Save The Dragons - Sheep and leave.
DeasVail - FoS and then VLA
Eyes without a face - Prodded said nothing
April Ludgate - Included to be fair. No real push.
Cape90 - Barely here, but he arguably could be excluded.
A good bulk of your scum are in here.
I’m Sheeping Titus..
This is my lim poolShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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In post 5691, Titus wrote:
Where was he SRing me? I don't remember this. I've been paranoid of Scorpious because it feels like he's too nice to me.In post 5689, Galron wrote:
You were scum reading Titus' slot from what I can tell and now you're sheeping her. Why?In post 5495, Scorpious wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 5474, Titus wrote:Frogsterking - A few questions to me. Otherwise, no real contribution.
Scorpious - Random vote on Cake and wanting to die.
Save The Dragons - Sheep and leave.
DeasVail - FoS and then VLA
Eyes without a face - Prodded said nothing
April Ludgate - Included to be fair. No real push.
Cape90 - Barely here, but he arguably could be excluded.
A good bulk of your scum are in here.
I’m Sheeping Titus..
This is my lim poolIn post 637, Scorpious wrote:
Isn’t that way enough to fake though? You just kinda described the ideal behavior for either side.In post 528, Aristeia wrote:
His reactions and thread presence feels unscripted and off the cuff. I expect scum him to be more planned out and careful in how he engages with the thread.In post 513, Yeet wrote:Aristeia, why do you think Datisi is town?
It was before you repped in, and it's a noticeable change.In post 3412, Scorpious wrote:If anyone cares, my strongst scum reads right now are VP, Cape,and Datisi...
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This is the game I was referring to about Scorpius. It just ended. In the linked game scum!Scorpius has an agenda to be viewed as "chill" and outlast the other slots. In this game Scorpius doesn't have an agenda.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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The irony in meta-reading the player who left because of meta-reading. But, yeah, I've seen this from him too. Problem is I'm pretty sure he just did this as scum in a game that ended a few days ago.In post 5690, Frogsterking wrote:
Scorpius is playing a different game than the one I just completed (which you were also in), when I was scum with Scorpius they weren't trying to appear like they didn't care, they were trying to appear like they were calm, which makes sense from a survivalistic view because being calm is +social value. In this game Scorpius appears like he really doesn't care how he's perceived at all which is very anti-survivalism.In post 5687, Galron wrote:Okay. I found at least part of it.
Nothing definitive, more of a gut thing it appears.In post 3014, tenebrousluminary wrote:I felt your string of posts on the page where you were calling the attack against you random read as very genuine. I also don't think you were faking not knowing that math is confirmed town.
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Thiis one I think viewtopic.php?f=23&t=88465 although he does appear more active there. I swear there was one that ended more recently where he was maf.-
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viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88949In post 5696, Galron wrote:Thiis one I think viewtopic.php?f=23&t=88465 although he does appear more active there. I swear there was one that ended more recently where he was maf.
Yeah you might be thinking of this one here, Internal Affairs. I'll look at the game you linked. I think he tries harder to stay alive when he's scum, when he's town he's more apathetic and posts whatever, like he's doing in this game.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.-
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This is from Scorpius D1 in the scum!Scorpius game Galron linked:
Like with Scorpius you reverse dynamic of a "town range" and "scum range" that you would expect to see from an average player. There's a wider range of game-related posts Scorpius will type when he's scum than when he's town. My theory is that Scorpius has issues with game solving on an epistemological level, so he's more invested in the game when his objective is more like participating in a social experiment rather than solving a puzzle.Just F’n wow…
I am going to try here. The level of theory and reasoning here has transcended anything I could even possibly contribute to ,but I am going to try.
From an outsiders perspective.And, what I mean by that is someone that is not as familiar with some of these players as others(played with Galron and Greeting recently and a form
of a Taly). This seems a lot like people are trying to read the person and not the game. I keep seeing posts like “this is “x”‘s scum behavior or this is their town behavior. I know that’s a whole meta thing, not my point here.
I think that’s a dangerous way of looking at this game. This is my first u pick. I submitted some boring ass roles with a town preference because I didn’t want to look like a fool and have the mod have to message me with.” You can’t have that one in this game”. The reason I think this is important is because I doubt I’m the only one that went into this, therefore trying to read the “player” might not be the best way to go about things
I feel I have an ok grasp of what Mastina is laying out. And that’s why I wanted to ask others. Who have played with this person , not about the person. But the logic. It makes sense to me. But I am so
Overwhelmed, that means nothing.
Titus,does seem familiar from my brief stay here a few years back and if memory serves me right, was very on point with many things. This is a vague memeory, mind you.
Anyway. These two are town reads for me, I like the logic and I like the assertiveness of saying that there is a disagreement with it. It comes off to me as two people really trying to solve.
Few notes- I’m not a fan of the belief that game entries are Al.
Also. I think looking at a players wiki should be used as anecdotal at best. I barely knew how to edit mine back in the day and surely haven’t remembered since.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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