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[MalcolmTucker]

have you ever played with me before this is what i do

This isn't answering my question though, I don't think your read of Rathe is particularly strong and I'm getting increasingly annoyed by people (not that you've been the main culprit so far) just defaulting to meta here for either a lack of reads or to justify a certain approach to the game that isn't helping at all. My general view is you have a weak case on Rathe here...that can come from either town or mafia but in a game where reads have been thin on the ground it's interesting nonetheless. Like...to put it a different way, why should your read of Rathe lead me to a conclusion you're more townie than mafia?

i think having a case on rathe is a lot different than not mafia hammering at e-1 and ger not playing d1

just because you tr rathe and think it's weak doesn't mean i'm not "playing the game"

Oh I don't think you're not playing or anything, you're at least engaging and I could absolutely end up being wrong in the end here - I just think it's interesting that you defaulted to "that's how I play" when I questioned you above. I think that's an incredibly weak response because you're obviously experienced and could comfortably play this way as either town or mafia.

[Save The Dragons]

i answered your question with another answer too, did you see that

[Rathe]

i said in 722

recent posts from malcolmtucker i think r good i would take him out of the vote for group

[MalcolmTucker]

i answered your question with another answer too, did you see that

You did, I don't think it really makes your read on Rathe look any stronger to be honest. It just comes across as a particularly weak read and I find it interesting you've both stuck to it without keeping your vote there.

[Save The Dragons]

who's interested in joining the rathe wagon

why would i keep my vote there

[MalcolmTucker]

who's interested in joining the rathe wagon

why would i keep my vote there

Does the fact nobody is interested in the wagon not maybe indicate to you the case for them is quite weak at the moment? What did you do to actually convince anyone to join it beyond a couple of brief posts with fairly weak evidence?

[Save The Dragons]

i don't think the evidence is weak

i also play a lot by gut and can't articulate that

my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it

[Save The Dragons]

why are you tring rathe is a better question

[Rathe]

save the dragons do u want to respond to 583 n 584 u asked me my read of u but didnt engage back

[Rathe]

why are you tring rathe is a better question

what is my mafia agenda

[Rathe]

my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it

ur gut is wrong

[Save The Dragons]

well u only been going after me which feels very mafia

why

[Save The Dragons]

my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it

ur gut is wrong

ur mom is wrong

gottem

[Scorpious]

my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it

ur gut is wrong

ur mom is wrong

gottem

I dont see Rathe scum honestly. seems like it would be too obvious.

[Scorpious]

my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it

ur gut is wrong

ur mom is wrong

gottem

just a follow up, don't do this.. makes me want to vote you just because. no need to be a dick..

[Save The Dragons]

i don't see that as being a dick? but sorry if that offends

[Nero Cain]

I didn't realize that deadline was so close. I feel like there's alot of uselessness in this game. I expect it from NM and maybe Tucker.

Rathe who would you vote besides Gera?

I agree with this, but also...you're one of the Scorpious votes and that's a wagon that has been consistently ahead with the most votes for most of the game, if you're concerned about a lack of proper content or about the deadline nearing without any sort of consensus, why are you not pushing more actively for Scorpious to go? And if you don't actually believe Scorpious is mafia or worthy of elimination, why are you not looking for a proper alternative target instead?

my case on Scorp is laid out in

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So I've done my work while you are just being a hypocrite.

[Scorpious]

i don't see that as being a dick? but sorry if that offends

If you said it to me in real life i'd punch you in the mouth, so maybe not offensive,but yeah, just be better..

[Galron]

I find the current vote tally on Scorpious quite interesting - as has been noted we're nearing elimination and he's generally had the biggest vote tally throughout the game but nobody actually appears to be pushing him or trying to solidify that block as such. Why not, if they want him out?

i mean, do you think it is alignment indicative that i haven’t pushed the scorpious wagon over?

and if you think scorpious is town and the lack of a push is noteworthy then i think that’d be more likely due to mafia waiting to see if i’d push it over and potentially one sitting in the intermediate votes as i mentioned before

It could be either to be fair - just since I TR Scorpious, I find it weird they've had a reasonable number of votes for a lot of the game but nobody seems to be doing anything to move things beyond that. Either way I reckon there could be one scum who's been sitting there, irrespective of whatever alignment Scorpious comes back as. Will need to take a proper look as to who it could be.

I find the current vote tally on Scorpious quite interesting - as has been noted we're nearing elimination and he's generally had the biggest vote tally throughout the game but nobody actually appears to be pushing him or trying to solidify that block as such. Why not, if they want him out?

i mean, do you think it is alignment indicative that i haven’t pushed the scorpious wagon over?

I think you're at least consistently making posts and trying to move the game forward though, you're the most active player here and while that doesn't guarantee town, I feel like most of your posts are adding something to play. Whereas I feel like some other slots are dropping votes on players they potentially feel confident on without doing anything about it beyond that in a way that could easily be mafia coasting by.

names?

On the Scorpious wagon, I feel like this could apply to Nero and Kitty. Doesn't mean they're definitely mafia, could be it's just their best read so far in a game that's been light on proper reads for the most part, but it feels like a wagon that simultaneously won't go away while also not going anywhere in particular.

Did you come up with Nero and Kitty after taking a proper look as to who could be mafia easily coasting by?

A little bit yes - I've been fairly null on both players for now but I'm looking at this from a POV where I mostly TR Scorpious here. I think at least one mafia has an interest in sitting on the potential wagon if that is the case. And if Scorp is mafia, there's potential reasons for someone like Nero to coast on that wagon to create some distance without actually making a major push for elimination at all, even if that's less likely.

Ger could be doing the same but is giving us incredibly little to work with.

Just making sure because there were 3 minutes between those posts, and in my mind taking a proper look implies something different. But I think your response hits the mark to a degree, not significantly so but at least a little bit.

[Scorpious]

I didn't realize that deadline was so close. I feel like there's alot of uselessness in this game. I expect it from NM and maybe Tucker.

Rathe who would you vote besides Gera?

I agree with this, but also...you're one of the Scorpious votes and that's a wagon that has been consistently ahead with the most votes for most of the game, if you're concerned about a lack of proper content or about the deadline nearing without any sort of consensus, why are you not pushing more actively for Scorpious to go? And if you don't actually believe Scorpious is mafia or worthy of elimination, why are you not looking for a proper alternative target instead?

my

shit

case on Scorp is laid out in

561
564
]565
701

So I've done my work while you are just being a hypocrite.

fixed it..

[Galron]

my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it

ur gut is wrong

ur mom is wrong

gottem

just a follow up, don't do this.. makes me want to vote you just because. no need to be a dick..

That looked like a joke to me fwiw.

[Galron]

Not AI really.

[Scorpious]

Not AI really.

I lost my mom,I'm touchy about that stuff, but lets let it go..

[Save The Dragons]

i won't make jokes like that anymore sorry about your loss

why do you think rathe scum would be too obvious

[Galron]

my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it

ur gut is wrong

ur mom is wrong

gottem

just a follow up, don't do this.. makes me want to vote you just because. no need to be a dick..

That looked like a joke to me fwiw.

Clarification not AI for either STD or Scorpious.

I don't think so anyway. If I hadn't thought it looked like a joke may have said something myself. It's like in 8th grade -- I remember sitting in the lunchroom, you know those long tables with a group of friends, but other kids were sitting close and I had my index finger near my nose or was touching my nose or something, and our health teacher walks by and says, kinda loudly because the ambient noise in the room was high, "Hey Galron, get your finger out of your nose." And I was kind of annoyed and defensive because it implied that I was picking my nose, but the fact was that I was not. I thought at that time, and it's stuck with me obviously, that someone can throw something out there that looks like the truth from one angle, but in fact is not the truth.

Pedit: I'm sorry to hear that. I would erase what I wrote, but I think it's part of a larger point.