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[geraintm]

Okay but how do we get any info on D2?

because town will acquire info during the night.

[Scorpious]

Fundamentally I just really dislike the idea we should be expected to do all the work so they can finally start playing on D2.

fundamentally, i think no one should be doing any work on Day 1....

So we should just sit here for ten days and Randomly vote people for lolz?

no, we should all vote No elimination and skip the wasted 10 days...
but i have met exactly zero other players who want to do this...

i have a funny feeling i am going to get shouted at very, very soon

just because you expect to get yelled at for posting dumb shit doesn;t ecuse you for posting dumb shit..

Happy where my vote is..

[angela]

On other matters - I think Pooky's posts on Nero are quite solid, but I also reckon mafia Nero maybe doesn't accept Scorpious' claim here so easily maybe? Could be one for mafia to push and seed some doubt.

okay but why do you accept scorpious’s claim so easily?

[Save The Dragons]

i don't think the evidence is weak

i also play a lot by gut and can't articulate that

my gut says rathe and my gut is usually better than my logical part of my brain anyway so i trust it

i dont trust gut. one, your guy is no better than random, two, you could be scum.

i believe in the power of gut

[angela]

are you a mason?

Even easier to prove than that..

Are you an activated IC or what? You already basically claimed it, might as well reveal?

hm

[angela]

Damnit, I did the same thing I said like 100 posts I want to stop doing..

UNVOTE:

I’m a town mailman b t dubs

UNVOTE:
Send someone you think is town the message "I'm Scorpius and I'm town" or an equivalent tonight then. If they claim they didn't get it, we hang you tomorrow and then them if you were really mailman. 1 for 1. But for now, live.

Few problems here.
1.What if I message scum?
2.Why would anyone believe a random "Hey I'm town" It's possible,but if I got a message like that I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
3.You're lining up lims, never good.

also like potential roleblocker et cetera

ugh the tabling until next day thing feels kinda meh here

[Scorpious]

are you a mason?

Even easier to prove than that..

Are you an activated IC or what? You already basically claimed it, might as well reveal?

hm

I didn't critique those weird comments because it felt like they were doing what I do often, read a post,respond,,then SURPRISE, they answered the question I just asked in the very next post..

[angela]

are you a mason?

Even easier to prove than that..

Are you an activated IC or what? You already basically claimed it, might as well reveal?

hm

I didn't critique those weird comments because it felt like they were doing what I do often, read a post,respond,,then SURPRISE, they answered the question I just asked in the very next post..

a few things to that hm i guess

like i also asked about activated innocent child and such also after you had otherwise claimed while i was reading

and it made me think about how like

why did you think andresvmb pushing you immediately before you claimed was mafia indicative?

and also with things like that i want to make note of it to look at later from a process perspective

like does it actually seem like kittytacky hadn’t yet read the intervening posts and such

like try to reserve engineer how posts seem to have been made

[angela]

honestly, don't know. i normally sit there day 2 and look at the wagons that formed and who was on which ones. i normally have some idea that some wagons are obviously on town players, and anyone joining them for crappy reasoning get naughty points. that combined with whatever info players bring to the table day 2 are what i go on.
im not going to waste the time doing that now though

you realize you can do this ,in real time, on D1.. right?

This post almost gives me the impression you're setting the table to not do much in D2 either..

You are either scum or a Town Pr looking to not get nk'd. I can't decide right now.

Yeah I would at least be willing to accept this if we were in a larger game but 13-player setup means we have, what, max five turns or so? If you're mafia Geraint right now, you can lie low, claim this is your meta approach, and then hope in D2 someone else comes under heavy pressure and then coast into D3 while giving the town barely any evidence to use against you going forward. Fundamentally I just really dislike the idea we should be expected to do all the work so they can finally start playing on D2.

still i fundamentally agree and have tried to engage geraintm with the game to mostly no avail

(though i do think it is kinda absurd that when geraintm did say a few things that scorpious (i think) then said ‘ah i find it scummy that you want to try now!’ or something like that like ….)

still doesn’t make geraintm a particularly likely mafia

like sure it would be quite easy for geraintm to play this way as mafia, but how exactly does that make geraintm the very most likely mafia? how exactly does that make geraintm more likely mafia than other players playing similarly? do you disagree with the information i think we would gain from not mafia elimination as opposed to geraintm?

also like if scorpious had said yes when i asked if scorpious was a mason i would have assumed you were the other mason because something does not feel right here

[MalcolmTucker]

honestly, don't know. i normally sit there day 2 and look at the wagons that formed and who was on which ones. i normally have some idea that some wagons are obviously on town players, and anyone joining them for crappy reasoning get naughty points. that combined with whatever info players bring to the table day 2 are what i go on.
im not going to waste the time doing that now though

you realize you can do this ,in real time, on D1.. right?

This post almost gives me the impression you're setting the table to not do much in D2 either..

You are either scum or a Town Pr looking to not get nk'd. I can't decide right now.

Yeah I would at least be willing to accept this if we were in a larger game but 13-player setup means we have, what, max five turns or so? If you're mafia Geraint right now, you can lie low, claim this is your meta approach, and then hope in D2 someone else comes under heavy pressure and then coast into D3 while giving the town barely any evidence to use against you going forward. Fundamentally I just really dislike the idea we should be expected to do all the work so they can finally start playing on D2.

still i fundamentally agree and have tried to engage geraintm with the game to mostly no avail

(though i do think it is kinda absurd that when geraintm did say a few things that scorpious (i think) then said ‘ah i find it scummy that you want to try now!’ or something like that like ….)

still doesn’t make geraintm a particularly likely mafia

like sure it would be quite easy for geraintm to play this way as mafia, but how exactly does that make geraintm the very most likely mafia? how exactly does that make geraintm more likely mafia than other players playing similarly?

do you disagree with the information i think we would gain from not mafia elimination as opposed to geraintm?

also like if scorpious had said yes when i asked if scorpious was a mason i would have assumed you were the other mason because something does not feel right here

If we need an elimination and NM is the favoured candidate I'm not particularly opposed, I'm just really increasingly getting mafia vibes from ger's approach here. I think the constant reminders they don't do much on D1 aren't helping and it's such an easy way for them to hide as mafia.

[Scorpious]

why did you think andresvmb pushing you immediately before you claimed was mafia indicative?

It's a bad habit I have, I've said it a few times. I respond to pushes with votes,I usually remove them quickly if I can get over myself fast enough.

[Scorpious]

like does it actually seem like kittytacky hadn’t yet read the intervening posts and such

I got the impression they were reading and reacting, I do that a lot too..

[angela]

why did you think andresvmb pushing you immediately before you claimed was mafia indicative?

It's a bad habit I have, I've said it a few times. I respond to pushes with votes,I usually remove them quickly if I can get over myself fast enough.

there’s like, hm,

it’s like you say andresvmb potentially mafia because maybe echoed things i said, which doesn’t make a lot of sense because even if assumed to be true could be done as either alignment,

which i was thinking about because it doesn’t feel like you applied that to anyone else, like kittytacky in this instance,

but it becomes super messy line of thought for me because it’s hard to see why apply it in the first place if not seemingly done in a malicious way

like it’s not mafia indicative to share similar thoughts in and of itself

[angela]

like does it actually seem like kittytacky hadn’t yet read the intervening posts and such

I got the impression they were reading and reacting, I do that a lot too..

oh i also do that a lot, i was maybe leaning that way on first impression but wanted to go through and look at it to make sure later, as it did feel earlier that kittytacky was maybe taking a pre planned approach

so i wanted to look at this closely to see if felt similarly or not when i tried to build it

[Scorpious]

why did you think andresvmb pushing you immediately before you claimed was mafia indicative?

It's a bad habit I have, I've said it a few times. I respond to pushes with votes,I usually remove them quickly if I can get over myself fast enough.

there’s like, hm,

it’s like you say andresvmb potentially mafia because maybe echoed things i said, which doesn’t make a lot of sense because even if assumed to be true could be done as either alignment,

which i was thinking about because it doesn’t feel like you applied that to anyone else, like kittytacky in this instance,

but it becomes super messy line of thought for me because it’s hard to see why apply it in the first place if not seemingly done in a malicious way

like it’s not mafia indicative to share similar thoughts in and of itself

it's a flaw in my game, thats why I removed my vote so fast..

[Galron]

I have bad feelings about Scorpious and Morning Tweet.

VOTE: Scorpious

[Scorpious]

I have bad feelings about Scorpious and Morning Tweet.

VOTE: Scorpious

fair, but why do I get the vote over MT?

[angela]

I have bad feelings about Scorpious and Morning Tweet.

VOTE: Scorpious

thoughts on

scorpious and malcolmtucker both moving to pressuring geraintm at dissolution of andresvmb wagon when there was more existing pressure on you (if i am remembering correctly)?

[Rathe]

my vote will change

[Scorpious]

I have bad feelings about Scorpious and Morning Tweet.

VOTE: Scorpious

Does town me not vote you to make the leading wagon to catch a shitty Gera vote on you as well?

Cause scum me would be all over that..

[Scorpious]

And that’s what I mean when I talk about installed opportunism..

[angela]

just fyi. I will be claiming at 5 votes, I'm not waiting around for an opportunistic vote and the inevitable quickhammer.

I'm clearly a mislim target today..

Okay this answers why he claimed, and I understand it. Was he really at 5 votes though?

Damnit, I did the same thing I said like 100 posts I want to stop doing..

UNVOTE:

I’m a town mailman b t dubs

He was at 4 votes here.

hmhmhm,

i feel like it is hard for me to see why this would really matter,

but it also feels quite similar to you wanting to know why i voted with minutes on the clock in last game as town

but could very much be a galron thing and not an alignment thing

That he was concerned about E-2 because Not Mafia is in the game, but he didn't wait to claim at E-2, he claimed at E-3 when he wasn't under threat of imminent elimination.

i had stated my vote preference at that time so it’s not like scorpious would have felt not mafia was the only outstanding source of potential votes

like it makes sense to me that either alignment would claim there, especially having previously stressed that they would claim

like better to claim too early than too late

[Morning Tweet]

Why you got bad feelings about me, Galron?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tweetie how come you didnt respond to anything I said about you >.>

[Morning Tweet]

cause i aint read it