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April Ludgate · Post Post #7175 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:33 am

Honestly, just let Tene/Eyes figure itself out over the days, because I think one of them are the final scum at this point.

If Eyes fake claimed, and Tene is real, that'll come out later.

If Eyes true claimed, then TeneScum did damage control.

Cape's actions after the Eyes claim are 100% scum motivated, and a repositioning of the gamestate.

MathBlade · Post Post #7176 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:34 am

In post 7175, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 7173, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7171, April Ludgate wrote:Frog/Cape locked team.

Third is in Eyes/STD/Tene/Scorp.

Still dont think it's Scorp.

@Math - My thing with Eyes is, why would they actively make the mistake as scum when they could have just not done anything and avoided it. Cape voting Eyes to only back off once a PR claim looks like Cape being scared of challenging a town PR at this point in the game.

The 4-shot is a really odd thing to claim as scum.

Not saying it's impossible, I still have them for the 3rd slot, but it's not a lock for me right now.

But I do think Cape's scum equity raised heavily after the PR claim, and their actions
I think Cape or Galron are scum yes. Not much has changed there.

@April -> I can’t answer the why yet. I just think someone crumbed something that’s contradictory to eyes claim so I would rather them respond first. Maybe I read something wrong.

If it's Tene, I'd fade tene over Eyes here in an instant. Because Tene was softing by trying to avoid the mass claim, which is super scummy at this point in the game.

Why are you assuming Tene?

April Ludgate · Post Post #7177 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:36 am

Also, you said 'someone' Math, and there was really no other option, and I don't think it needed to be hidden at all. if it were Fire, he'd use it to push Eyes, Galron/DV weren't here.

STD doesnt say anything.

Scorp/Myself are VT.

Cape repositioned completely away from Eyes after

Only real option for it to have been was Tene.

MathBlade · Post Post #7178 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:37 am

In post 7179, April Ludgate wrote:Also, you said 'someone' Math, and there was really no other option, and I don't think it needed to be hidden at all. if it were Fire, he'd use it to push Eyes, Galron/DV weren't here.

STD doesnt say anything.

Scorp/Myself are VT.

Cape repositioned completely away from Eyes after

Only real option for it to have been was Tene.

Your logic is flawed. It’s antitown to say where.

April Ludgate · Post Post #7179 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:37 am

Math, can we claim me as 3rd mason yet and stop the charade?

April Ludgate · Post Post #7180 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:38 am

In post 7180, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7179, April Ludgate wrote:Also, you said 'someone' Math, and there was really no other option, and I don't think it needed to be hidden at all. if it were Fire, he'd use it to push Eyes, Galron/DV weren't here.

STD doesnt say anything.

Scorp/Myself are VT.

Cape repositioned completely away from Eyes after

Only real option for it to have been was Tene.
Your logic is flawed. It’s antitown to say where.

that's a difference in opinion then. I think it's anti-town to stay hidden, especially on Day 5.

MathBlade · Post Post #7181 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:38 am

In post 7181, April Ludgate wrote:Math, can we claim me as 3rd mason yet and stop the charade?

You’re not third mason. There never was a charade

April Ludgate · Post Post #7182 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:39 am

Okay, we'll wait it out then

MathBlade · Post Post #7183 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:39 am

In post 7182, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 7180, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7179, April Ludgate wrote:Also, you said 'someone' Math, and there was really no other option, and I don't think it needed to be hidden at all. if it were Fire, he'd use it to push Eyes, Galron/DV weren't here.

STD doesnt say anything.

Scorp/Myself are VT.

Cape repositioned completely away from Eyes after

Only real option for it to have been was Tene.
Your logic is flawed. It’s antitown to say where.

that's a difference in opinion then. I think it's anti-town to stay hidden, especially on Day 5.

I think it will be worth it. If you want me to consider you town give me room to explore

tenebrousluminary · Post Post #7184 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:40 am

In post 7174, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 6762, Cape90 wrote:
In post 6592, Titus wrote:
In post 6587, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6582, fireisredsir wrote:there's a very good chance all 3 of those are town shots so if you are town then maf team is doing us a favor lol
Kinda where I am at and I think still elim Titus

Wagon shoulda switched to Cape when I tried and scum blantantly overruled me while trying to make it my elim.
You should really reread the thread lol. I literally hammered just to get that day over with.

But if we eliminate me, we eliminate me. Just give me a few days to get my thoughts together.
I hate you because I was about to case April like literally 30 minutes after you hammered who I am less confident on since the Nero flip, but sorta still pretty confident on.

God Nero was openwolfing in the hood, they would have been the easiest push for me today

VOTE: April Ludgate

In post 6770, tenebrousluminary wrote:Okay. VOTE: April

In post 6773, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: April

In post 6781, April Ludgate wrote:Oo, Froggy Protection Posse…ACTIVATE

we been here.

Just gotta figure out which of em are the sheep. They also all actively avoid any deeper analysis on Frogster slot.

Please read my posts.

April Ludgate · Post Post #7185 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:40 am

In post 7185, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7182, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 7180, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7179, April Ludgate wrote:Also, you said 'someone' Math, and there was really no other option, and I don't think it needed to be hidden at all. if it were Fire, he'd use it to push Eyes, Galron/DV weren't here.

STD doesnt say anything.

Scorp/Myself are VT.

Cape repositioned completely away from Eyes after

Only real option for it to have been was Tene.
Your logic is flawed. It’s antitown to say where.

that's a difference in opinion then. I think it's anti-town to stay hidden, especially on Day 5.
I think it will be worth it. If you want me to consider you town give me room to explore

I aint pressuring you to out it, just said my thoughts on the subject. If anything, I'm giving you even more stuff from me to analyze me with, not that you need to, mason buddy.

April Ludgate · Post Post #7186 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:42 am

In post 7186, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 7174, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 6762, Cape90 wrote:
In post 6592, Titus wrote:
In post 6587, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6582, fireisredsir wrote:there's a very good chance all 3 of those are town shots so if you are town then maf team is doing us a favor lol
Kinda where I am at and I think still elim Titus

Wagon shoulda switched to Cape when I tried and scum blantantly overruled me while trying to make it my elim.
You should really reread the thread lol. I literally hammered just to get that day over with.

But if we eliminate me, we eliminate me. Just give me a few days to get my thoughts together.
I hate you because I was about to case April like literally 30 minutes after you hammered who I am less confident on since the Nero flip, but sorta still pretty confident on.

God Nero was openwolfing in the hood, they would have been the easiest push for me today

VOTE: April Ludgate

In post 6770, tenebrousluminary wrote:Okay. VOTE: April

In post 6773, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: April

In post 6781, April Ludgate wrote:Oo, Froggy Protection Posse…ACTIVATE

we been here.

Just gotta figure out which of em are the sheep. They also all actively avoid any deeper analysis on Frogster slot.
Please read my posts.

Frog's known he's been on the chopping block for days, he's been actively doing things that don't look scum motivated, but none of them have any reason.

And you also skip over the fact that Scorp's between Frog/Myself, so if frog can turn scorp onto me, it benefits him greatly.

If you're town, you're just wrong on Frog. I get it, you're on that other side, no shame in being wrong, it's all about getting the right conclusion by the end.

tenebrousluminary · Post Post #7187 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:44 am

That's fine, just don't say I'm not analyzing him when I just did.

April Ludgate · Post Post #7188 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:44 am

In post 7189, tenebrousluminary wrote:That's fine, just don't say I'm not analyzing him when I just did.

I said deep.

tenebrousluminary · Post Post #7189 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:45 am

Oh fuck off.

April Ludgate · Post Post #7190 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:45 am

I also don't see that as an analysis really because you were using it to lead to a conclusion to get to me, which I know is just a factually incorrect read that you also refuse to look deeper.

April Ludgate · Post Post #7191 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:46 am

Not even meaning to be a dick about it, just my thoughts

April Ludgate · Post Post #7192 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:46 am

i dont censor myself that well when im town.

tenebrousluminary · Post Post #7193 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:47 am

I refer you to my previous post.

fireisredsir · Post Post #7194 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:48 am

given the possible partners that tene would have if he were scum here, the movement on the d1 and d2 wagons actually fit kinda perfectly

gonna be annoyed if i had it right originally and everyone convinced me tene was town. still not interested in it today but that's why he isn't quite full town for me yet

MathBlade · Post Post #7195 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:48 am

In post 7193, April Ludgate wrote:Not even meaning to be a dick about it, just my thoughts

Please don’t use this language.

MathBlade · Post Post #7196 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:49 am

In post 7196, fireisredsir wrote:given the possible partners that tene would have if he were scum here, the movement on the d1 and d2 wagons actually fit kinda perfectly

gonna be annoyed if i had it right originally and everyone convinced me tene was town. still not interested in it today but that's why he isn't quite full town for me yet

Tene scum would require another person who softed an inno on Tene to be lying

Not interested in tene

April Ludgate · Post Post #7197 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:50 am

Oh yeah, Math. With that "i dont bus" shtick you mentioned earlier, I have had some really strong busses, but that was also a shtick I built up for like a year for multiple reasons.

1: I got to do heavy research on being super anti-bus, and found that it is generally far superior than the alternative UNLESS you have setup to benefit from the bus, of course, sometimes needing to do so days in advance.

2: I really wanted to pull of some heavy busses, and I did so in an Anime U-pick where I broke Mastina when I bussed Jjh, and then again in an Animals U-Pick where I came up with a gambit and saved a partner to use their ability night one, only to call a guilty on them the next day. So when I bus, I bus hard.

___

Other note, @Math, one of my calling cards as scum is to create so much setup spec WIFOM chaos, and we have very little of that this game.

April Ludgate · Post Post #7198 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:52 am

In post 7198, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7196, fireisredsir wrote:given the possible partners that tene would have if he were scum here, the movement on the d1 and d2 wagons actually fit kinda perfectly

gonna be annoyed if i had it right originally and everyone convinced me tene was town. still not interested in it today but that's why he isn't quite full town for me yet
Tene scum would require another person who softed an inno on Tene to be lying

Not interested in tene

Eh, I'll believe this when it's confirmed to have happened. I don't trust anybody's softs right now. I will not be using this in any way shape or form to adjust any sort of Tene read I have.

Hard claims or bust for me.

April Ludgate · Post Post #7199 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:54 am

In post 7196, fireisredsir wrote:given the possible partners that tene would have if he were scum here, the movement on the d1 and d2 wagons actually fit kinda perfectly

gonna be annoyed if i had it right originally and everyone convinced me tene was town. still not interested in it today but that's why he isn't quite full town for me yet

Here's the thing, you and I both had that mentality with Tene, where we were convinced he was town by other people.

That might be telling, Fire.

I think this makes me scum read Tene a little bit more now that I think about it.

Frog/Cape/Tene/Titus was my solve, and I think that would explain why I started getting more heat by Cape/Tene.