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[MathBlade]

given the possible partners that tene would have if he were scum here, the movement on the d1 and d2 wagons actually fit kinda perfectly

gonna be annoyed if i had it right originally and everyone convinced me tene was town. still not interested in it today but that's why he isn't quite full town for me yet

Tene scum would require another person who softed an inno on Tene to be lying

Not interested in tene

Eh, I'll believe this when it's confirmed to have happened. I don't trust anybody's softs right now. I will not be using this in any way shape or form to adjust any sort of Tene read I have.

Hard claims or bust for me.

I find that softs generally are town motivated barring a major plan so I want to wait and see

[April Ludgate]

Titus set a good trap, i won't even get into the deep layers that went into it, even if it were subconsciously.

Titus has one of my favorite mafia playstyles I've seen.

[April Ludgate]

given the possible partners that tene would have if he were scum here, the movement on the d1 and d2 wagons actually fit kinda perfectly

gonna be annoyed if i had it right originally and everyone convinced me tene was town. still not interested in it today but that's why he isn't quite full town for me yet

Tene scum would require another person who softed an inno on Tene to be lying

Not interested in tene

Eh, I'll believe this when it's confirmed to have happened. I don't trust anybody's softs right now. I will not be using this in any way shape or form to adjust any sort of Tene read I have.

Hard claims or bust for me.

I find that softs generally are town motivated barring a major plan so I want to wait and see

You can be right, I guess. I always forget my scum game is pretty drastically different mentality than most because I definitely soft infinitely more as scum than I do as town.

[fireisredsir]

i mean it is true that one of the people who helped convince me was datisi lol

[April Ludgate]

i mean it is true that one of the people who helped convince me was datisi lol

DV for me, and that's basically what I've been hanging on.

I swear, if I was right during the time when I was saying one of Fire/DV is scum, this is rough. DV scum will sweep past me, I've accepted that.

[MathBlade]

Titus set a good trap, i won't even get into the deep layers that went into it, even if it were subconsciously.

Titus has one of my favorite mafia playstyles I've seen.

Titus and I have some points similar though

But Titus weaponizes truth

It’s more about how and the why I haven’t had a chance to analyze

[fireisredsir]

don't think it would be dv. but cape/frog fits well with the wagon movement

[April Ludgate]

Where are you standing on Frogster/Cape right now, math?

[April Ludgate]

don't think it would be dv. but cape/frog fits well with the wagon movement

yeah, we've been lined up for a while, Fire.

I would have voted Titus yesterday, but it happened fast. You were pulling me out from the pocket.

My Malcolm push was a miss, but I felt the right energy coming from Frog, and if it does end up being Tene, that means the Malcolm wagon was just falling on the wrong side of that Malcolm/Tene when I first jumped in.

[April Ludgate]

@Math - I think something that helps Fire town read me, but unable to define it is because coming from their POV, I just have no possible allies this game because they're doing all the work to defend me. Had Fire not stated their strong town read on me, my posts would mean absolutely nothing but noise today (I am quite noisy still, but it's not just noise, I do try to throw in a bunch of my thoughts and analysis)

Do you see where any of my potential allies would be in this game based on the social dynamics?

[MathBlade]

@Math - I think something that helps Fire town read me, but unable to define it is because coming from their POV, I just have no possible allies this game because they're doing all the work to defend me. Had Fire not stated their strong town read on me, my posts would mean absolutely nothing but noise today (I am quite noisy still, but it's not just noise, I do try to throw in a bunch of my thoughts and analysis)

Do you see where any of my potential allies would be in this game based on the social dynamics?

Fire and one of Cape/Galron maybe Frog.

[MathBlade]

Ooh and maybe eyes as well

[April Ludgate]

I love late game when I'm town. so much less stressful.

I'm a trash talker, I really do apologize. I'm just ultra competitive (though I am happy for the people who win, especially if they played well), and it comes out of me in the heat of the moment, but all in good fun. Love seeing all the different ways people think and what actions they take in games.

like for instance, tene, if you scum, you playing well.

[April Ludgate]

yeah, Fire/April/Galron does make a lot of sense. I can see your perspective on that one. Yeah, oh my gosh, that would be such a terrible position to be in I now am understanding your dread for how possibly end gaming scary that combination is.

[April Ludgate]

Imma use some of that empathy thing and look into tene's position

[MathBlade]

yeah, Fire/April/Galron does make a lot of sense. I can see your perspective on that one. Yeah, oh my gosh, that would be such a terrible position to be in I now am understanding your dread for how possibly end gaming scary that combination is.

I can’t tell if you’re sarcastic or not

[April Ludgate]

Fuck, I make so much sense as scum, and like....in a way where im oily, it's hard to get me, and ive been leading onto misfades and then coming off scott free ish.

But like, ya wanna believe i'm town right. well guess what everyone, i am town this game, you dont need to worry. just listen and follow our leader fire to victory. trust in us. we shall trust in you.

[April Ludgate]

yeah, Fire/April/Galron does make a lot of sense. I can see your perspective on that one. Yeah, oh my gosh, that would be such a terrible position to be in I now am understanding your dread for how possibly end gaming scary that combination is.

I can’t tell if you’re sarcastic or not

i'm more sassy than sarcastic, but genuine evenso!

[April Ludgate]

You see, my mistake on turning on my soul read VPB was my stronger soul read on Nero and then that odd Frogster comment by VPB, really got in my head. And I really started to feel Nero was town.

Good player, that Nero. That VPB slot flipping likely would have lead him to catch scum right after if he lived.

[MathBlade]

Fuck, I make so much sense as scum, and like....in a way where im oily, it's hard to get me, and ive been leading onto misfades and then coming off scott free ish.

But like, ya wanna believe i'm town right. well guess what everyone, i am town this game, you dont need to worry. just listen and follow our leader fire to victory. trust in us. we shall trust in you.

Let me be abundantly clear.

I hate this post and I hate this style

I feel like I am arguing with you for control versus cooperation.

People should be following me which is proper as conf town.

I don’t like you arguing people should follow fire.

[April Ludgate]

Fuck, I make so much sense as scum, and like....in a way where im oily, it's hard to get me, and ive been leading onto misfades and then coming off scott free ish.

But like, ya wanna believe i'm town right. well guess what everyone, i am town this game, you dont need to worry. just listen and follow our leader fire to victory. trust in us. we shall trust in you.

Let me be abundantly clear.

I hate this post and I hate this style

I feel like I am arguing with you for control versus cooperation.

People should be following me which is proper as conf town.

I don’t like you arguing people should follow fire.

oh, right, im not really arguing that you shouldn't be followed, just didn't know if you have chosen or not.

plus, normally, i dont see conf townies as being able to be in that position of always being able to read the game correctly, if that makes sense. We all existing in this world, anyone can pull out a case that starts to make the others go "oh damn, that's right." i really shouldnt have said follow the player, that was just shorthand for going follow the player's reasoning. reasoning can be just a line or two because sometimes that's all it is.

i didn't even know we were arguing, im just kinda talkin to talk. i was more being funny, and presentational in the fact that I've accepted my existence in this game heavily is thanks to Fire.

[April Ludgate]

I'll case frogster again sometime. I think I have a stronger case for Cape, that turn after Eyes being a complete repositioning tool that comes from almost completely accepting the Eyes claim without question implies that Eyes might actually be a town PR, and Cape knows that. So that alone would have been strong enough for me to see that as scum. Frogster one, ties more into VPB, and how all those wagons were built. VPB was challenging Frogster, and it created sides when VPB kept living. I'll pull VPB's case as well.

[the worst]

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[the worst]

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Frogsterking (2): Scorpious, April Ludgate

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[MathBlade]

Fuck, I make so much sense as scum, and like....in a way where im oily, it's hard to get me, and ive been leading onto misfades and then coming off scott free ish.

But like, ya wanna believe i'm town right. well guess what everyone, i am town this game, you dont need to worry. just listen and follow our leader fire to victory. trust in us. we shall trust in you.

Let me be abundantly clear.

I hate this post and I hate this style

I feel like I am arguing with you for control versus cooperation.

People should be following me which is proper as conf town.

I don’t like you arguing people should follow fire.

oh, right, im not really arguing that you shouldn't be followed, just didn't know if you have chosen or not.

plus, normally, i dont see conf townies as being able to be in that position of always being able to read the game correctly, if that makes sense. We all existing in this world, anyone can pull out a case that starts to make the others go "oh damn, that's right." i really shouldnt have said follow the player, that was just shorthand for going follow the player's reasoning. reasoning can be just a line or two because sometimes that's all it is.

i didn't even know we were arguing, im just kinda talkin to talk. i was more being funny, and presentational in the fact that I've accepted my existence in this game heavily is thanks to Fire.

Maybe I am just sensitive because of what Titus was doing and how she shaded me but win or lose I really want people to see the effort I am putting in to be better and shit like that hurts