Open 848: Chromavalon: A Bouquet of Colors [Game Over]

[Noraa]

1000% certain. Flea and titus please help me push this. If I am wrong, FLASHWAGON me tomorrow. I guarantee this so fuckign hard

[Titus]

1000% certain. Flea and titus please help me push this. If I am wrong, FLASHWAGON me tomorrow. I guarantee this so fuckign hard

Mama's must help their baby bears.

[butterflies]

At the beginning of the game, the Mafia Goons are given a list of 5 town, including the 3 Merlins and 2 random Vanilla Townies. They will not know which is which. The Mafia cannot nightkill any of these 5 players on the first night.

For those of you who aren’t seeing what I am, scum gets a list of 5 townies that they can’t kill N1. Dunn’s opening post is about that a muse shouldn’t claim even if they get run up. They’re next post is an extremely scummy vote on Noraa.

Conclusion: Noraa is > than rand one of the 5 townies on the N1 no kill list.

~Nancyfly

This feels premature without a Dunn flip, and possibly circular if you are using it to support a case that Dunn is scum.

Dunn’s opening post specifically referencing about a muse getting run up seemed like weird flex coming from town and in the very next post, makes an extremely scummy vote on Noraa. Also, I hard tr zir and zit BoP on Dunn is very impressive. The combination of both of those posts pinged me when you incorporate the mechanics. I guess we’ll find out post game if I am right about either/both but my gut is telling me I probably am.

~Nancyfly

[butterflies]

I will unvote Noraa for now, my scumread could have been to do with playstyle. I am strongly opposed to the Progo vote, and would prefer Titus/Umlaut to Dunnstral if possible. Thoughts?

Why is either scum?

~Nancyfly

[Noraa]

Dunn/furtive/?
the game is basically solved~

[butterflies]

Progo has seemed pretty straightforward and open, I had them as null but I think I'll change it to a townread. Titus has been coasting a bit and and I still don't like 89. As for Umlaut, they omgussed butterflies but have now backed down, and seem fairly passive.

Why is his omguss scummy? And I disagree, I think he’s been really townie. It was only very early in the game that I doubts on him and Gamma. I don’t anymore.

I don’t recall a Titus scumgame ever where she coasted.

~Nancyfly

[butterflies]

Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

This post also flagged to me so I'm supporting the vote.

We have 2 miselimimations, there's no wiggle room there.

Each game is different with different factors - the players being a big variable shift. Me, I can't guess guess crap. I'd have no chance so I would be pushing the primary goal, not the secondary.

[...]

- £!3 ButterFlea

I think you might have misunderstood furtive here. The "wiggle room" they've mentioned is about the Muses potentially giving clues about their identities in order to increase the Town's chance to catch scum. So defending against the primary goal in expense of the secondary, not the other way around.

What about this post?

It seems to me that both Progo and furtive prefer to focus on furtive’s entrance post and not this one.

~Nancyfly

[Noraa]

it would be hilarious if the team was dunn/furtive/progo

[butterflies]

Lol dunn is almost definitely scum based on this game state.

Go on

1000% certain. Flea and titus please help me push this. If I am wrong, FLASHWAGON me tomorrow. I guarantee this so fuckign hard

Lol, what am I chopped liver? I’m already voting him and agreeing with you. Dunn is being robotic in his responses. He is making no effort to sort you.

~Nancyfly

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: dunnstral
I stand with Noraa

[Noraa]

Lol, what am I chopped liver?

</3333333 no no no it's just that titus and flea were in my control hydra. i feel like they know my ability to sort dunn the best but you also do have some experience with that!!!! I will include you in the battle cries from now on!!!

[butterflies]

They problem isn’t what they’re pointing out, it’s how

I think your case is really good but I prefer Dunn today but none of your very compelling arguments have been lost on me.

~Nancyfly

[Noraa]

VOTE: dunnstral
I stand with Noraa

AHHH dunn is at e-2 the paranoia jitters are starting to CONSUME me. every time agh every time. i always do this but i just need to take a DEEP BREATH and believe IN MYSELF.
ok phew we're good

[butterflies]

Dunn/furtive/?
the game is basically solved~

Progo?

That’s my best guess for the scumteam.

All three seem to be circle jerking each other.

~Nancyfly

[Noraa]

What do you think, Enchant?

also i want to point out that this post is EXTREMELY DAMNING in a way that no other dunn post this game is damning. Maybe that's hard to understand but tonally and vibe-wise, this post is terrible.

[butterflies]

it would be hilarious if the team was dunn/furtive/progo

It would be even more hillarious if we win this game on d3.

Btw, great minds and all. <3

~Nancyfly

[Noraa]

It would be even more hillarious if we win this game on d3.

that would genuinely be hilarious

[butterflies]

Lol, what am I chopped liver?

</3333333 no no no it's just that titus and flea were in my control hydra. i feel like they know my ability to sort dunn the best but you also do have some experience with that!!!! I will include you in the battle cries from now on!!!

It’s okay sweetie, I’m not offended.

Flea actually told me in our hydra chat how impressive your Dunn BoP is, which is also my experience and it’s really cool how we’re mindmelding this game.

~Nancyfly

[numberQ]

Spoiler: Flowers

Vincent van Gogh,

Still Life Vase with Twelve Sunflowers

(1888)

Vote Count (1.6)

butterflies

[0]

[E-2]

Dunnstral

[4]

Noraa, Titus, butterflies, Gamma Emerald
Enchant

[0]

furtiveglance

[0]

Galron

[0]

Gamma Emerald

[0]

implosion

[0]

Noraa

[1]

Dunnstral
ProgoWoshua

[2]

implosion, Umlaut
Titus

[1]

Enchant
Umlaut

[1]

Galron

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to eliminate.

Not Voting:

furtiveglance, ProgoWoshua

Deadline:

April 8th, 2022, 12:00 PM EST ((expired on 2022-04-08 12:00:00))

[butterflies]

It would be even more hillarious if we win this game on d3.

that would genuinely be hilarious

I’m cautiously optimistic that if we stick to the PoE in 232, that could very possibly happen. I just have more reasons to tr everyone else in the playerlist over those 3.

~Nancyfly

[implosion]

I just don't understand having this much conviction in a mafia game in general tbh >_>. Especially on page 10. Like I'm not gonna be surprised if Dunn is scum but there's also nothing about this situation that would make me surprised if Dunn and Noraa were both town.

Like Noraa I'm not gonna ask you to convince me because it doesn't sound like that kind of read but like, idk, I just don't find this convincing.

[implosion]

I want to do more this game but it's really annoyingly hard to get any kind of foothold in reads I feel good about especially with progo not here.

[Enchant]

What do you think, Enchant?

I think that Less is More.

Reminds me Dead Silence.

[furtiveglance]

Dunn/furtive/?
the game is basically solved~

Progo?

That’s my best guess for the scumteam.

All three seem to be circle jerking each other.

~Nancyfly

Don't tell me you're a reddit user....

Just to give some more serious thoughts on the game, I think implosion's recent posts have been quite towny. I previoualy had them null/scum because I thought their tone was too neutral/informational. I'm finding this game quite difficult to play at the moment. Obviously it's really important to listen to your townreads, but I know I have an important role to play as well.

Just to recap my updated reads, butrerflies, Gamma, implosion, Noraa I think are town. I still townlean Progo just based on gut read. I think Dunnstral, Enchant and Galron are in the null range (the latter for being inactive). I think Titus and Umlaut are my biggest scumreads.

[ProgoWoshua]

I admit that I have been scummy. Because of that, I find it suspicious how furtive is still on my side after all this time. Definitely feels like they have some ulterior motive.

I'm willing to sheep in the Dunn/Furtive theory.

VOTE: Dunnstral

If this is wrong, you might flashwagon me instead of Noraa, because I doubt my reputation would recover after that.