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[angela]

it's completely nonsensical

[Andresvmb]

Okay actually, let me take a step back though.

It’s very likely that Scorpious is being set up here. They claimed Mailman, but have had a hard time connecting with anyone and have gathered a lot of votes. So the Scum, who probably have a Jailkeeper or something of the sort, prevented Scorpious from firing a message to make them look like they’re lying (and a real easy target).

[Andresvmb]

Does anybody really think Mailman is the first role Scum use to fake claim? Are you serious?

[Andresvmb]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

[angela]

Does anybody really think Mailman is the first role Scum use to fake claim? Are you serious?

i mean, not normally, but that potentially makes it beneficial for them to do so,

and! scorpious has made strange claims before

and! it makes more sense than other narratives

[angela]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

you know they could just be trying to frame me, the recipient, right?

[Andresvmb]

They’re being set up, and not only are Kitty and you encouraging it with no skepticism, but now you’re arguing I’m partnered with Scorpious? Why don’t you go back and read at our exchanges and point to how it’s theater then. If that’s what you’re going to argue.

[angela]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

you know they could just be trying to frame me, the recipient, right?

and the claim already worked!!!!!! that's the part you're missing

scorpious is alive right now

which is my fault yes

but scorpious is alive and yeah

[Andresvmb]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

you know they could just be trying to frame me, the recipient, right?

C’mon this is absurd. They frame you, you flip Town, they get executed next most likely. They do not set it up that way in advance. Which is what you’re arguing. They had to claim mailman under pressure in D1. Like this is clearly not a strategy to win the game. Where’s your skepticism?

[angela]

They’re being set up, and not only are Kitty and you encouraging it with no skepticism, but now you’re arguing I’m partnered with Scorpious? Why don’t you go back and read at our exchanges and point to how it’s theater then. If that’s what you’re going to argue.

i am going to argue

that scorpious is a mafia

and that we should all vote scorpious

why do you need to also be a mafia

for scorpious to be a mafia?

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: angela

sigh going to be kinda sad if andresvmb v. scorpious was mafia/mafia

and the about face with regards to eachother at one point

doesn't make it completely improbable

anyway scorpious is like 99% lying here

and probably killed pooky partly to push mafia ascetic narrative or whatever

i'm towntowntown

What where you trying to insinuate with this then? Why don’t you help me out?

[angela]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

you know they could just be trying to frame me, the recipient, right?

C’mon this is absurd. They frame you, you flip Town, they get executed next most likely. They do not set it up that way in advance. Which is what you’re arguing. They had to claim mailman under pressure in D1. Like this is clearly not a strategy to win the game. Where’s your skepticism?

they have already bought an extra day from the claim due to my brain worms

why would you think mafia trying to buy a second extra day

would not be beneficial to the mafia?

[angela]

VOTE: angela

sigh going to be kinda sad if andresvmb v. scorpious was mafia/mafia

and the about face with regards to eachother at one point

doesn't make it completely improbable

anyway scorpious is like 99% lying here

and probably killed pooky partly to push mafia ascetic narrative or whatever

i'm towntowntown

What where you trying to insinuate with this then? Why don’t you help me out?

already said i was saying that i was considering the possibility not saying 'oh this must be it!' or anything

[Andresvmb]

Scorpious doesn’t lie about being a mailman unless they’re playing way sub-optimally. In my mind, they’re either being set up (with a block), or you’re Ascetic angela, and Scum. Either way, Scorpious is a horrendous execution unless you can convincingly argue why Scum would lie about being a mailman. Have you seen that before? D1?

[KittyTacky]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

We can 1 for 1 Scorpius and Angela, one has to be lying.

Good night.

[KittyTacky]

Or there's a roleblocker or something.

[angela]

Scorpious doesn’t lie about being a mailman unless they’re playing way sub-optimally. In my mind, they’re either being set up (with a block), or you’re Ascetic angela, and Scum. Either way, Scorpious is a horrendous execution unless you can convincingly argue why Scum would lie about being a mailman. Have you seen that before? D1?

and you think ascetic mafia me kills pooky (who mentioned the ascetic) and not the mailman that could target me? after not simply pushing through the elimination on said mailman yesterday? when i could and should have?

[angela]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

We can 1 for 1 Scorpius and Angela, one has to be lying.

Good night.

no please it's scorpious do not give them momentum to say it's one of us/either order et cetera

important we do not waste another elimination already wasted one due to me being terrible

[Andresvmb]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

you know they could just be trying to frame me, the recipient, right?

C’mon this is absurd. They frame you, you flip Town, they get executed next most likely. They do not set it up that way in advance. Which is what you’re arguing. They had to claim mailman under pressure in D1. Like this is clearly not a strategy to win the game. Where’s your skepticism?

they have already bought an extra day from the claim due to my brain worms

why would you think mafia trying to buy a second extra day

would not be beneficial to the mafia?

Sigh. Scum don’t buy extra days in this way c’mon. There’s absolutely no guarantee at all that mailman as a claim buys you any additional time, because it’s so useless as a role in a vacuum. I have never seen it employed as a fake claim to save a Scum. It’s a useless role the vast majority of the time.

[angela]

Either way, Scorpious is a horrendous execution unless you can convincingly argue why Scum would lie about being a mailman.

scorpious is a mafia because scorpious is lying about the mailman; it does not matter why

[Andresvmb]

Besides I have reason to suspect this setup has a scum mailman. Trust me on this.

You should clarify this.

[Andresvmb]

Either way, Scorpious is a horrendous execution unless you can convincingly argue why Scum would lie about being a mailman.

scorpious is a mafia because scorpious is lying about the mailman; it does not matter why

It’s a dumb fucking lie. No one in their right mind would lie about it. The fact that you’re trying to convince people without even a hint of doubt about this is such a red flag I’m stunned.

[angela]

Either the role is accurate, or they’ve engaged in the dumbest fake claim ever. I don’t necessarily think Scorpious is the best player in the game. But do you really think they boxed themselves into a situation where they had to send a message and didn’t have the capability to do so? That just seems way too dumb.

you know they could just be trying to frame me, the recipient, right?

C’mon this is absurd. They frame you, you flip Town, they get executed next most likely. They do not set it up that way in advance. Which is what you’re arguing. They had to claim mailman under pressure in D1. Like this is clearly not a strategy to win the game. Where’s your skepticism?

they have already bought an extra day from the claim due to my brain worms

why would you think mafia trying to buy a second extra day

would not be beneficial to the mafia?

Sigh. Scum don’t buy extra days in this way c’mon. There’s absolutely no guarantee at all that mailman as a claim buys you any additional time, because it’s so useless as a role in a vacuum. I have never seen it employed as a fake claim to save a Scum. It’s a useless role the vast majority of the time.

yes they do

all of the time

it's one of the best ways to win as mafia

look at game the mafia team won scummy for last year with unlikely day one fake claim

[Scorpious]

I haven’t appreciated how Scorpious has approached the game so far, but I have a hard time seeing how they’re straight up lying about sending angela a message.

I re-read some of what Scorpious’ has been posting. I would argue they’re not all that likely to be Scum to be honest. Not the greatest player perhaps, but probably not Scum. I also really didn’t like how angela was speaking about Not_Mafia towards the end of the day yesterday, covertly trying to dissuade me from saving Not_Mafia. So I’m beginning to think I’m being fooled by angela, and the slot deserves some pressure.

@Scorpious, what did your message say?

"I am sending a message to you because you are obviously the catalyst to the game. I assure you my role is town. Side note between me and you.. The hammer was accidental" ~Scorp

[Andresvmb]

Granted we were struggling towards the end but yeah, NM wasn't a great elimination. Bound to be one or two mafia on there, could be a good idea to vote within that unless another prime candidate comes up.

why would it be

a good idea

to vote within the not mafia wagon?

And how is this a serious question?