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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:16 am

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In post 1406, Andresvmb wrote:Malcolm is Town. One of angela/Kitty/Save The Dragons can die today as far as I’m concerned so far.

@Nero Cain, Rathe I want to see some comments from you I’m interested in your perspectives.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:18 am

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In post 1368, angela wrote:
In post 1367, Andresvmb wrote:VOTE: angela
sigh going to be kinda sad if andresvmb v. scorpious was mafia/mafia


and the about face with regards to eachother at one point

doesn't make it completely improbable

anyway scorpious is like 99% lying here

and probably killed pooky partly to push mafia ascetic narrative or whatever

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That would be both really silly and risky from them since it could've resulted in an elimination, very unlikely, and the suggestion here seems a bit strange. Do you really believe this at all?
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:18 am

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i think i believe the scorpius claim and that he was just likely blocked or something
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:20 am

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In post 1426, MalcolmTucker wrote:That would be both really silly and risky from them since it could've resulted in an elimination, very unlikely, and the suggestion here seems a bit strange. Do you really believe this at all?
i believe it is possible

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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:21 am

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Angela, again, you voted NM yourself, despite wanting Scorpious out. Similarly Scorpious eliminated MM once it was clear we had no alternative, towards the end of the turn. What's the major difference here?
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:21 am

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Angela, again, you voted NM yourself, despite wanting Scorpious out. Similarly Scorpious eliminated MM once it was clear we had no alternative, towards the end of the turn. What's the major difference here?
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:21 am

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sorry, double post unintentional
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:22 am

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In post 1428, angela wrote:
In post 1426, MalcolmTucker wrote:That would be both really silly and risky from them since it could've resulted in an elimination, very unlikely, and the suggestion here seems a bit strange. Do you really believe this at all?
i believe it is possible

and i believe that i would be sad if it were the case, yes
I really don't see how it's possible to be honest. Why would they go all out at each other and risk one of them being eliminated? All it takes is a RP to catch the other and it's potentially a worthless sacrifice. Your play was much more logic-driven than this on D1.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:22 am

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In post 1427, Save The Dragons wrote:i think i believe the scorpius claim and that he was just likely blocked or something
it is possible that scorpious was role blocked, this just does not seem all that likely to me

like why would scorpious even target me? when i was pretty likely nightkill et cetera
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:22 am

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In post 1405, angela wrote:
In post 1404, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1325, KittyTacky wrote:Besides I have reason to suspect this setup has a scum mailman. Trust me on this.
Trust me is not a reason.. Why.. What is your reasoning?
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:23 am

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why did you target angela, scorp
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:23 am

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In post 1432, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 1428, angela wrote:
In post 1426, MalcolmTucker wrote:That would be both really silly and risky from them since it could've resulted in an elimination, very unlikely, and the suggestion here seems a bit strange. Do you really believe this at all?
i believe it is possible

and i believe that i would be sad if it were the case, yes
I really don't see how it's possible to be honest. Why would they go all out at each other and risk one of them being eliminated? All it takes is a RP to catch the other and it's potentially a worthless sacrifice. Your play was much more logic-driven than this on D1.
i've seen mafia do this, like my logic here isn't that this is the case, it's that it is possibly the case, which is generally what my play always is, not really sure what difference you're seeing there
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:24 am

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In post 1430, MalcolmTucker wrote:Angela, again, you voted NM yourself, despite wanting Scorpious out. Similarly Scorpious eliminated MM once it was clear we had no alternative, towards the end of the turn. What's the major difference here?
to be cheeky, the major difference is that i am town
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:25 am

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In post 1436, angela wrote:
In post 1432, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 1428, angela wrote:
In post 1426, MalcolmTucker wrote:That would be both really silly and risky from them since it could've resulted in an elimination, very unlikely, and the suggestion here seems a bit strange. Do you really believe this at all?
i believe it is possible

and i believe that i would be sad if it were the case, yes
I really don't see how it's possible to be honest. Why would they go all out at each other and risk one of them being eliminated? All it takes is a RP to catch the other and it's potentially a worthless sacrifice. Your play was much more logic-driven than this on D1.
i've seen mafia do this, like my logic here isn't that this is the case, it's that it is possibly the case, which is generally what my play always is, not really sure what difference you're seeing there
I mean it can happen, it just doesn't feel like the most likely thing to happen, and your logic seems to be that they both aren't in full agreement with you right now which strikes me as odd given, again, your D1 play was less conspiratorial and more logic-driven for me.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:25 am

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In post 1433, angela wrote:
In post 1427, Save The Dragons wrote:i think i believe the scorpius claim and that he was just likely blocked or something
it is possible that scorpious was role blocked, this just does not seem all that likely to me

like why would scorpious even target me? when i was pretty likely nightkill et cetera
ok, any TI is going to watch you.So no you are not the "pretty likely kill".

Why would I not target the most "influential" players thus far. I mean you had Galron sucking up to you when you were considering voting them.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:26 am

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In post 1437, angela wrote:
In post 1430, MalcolmTucker wrote:Angela, again, you voted NM yourself, despite wanting Scorpious out. Similarly Scorpious eliminated MM once it was clear we had no alternative, towards the end of the turn. What's the major difference here?
to be cheeky, the major difference is that i am town
Yeah but this isn't a good defence when I TR Scorpious. Is your case here based on an actual argument or just vibes and instinct? Feels like it's changing by the post.
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:27 am

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In post 1435, Save The Dragons wrote:why did you target angela, scorp
because up until about an hour ago she seemed like the most collected, solvy player of the game.

I WAS leaning heavy heavy town on them.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:27 am

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ok so ignoring mail stuff rn, Pooly was killed for a reason, have we figured out that reason yet?
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:28 am

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In post 1437, angela wrote:
In post 1430, MalcolmTucker wrote:Angela, again, you voted NM yourself, despite wanting Scorpious out. Similarly Scorpious eliminated MM once it was clear we had no alternative, towards the end of the turn. What's the major difference here?
to be cheeky, the major difference is that i am town
again, total departure from D1 Angela.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:28 am

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In post 1439, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1433, angela wrote:
In post 1427, Save The Dragons wrote:i think i believe the scorpius claim and that he was just likely blocked or something
it is possible that scorpious was role blocked, this just does not seem all that likely to me

like why would scorpious even target me? when i was pretty likely nightkill et cetera
ok, any TI is going to watch you.So no you are not the "pretty likely kill".

Why would I not target the most "influential" players thus far. I mean you had Galron sucking up to you when you were considering voting them.
what does it matter whether or not the player is 'influential'? like why does that make someone a better mailman target?
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:29 am

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D1 angela was pretty town tho
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:30 am

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In post 1409, angela wrote:
In post 1406, Andresvmb wrote:Malcolm is Town. One of angela/Kitty/Save The Dragons can die today as far as I’m concerned so far.

@Nero Cain, Rathe I want to see some comments from you I’m interested in your perspectives.
wait

why is malcolmtucker town?

scorpious is a mafia and lying

why would a team of me/kittytacky/x push this?

this entire thing continues to be nonsensical
I’m not shutting my brain down and arguing that there’s no chance in hell that Scorpious isn’t Scum. It’s possible. Their focus has been strange, and Pooky and I rightly bashed it (as did you). But your insistence that they’re lying without considering that perhaps they’re being set up seems weird to me.

Just my gut is telling me that mailman is a bad fake claim. It is. You could argue it’s a quirky fake claim that buys you time if implemented properly. But long-term, it’s difficult to maintain as Scum because it’s confirmable. What I assumed would happen if Scorpious was Scum is that they would be plenty able to send a message, and that this would let them pocket players. I certainly didn’t immediately assume they would be straight up lying (like I said, extremely hard to maintain long-term). So yeah, I really didn’t expect that they would claim to have sent a message, and then that the message would not have arrived at their destination. Because it sets up a 1v1 that is very much tilted against them. It’s very easy to assume that well, they lied to stay alive, they’re lying about their message, so they need to die.

I low-key also suspect that if they wanted to establish a 1v1, they would have picked me funny enough. Or a player that they could have more easily defeated in a 1v1. As a choice angela, based on how D1, you feel like a terrible choice.
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:30 am

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In post 1443, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1437, angela wrote:
In post 1430, MalcolmTucker wrote:Angela, again, you voted NM yourself, despite wanting Scorpious out. Similarly Scorpious eliminated MM once it was clear we had no alternative, towards the end of the turn. What's the major difference here?
to be cheeky, the major difference is that i am town
again, total departure from D1 Angela.
i don't understand why you're all pushing this narrative

of my play changing being alignment indicative

like it's because i feel like this is very likely now,

no one has said anything that has made me feel like this is not very likely, so
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:32 am

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In post 635, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 627, Morning Tweet wrote:i feel like it's fairly clear angela/scorp/andres are town at this point

i think scum is in like, Pooky/Nero/Galron

I don't think Kitty is scum as much and Rathe pretty much said what i was thinking with regards to scum being more on the quiet side and Scorp/Angela/andres all likely being town

At worst there's one scum in that group but I wouldn't know which rn

i dont believe tweetie actually srs me so this post is quite ??? to me
In post 675, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:galron was mostly inactive for the entire game that tweetie modded so i dont see how she scumreads him for not being around here.
In post 681, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also like did i miss it or did our favorite cow walk in and do anything ai cuz why did tweet just randomly drop him from her scum list?
In post 1068, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:feeling kind of miffed tbh that I wrote all these wild accusations for Tweetie and she did not address them at all >.>
In post 1081, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm actually fine with a tweetie wagon rn cuz she ignored me lol
In post 1173, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:tweetie how come you didnt respond to anything I said about you >.>
In post 1230, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am fine with STD - Tweet - NM atp
If we're going to look at this from the other vantage point of who kills Pooky - I don't think Andante is a terrible candidate albeit appreciate they're just joining the game.

Pooky had a passing suspicion of the slot and was noticing some things they didn't like about their play. Nothing concrete as to make it obvious, given Pooky's an experienced player anyway, but enough that I think mafia might want to feel comfortable and get rid.

I also note that Pooky included STD in their possible mafia pool list before being eliminated. Andante joins and the first joke/passing vote on them comes from...STD. Possible connection there?
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:33 am

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In post 1448, MalcolmTucker wrote:I also note that Pooky included STD in their possible mafia pool list before being eliminated. Andante joins and the first joke/passing vote on them comes from...STD. Possible connection there?
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