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[April Ludgate]

I should probably chill, I guess.

UNVOTE: Frog

make sure i'm not running into a game losing TownFrog misfade.

[tenebrousluminary]

I'd be fine with going Eyes first if that's what the people want. I'm at about 99% on him and 95 on frog

[MathBlade]

A useful proverb to learn even early is

"Corner, sides, center."

This is because it is easier to make territory in corners, than one the sides, than in the centre, and it gives you a direction as to where to play first.

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Official Votecount 5.13

Cape90 (6): MathBlade, Eyes without a face, fireisredsir, DeasVail, tenebrousluminary, April Ludgate

[E-0!]

Frogsterking (2): Scorpious, Cape90
April Ludgate (2): Save The Dragons, Frogsterking

Not Voting (1): Galron,

With 11 players alive, an elimination has been achieved.

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We know there has to be a scum on Cape here assuming 4 scum unless it is Scorpious StD Frog and Galron which is problematic.

Myself, Eyes, fire, DV, tene, April.

We also know that fire’s checks mean StD and April not group scum.

This means eyes should likely go today but I really want April still

[MathBlade]

But I want to try to solve the game before I die and I don’t have time to do that.

I was kind of hoping I died tbh as illogical as the hope was.

[MathBlade]

Eyes and Galron are mechanically scum

I still think Frog is a bad elim tbh

April still feels scummy

Gun to my head Eyes Galron Tene April is my solve

[MathBlade]

I know that doesn’t make mechanical sense but Galron and April are in their scum meta so freakin much

[MathBlade]

I am just going to reread the game again after dinner

[tenebrousluminary]

April can't be group scum and it makes no sense to aim for a traitor that might not even exist so pls put that out of your mind

[tenebrousluminary]

Galron could be group scum that got lucky though, especially if I was right that scum started with some info about our powers

[DeasVail]

Would also support tene or April..

In what world does a ScumApril kill Fire over a Math?

VOTE: Frogster

In most worlds probably.

[the worst]

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Official Votecount 6.1

Frogsterking (2): Scorpious, tenebrousluminary

Not Voting (7): Frogsterking, Save The Dragons, DeasVail, Galron, Eyes without a face, MathBlade, April Ludgate

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 6 will end in (expired on 2022-04-09 23:35:00).

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[MathBlade]

April why frog over eyes?

[DeasVail]

If I had to pick an uncleared person to be town it would still be Tene.

I think it's highly likely Eyes is scum, but maybe there's an outside chance that Eyes is town if it's like... a 5 scum-team total? I still don't buy it, but I guess sometimes I forget how town-sided setups here sometimes are.

I'm okay with limming frogster or Scorpious, even Eyes.

[MathBlade]

ok fine i really wanted to greed for another result, but i probably die here tonight anyway. and if everyone else has the same poe as me then we can solve easier, everyone is getting distracted. plus (i only realized this recently, cause I'm DUMB) if we flip a scum here and there's a traitor my role will be useless

im a traffic analyzer. so i can check if people have private communications.

n1: save the dragons, does NOT have communications
n2: titus, HAS communications
n3: April ludgate, does NOT have communications
n4: deasvail, does NOT have communications

so the only way dragons/april/deas are maf is if they're traitors. or, technically it could be deas+titus as the only groupscum and then like 3 traitors but wtf is that setup. i think we shouldn't ever elim in that group of 3 and should just hunt the groupscum instead. that's why im only considering maf outside of that group.

UNVOTE: so we can discuss and so that people smarter than me can setup spec

So StD, April, Galron, DV don’t have scum communications

[MathBlade]

If I had to pick an uncleared person to be town it would still be Tene.

I think it's highly likely Eyes is scum, but maybe there's an outside chance that Eyes is town if it's like... a 5 scum-team total? I still don't buy it, but I guess sometimes I forget how town-sided setups here sometimes are.

I'm okay with limming frogster or Scorpious, even Eyes.

Why tene? Like he’s pretty high in my scum pool?

[MathBlade]

ok fine i really wanted to greed for another result, but i probably die here tonight anyway. and if everyone else has the same poe as me then we can solve easier, everyone is getting distracted. plus (i only realized this recently, cause I'm DUMB) if we flip a scum here and there's a traitor my role will be useless

im a traffic analyzer. so i can check if people have private communications.

n1: save the dragons, does NOT have communications
n2: titus, HAS communications
n3: April ludgate, does NOT have communications
n4: deasvail, does NOT have communications

so the only way dragons/april/deas are maf is if they're traitors. or, technically it could be deas+titus as the only groupscum and then like 3 traitors but wtf is that setup. i think we shouldn't ever elim in that group of 3 and should just hunt the groupscum instead. that's why im only considering maf outside of that group.

UNVOTE: so we can discuss and so that people smarter than me can setup spec

So StD, April, Galron, DV don’t have scum communications

Whoops Galron can have comms just has to have done N1 kill

[Scorpious]

Can we go back to the page of analyzing me?

I liked that..

[MathBlade]

Can we go back to the page of analyzing me?

I liked that..

You and Tene are likely opposite alignments.

You agreeing with me on Tene and April being scum is either buddying or I am right

Thus you’re probably TVS or SvT

Frogsterking, Scorpious, Galron, Eyes without a face, Tene

These are the only ones with a mafia PT possibly. Galron would have to have done the N1 kill.

[MathBlade]

If I had to pick an uncleared person to be town it would still be Tene.

I think it's highly likely Eyes is scum, but maybe there's an outside chance that Eyes is town if it's like... a 5 scum-team total? I still don't buy it, but I guess sometimes I forget how town-sided setups here sometimes are.

I'm okay with limming frogster or Scorpious, even Eyes.

I pick eyes of that group

I think scum have some fake innos here.

Now that claim from eyes is suspiciously developed if he’s scum why

[Scorpious]

Can we go back to the page of analyzing me?

I liked that..

You and Tene are likely opposite alignments.

You agreeing with me on Tene and April being scum is either buddying or I am right

Thus you’re probably TVS or SvT

Frogsterking, Scorpious, Galron, Eyes without a face, Tene

These are the only ones with a mafia PT possibly. Galron would have to have done the N1 kill.

Mmmmm that’s the stuff…

Still town though..

[MathBlade]

You're all too noisy and I'm glad I managed to get this far, so I'll claim and let someone better at making connections interpret the info

I was a 4-shot follower. My results:

N1 STD (No Action)
N2 Nero (Protective)
N3 Deas (No Action)
N4 tene (No Action)

I was mainly trying to confirm slots that didn't look like they're going to get eliminated anytime soon. Unfortunately Nero got shot at night which is something I could not have controlled or predicted.

I also thought a goon was more likely to do the kill early on so I thought the STD result was a stronger clear than say that of Deas and Deas is still a bit stronger than tene, but I'll leave that to someone who knows better

Current readlist:

[*]Eyes without a face, [*]Nordrom/Mathblade
[*]Save The Dragons, [*]DeasVail, [*]tenebrousluminary
[*]Aristeia/April Ludgate, [*]fireisredsir, [*]skitter30/Galron, [*]Cape90
[*]Frogsterking, [*]Scorpious

So if Eyes is scum then he has to be reasonably sure that checks are the front are more accurate than later.

Means StD is probably town

I also don’t think scum puts two scum buddies in their bottom PoE

So I think Frog is town and Scorpious is scum
Or Scorpious is town and Frog is scum

[MathBlade]

So frog + tene likely same alignment versus Scorpious.

[MathBlade]

So Scorpious Galron eyes and a traitor April
Or Frogger tene eyes and a traitor April makes the most sense

The problem is both solves suck

DV doesn’t want the latter town reading Tene
And the former has us have to hit scorpious which is bad.

And I kinda think it’s the former

[MathBlade]

Like April has now been wrong 5 times in a row

We’re hitting MathBlade territory. So I really don’t want Frogger

[Scorpious]

Like April has now been wrong 5 times in a row

We’re hitting MathBlade territory. So I really don’t want Frogger

No, they haven’t been “wrong”. They’ve been winning..