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[Rathe]

i think we shouldnt even look that way

[angela]

I don't think mass claim is the way forward, andni certainly don't think anders needs to.
Wish angela would focus their attention off anders, i have the pair of you 1st and second in my town pile- right now I have save the day at the top of my most suspicious list and i will, when I have time tomorrow, go back and loom at the votes on wagons now we ha e the extra info of scorpious being scum. Bed now though

my attention not solely or even mostly on andresvmb though? like i don't fully understand why andresvmb treated it that way nor do i understand why you are treating it this way

[angela]

also i don't really understand the objections to a massclaim

like i understand that there

are

objections to a massclaim

but i do not really understand why

but if everyone going to refuse i can certainly work without it

but that doesn't mean i understand why anyone is opposed to it

[angela]

i dont think jacksonvirgo is mafia it would make more sense for him to bus scorpius not heavily defend him the way he did

hmhmhm

it is like, if mafia,

they only needed one vote though

like when jacksonvirgo is fighting hard against the scorpious elimination there they would need one additional vote on geraintm, assuming geraintm town right

and jacksonvirgo angled almost exactly for that, in a way that did not really feel towny at all,

and but so enchant/nero cain were the only outstanding votes

and then nero said would hammer whoever was voted first

and enchant voted scorpious

and then jacksonvirgo went ahead and hammered before nero cain returned

as it's not like jacksonvirgo could be like, no i'll vote geraintm hammer this one instead! at that point

ya know?

[angela]

like i guess it feels to me like the heavy defense makes a lot of sense to come from mafia there

[JacksonVirgo]

and jacksonvirgo is also refusing to claim anyway, so

I wonder why

i mean if you're going to claim town roleblocker you can do so now

i dont think jacksonvirgo is mafia it would make more sense for him to bus scorpius not heavily defend him the way he did

hmhmhm

it is like, if mafia,

they only needed one vote though

like when jacksonvirgo is fighting hard against the scorpious elimination there they would need one additional vote on geraintm, assuming geraintm town right

and jacksonvirgo angled almost exactly for that, in a way that did not really feel towny at all,

and but so enchant/nero cain were the only outstanding votes

and then nero said would hammer whoever was voted first

and enchant voted scorpious

and then jacksonvirgo went ahead and hammered before nero cain returned

as it's not like jacksonvirgo could be like, no i'll vote geraintm hammer this one instead! at that point

ya know?

like i guess it feels to me like the heavy defense makes a lot of sense to come from mafia there

Why would scum out themselves like I did just to protect their partner.

[angela]

right and then they could send mailman message and someone get it and say, see confirmed mailman!!!!!!

like if they win battle

ya know?

[angela]

Why would scum out themselves like I did just to protect their partner.

significant upside if you win the battle and with how well and hard scorpious played this game maybe mafia would feel more compelled to fighting for scorpious

[JacksonVirgo]

right and then they could send mailman message and someone get it and say, see confirmed mailman!!!!!!

like if they win battle

ya know?

You're saying it's a frame as the reason for no action, yet considering that they want to use their action to confirm themselves.
What

[angela]

right and then they could send mailman message and someone get it and say, see confirmed mailman!!!!!!

like if they win battle

ya know?

You're saying it's a frame as the reason for no action, yet considering that they want to use their action to confirm themselves.
What

???????

the frame at that point would have not worked as i wasn't being eliminated there

like the frame was from a completely different point in the game

so updated to end of day two there they can then be thinking, okay well ascetic angle did not work but if we can get scorpious into day three we can confirm mailman for roleblock angle

like that's how the game works everyone has to adjust to things as they occur

i don't understand how you possibly think those thoughts are contradictory

[angela]

like mafia likely were not accounting for kittytacky being a friendly neighbour and kittytacky played quite well

and there isn't really much of a way for mafia to account for that thus why i was thinking maybe informed mafia yesterday when i thought the mailman claim was likely fake

like if you asked scorpious post game what went wrong here they'll probably say it was the friendly neighbour

[Andresvmb]

I don't think mass claim is the way forward, andni certainly don't think anders needs to.
Wish angela would focus their attention off anders, i have the pair of you 1st and second in my town pile- right now I have save the day at the top of my most suspicious list and i will, when I have time tomorrow, go back and loom at the votes on wagons now we ha e the extra info of scorpious being scum. Bed now though

my attention not solely or even mostly on andresvmb though? like i don't fully understand why andresvmb treated it that way nor do i understand why you are treating it this way

I didn’t treat it that way? I wanted to immediately counter the arguments you brought up because I’m not giving anyone an opening to derail the game here. Unless you’re willing to make a comprehensive argument balancing out my posts D1 and D2, I wasn’t going to let your comment about me acting in a Partnery way D2 just slide unchallenged. I really do think that if you look at the totality of my contributions and arguments, it’s a bit absurd. I’m also against a mass claim because there’s just no need for it right now. On balance, I think the Scum benefit more than the Town. Happy to have a mass claim if both STD and JV are Town.

Having said that, I don’t think I ever argued that you had spent too much time focusing on me. That’s just not anything I said. But it’s far easier for me to make points about my own play. And I’ve made my views clear and we don’t generally disagree so not sure what else I should be talking about.

[angela]

I didn’t treat it that way? I wanted to immediately counter the arguments you brought up because I’m not giving anyone an opening to derail the game here. Unless you’re willing to make a comprehensive argument balancing out my posts D1 and D2, I wasn’t going to let your comment about me acting in a Partnery way D2 just slide unchallenged. I really do think that if you look at the totality of my contributions and arguments, it’s a bit absurd. I’m also against a mass claim because there’s just no need for it right now. On balance, I think the Scum benefit more than the Town. Happy to have a mass claim if both STD and JV are Town.

Having said that, I don’t think I ever argued that you had spent too much time focusing on me. That’s just not anything I said. But it’s far easier for me to make points about my own play. And I’ve made my views clear and we don’t generally disagree so not sure what else I should be talking about.

mass claim much much worse at elo

like i do not think towns should mass claim because it is something they 'need' to do, i think towns should mass claim whenever it seems more beneficial to do than to not as having additional information makes the game easier to solve

and fair enough about the rest sorry about that, maybe it just felt that way to me,

[angela]

definitely absolutely mass claim tomorrow if town is eliminated today

[angela]

like today would potentially be a day early for the claim i am aware of that

but if not today always always always tomorrow if a town is eliminated

[Rathe]

oh i forgot jacksonvirgo hammered forget what i said

[Rathe]

u r right angela i thought someone else hammered

[angela]

like today would potentially be a day early for the claim i am aware of that

though i still think today better yeah

but alas

[angela]

oh i forgot jacksonvirgo hammered forget what i said

also noteworthy that jacksonvirgo in that moment

despite having heavily defended scorpious

did not seem to question the motives of either nero cain nor enchant there

[JacksonVirgo]

oh i forgot jacksonvirgo hammered forget what i said

I did, got impatient waiting for nero, didn't see another wagon happening, wanted to see the flip.

[Rathe]

so y defend him so heavy if u were just gonna vote him anyway

[Rathe]

also i am not good at understanding when massclaim is good or bad

[Enchant]

Depends what massclaim gives.

[Nero Cain]

I'm against mass claim on d2.

geraintm
MalcolmTucker
Andresvmb
JacksonVirgo
Save The Dragons

is the POE though

[JacksonVirgo]

so y defend him so heavy if u were just gonna vote him anyway

Got impatient, wanted to see the flip. I am not a fool, I knew they were going to be hammered by Nero might as well speed up the process. See if my logic was right (main reason I was impatient, got a little bit prideful).