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[MathBlade]

This if my theory is correct would also be elo. However my theory may not be correct so I want time to validate and see it.

For today being ELO is the math that there's 1 traitor + 1 scum left and then if there's a mislim today and then the vig also shooting wrong in the night?

No it would require two more group scum and a traitor.

Mainly I am a bit confused if the wagons are TVT why you or NM are not hammered.

[MathBlade]

It is possible for that but unless the vig claims then we don’t know if or when they shoot.

[ShadowGirl]

No it would require two more group scum and a traitor.

Mainly I am a bit confused if the wagons are TVT why you or NM are not hammered.

So we would have 4 scum total in a 12 person game? I haven't played in a nearly a decade so I don't know if that is a set-up that is likely?

Because only NM got to 3 votes (and wasn't hammered). I've only ever been up to two votes.

[MathBlade]

No it would require two more group scum and a traitor.

Mainly I am a bit confused if the wagons are TVT why you or NM are not hammered.

So we would have 4 scum total in a 12 person game? I haven't played in a nearly a decade so I don't know if that is a set-up that is likely?

Because only NM got to 3 votes (and wasn't hammered). I've only ever been up to two votes.

I see your point. I just got done with a 5 in 19 and this is giving me similar vibes.

[MathBlade]

I might just be paranoid and wrong here but I would rather go slow in case I am not.

[ShadowGirl]

I'm here to answer whatever you would like me to about of my reads. I welcome you to go through my ISO, which shows that the NM slot is one that I've been honed in on as lurky/scummy since I replaced in.

Also me being adamant about not ending a day early and getting more info is something that I have made clear about how I play:

ChaosOmega

VOTE: GuiltyLion E-2

I also scumread NK15, the tone in their posting feels fabricated almost to the point like I'm reading a robot. The hyperfocus on the 1 scum/1 traitor thing is silly. It feels really unlikely that GL and NK15 are partnered given NK15's shift onto the wagon, so I think I'm wrong on at least one of my top reads here.

E-2 vote on GL while scumreading NK15 who hasn’t posted in many pages. Would it not make sense to withhold vote and get more info from people (particularly inactive) before an elimination? Also, if NK15 is your scumread, then you should field some question his way as well? Also gives an easy out if GL flips town and to move onto NK15 D2 that what you're sure of is that you have at least one read wrong.

[MathBlade]

This might sound rather rude but I worry about NM no matter what because he just trolls/scums as any alignment.

Can you briefly say what NM has done to make you feel that way?

[ShadowGirl]

This might sound rather rude but I worry about NM no matter what because he just trolls/scums as any alignment.

Can you briefly say what NM has done to make you feel that way?

My vote was for their predecessor Greeting, at the beginning of the day, which was based on D2 play, and again, I've been finding their previous predecessor, Chaos, to be lurky and scummy. But NM themselves hasn't done anything productive since they've replaced in to give me any reason to believe that slot is trying/is town. I have limited past experience with NM. But I have believed this slot was scummy since D1, and they were my preferred D1 elimination target, which changed/compromised on my vote that we were reaching deadline on D1 and that wagon had fizzled out. The person who I ended up voting for on D1 was again due to me believing they had a link to Chaos(/Greeting/NM) slot.

The place that I'm currently at is that I feel that there are just as many people avoiding the Chaos wagon, so that is still my preference, but that I will vote for Meuh as we're coming down to the (deadline) wire, as the 3 vote flip flop was sketch (+ avoiding Chaos wagon).

[ShadowGirl]

Maybe we're both scum

Nice try for when you flip scum, but no.

Also I found this comment by them shady (which I called), that for when they flip, to put a shroud over me by their trolling.

[MathBlade]

[6] Dwlee99: DkKoba, tictac, Not Known 15, Greeting, humaneatingmonkey, Enchant

[1] DkKoba: Dwlee99
[1] Enchant: Roden

[2] Not voting: ShadowGirl, marcistar

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are needed for an elimination.

D2: deadline: (expired on 2022-04-08 13:15:24)

Still have to read something came up. Still working off VCs.
I am kinda thinking that mainly Shadow might be town because she’s off the wagon.

If Dwlee knew he was being down it makes more sense to be frontloaded like Dwlee or TicTac.

I am not feeling Shadow scum anymore.

Could we just throw out my Koba read too and maybe it’s one of TicTac/NM or Shadow/Koba

I kinda feel those are the worlds.

TicTac+NM matches a lot more of a Dwlee knew they were going down than Shadow.

Oh well that’s enough ramblings from a sleep deprived man.

[MathBlade]

Front loaded like DkKoba* omg I can’t type either apparently

[NorwegianboyEE]

[2] Not_Mafia: ShadowGirl, Not_Mafia
[2] ShadowGirl: Roden, DkKoba

[3] Not voting: MathBlade, tictac, Enchant

With 7 players alive, 4 votes are needed for an elimination.

D3: deadline: (expired on 2022-04-15 04:25:15)

[MathBlade]

I don’t like how everyone got quiet….

[Enchant]

I honestly idk at this point.

[tictac]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87284&user_select%5B%5D=32319

thanks.
i'll grant the point that it's possible, tho the announcement (in that game) of there being exactly 3 people with access to any PTs undercuts the point a bit.
also it's 2maf+traitor vs 10 townies as standard, so i'm confused why u think a traitor here (12p) makes this mxlo?
so, currently still think (kobamaf) unlikely, but yea, not conf.

[tictac]

Also me being adamant about not ending a day early and getting more info is something that I have made clear about how I play:

ur attitude when notmaf put himself in L-1 was different tho.

[tictac]

i should vote at this point
VOTE: MathBlade

[tictac]

Intent to E-1 ShadowGirl

This might sound rather rude but I worry about NM no matter what because he just trolls/scums as any alignment.

Can you briefly say what NM has done to make you feel that way?

so u aware that NM gonna hammer anything that he can hammer, right?

[Enchant]

Obviously?

Otherwise why he warning about INTENT TO PUT ON E-1

[tictac]

i noticed it wasn't explicit, and probs should be.
and some people do that, dunno why

[Enchant]

Because putting on E-1 is analog of sacrificing someone to holy cow.

And now it depends, if cow hungry or not.

Mostly cow hungry.

[Enchant]

It's sacred ritual you can't understand.

[MathBlade]

Obviously?

Otherwise why he warning about INTENT TO PUT ON E-1

Intent to E-1 ShadowGirl

This might sound rather rude but I worry about NM no matter what because he just trolls/scums as any alignment.

Can you briefly say what NM has done to make you feel that way?

so u aware that NM gonna hammer anything that he can hammer, right?

Yes. I am aware of that. That’s why I stated intent and didn’t actually do it. Shadow girl’s responses seemed good so I revisited my assumptions.

It was intent but I haven’t actually voted her.

I am kinda tempted more to vote NM.

I find it odd that you decide to vote me when you have a likely guaranteed scum in Shadow/NM. Care to explain why you vote me instead?

Do you think NM and Shadow are both town?

[tictac]

I am kinda tempted more to vote NM.

I find it odd that you decide to vote me when you have a likely guaranteed scum in Shadow/NM. Care to explain why you vote me instead?

Do you think NM and Shadow are both town?

shadow been after NM-slot since day1. don't think the pair is svs.
has to be one scum in the pair tho cause has to be 2 scum left and they have to be somewhere.
and that's also why i voted 4 u. 50%chance in that pair 100%on u. (exaggerated probabilities obviously)

[tictac]

I am kinda tempted more to vote NM.

me too, tho.