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[MathBlade]

[6] GuiltyLion: Dwlee99, Not Known 15, humaneatingmonkey, DkKoba, ChaosOmega, Gamma Emerald
[3] Meuh: tictac, marcistar, GuiltyLion
[1] Dwlee99: Testarossa
[1] tictac: Meuh
[1] humaneatingmonkey: Roden

With 12 players alive, 7 votes are needed for an elimination.

D1: deadline: (expired on 2022-03-29 21:32:48)

[4] humaneatingmonkey: Not Known 15, Gamma Emerald, Roden, Meuh
[3] Meuh: marcistar, GuiltyLion, DkKoba
[2] ChaosOmega: tictac, ShadowGirl
[1] Not Known 15: humaneatingmonkey
[1] Gamma Emerald: ChaosOmega

[1] Not voting: Dwlee99

With 12 players alive, 7 votes are needed for an elimination.

D1: deadline: (expired on 2022-03-29 21:32:48)

pay attention

what I see here is a lot of slots avoiding a Meuh wagon. I don't think anyone who has voted Meuh in either of these VCs is scum looking to take advantage of her. and I think Gamma looks especially odd in this light, when did he develop a scumread on HEM and why? Like is it really just 862? And I don't buy the meme reason to avoid give Meuh a "d1 pass" either, and interactions between them are stilted as well

GL suspected Gamma (who is Enchant)
HEM suspected Koba.

Koba Enchant is also a possibility.

Brain is confused.

[ShadowGirl]

What about tictac and Enchant?

I just would think either me or NM would have been hammered already earlier in the day? Or by now? NM already was up to 3 votes before you replaced in, so if it was about prolonging the day to sussing out a vig claim between NM/me/you(/marci), then one of tictac or Enchant would have asked for a claim from NM? Given that there was no ask for a claim, then it would indicate scum would know that there's no information to be gained from bothering to ask NM (which leans to me to NM being one of the scum). Just the fact of if both me and NM are both town, then voting out either of us - and that we'll flip town - already sets up an easy vote for the following day and tictac doesn't need to get into it with you so aggressively, when they can just cruise through into the next day, since at the point before they were arguing you, you were leaning towards me thinking I was scum, so tictac+Enchant could just have voted out NM and then gone for me next day, with you (? if vig) shooting DkKoba in the night. Or otherwise if now they are just trying to completely stay off the mislimmed wagon so that it's you/Roden/DkKoba/NM if on me, or then me/NM's self vote + 2 others that are not them on NM wagon?

That's the stream of consciousness my brain gave me before sleep so apologies if it's a mess lol

So I'm not saying it's not a possible team, but in terms of possibilities, this feels to me, on the less likely side in terms of the logic of what is happening right now. But if you have some insights on why you think that tictac+Enchant makes more sense to you, I'm happy to hear it.

GL suspected Gamma (who is Enchant)
HEM suspected Koba.

Koba Enchant is also a possibility.

Brain is confused.

But then why does confirmed town Roden survive N2 over not confirmed HEM, who had similar suspicions on Koba/Enchant?

[MathBlade]

Because PR hunting or vig hunting or Roden didn’t suspect Koba because of the “clear”? Not sure

None of this adds up.

[ShadowGirl]

Because PR hunting or vig hunting or Roden didn’t suspect Koba because of the “clear”? Not sure

None of this adds up.

There was no second kill during N1, so I don't know how logical it would be for scum to speculate on there being a vig with no evidence of that? PR hunting also doesn't make as much sense to me when the mason/confirmed town just feels so powerful, and I don't see scum fearing a possible doctor protect on Roden because if there was a doctor then they would likely have counterclaimed Dwlee on D2. So that means Roden is a very possible choice N2.

And Roden was so adamant on Enchant at the end of D2:

Please flip Enchant tomorrow, thanks.

And Roden is far more likely to get sheeped/be a town leader than HEM due to being confirmed town, so if it's tictac+Enchant then I don't see why HEM gets picked over Roden.

So under a tictac+NM scum team, I feel like the likely plan was for Roden to lead an Enchant mislim, which is someone out of the remaining players I don't think anyone was super townreading them - outside of tictac. I think that plan got messed up when I voted Greeting and then Roden ended up voting me and D3 instead becoming this 1vs1 between me and NM.

[Enchant]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

[DkKoba]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

[MathBlade]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I am confused by your question. I did a search and Dwlee claimed simple doctor.

What are you referring to?

[MathBlade]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

Why ShadowGirl? I am not seeing her as scummy.

[Enchant]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I am confused by your question. I did a search and Dwlee claimed simple doctor.

What are you referring to?

Shadow said that Doctor would CC Dwlee if existed.

But there's no point in that.

[Enchant]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

Why ShadowGirl? I am not seeing her as scummy.

Why not?

[MathBlade]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

Why ShadowGirl? I am not seeing her as scummy.

Why not?

Because she seems transparently Townie and one of the few people solving.

[MathBlade]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I am confused by your question. I did a search and Dwlee claimed simple doctor.

What are you referring to?

Shadow said that Doctor would CC Dwlee if existed.

But there's no point in that.

I will have to find this area and look at it.

[Enchant]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

Why ShadowGirl? I am not seeing her as scummy.

Why not?

Because she seems transparently Townie and one of the few people solving.

Of course, it's her head in risk of choping.

[Enchant]

Also about NM.

He mostly unvotes self if there's risk of elim or ELO.

[MathBlade]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

Why ShadowGirl? I am not seeing her as scummy.

Why not?

Because she seems transparently Townie and one of the few people solving.

Of course, it's her head in risk of choping.

Who do you think makes sense with Shadowgirl?

[MathBlade]

i want to lim in tictac or shadowgirl here

Please explain. They don’t seem like a viable pairing.

[Enchant]

If i knew, i would already vote.

[MathBlade]

If i knew, i would already vote.

Can you go into more detail about what you’re thinking on each viable partner then?

[ShadowGirl]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I feel like that's a misrep of early D2, as there was a point even you believed Dwlee could be telling the truth. Obviously in hindsight it feels easy to say it was a sure thing by the end of the day, but that's not what the vibe was in the beginning of the day. Anyways, that was a sub point of my post, in that I was trying to understand why Roden would still be alive today over HEM. Why do you think Roden is still alive today, then?

[MathBlade]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I feel like that's a misrep of early D2, as there was a point even you believed Dwlee could be telling the truth. Obviously in hindsight it feels easy to say it was a sure thing by the end of the day, but that's not what the vibe was in the beginning of the day. Anyways, that was a sub point of my post, in that I was trying to understand why Roden would still be alive today over HEM. Why do you think Roden is still alive today, then?

What’s a sub point?

[Enchant]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I feel like that's a misrep of early D2, as there was a point even you believed Dwlee could be telling the truth. Obviously in hindsight it feels easy to say it was a sure thing by the end of the day, but that's not what the vibe was in the beginning of the day. Anyways, that was a sub point of my post, in that I was trying to understand why Roden would still be alive today over HEM. Why do you think Roden is still alive today, then?

I will get banned for that.

[Enchant]

Just in a case, i would shot Roden as scum. Obviously.

[MathBlade]

Why anyone would reveal self as Doctor, when Dwlee99 was blatant scum and dying like 99%

I feel like that's a misrep of early D2, as there was a point even you believed Dwlee could be telling the truth. Obviously in hindsight it feels easy to say it was a sure thing by the end of the day, but that's not what the vibe was in the beginning of the day. Anyways, that was a sub point of my post, in that I was trying to understand why Roden would still be alive today over HEM. Why do you think Roden is still alive today, then?

I will get banned for that.

Confused why would you get banned for answering a question?

[ShadowGirl]

What’s a sub point?

In that the main point of my post was that I don't see why Roden would not have been shot on N2. I just don't know reasonable it would be to not shoot him due to a doctor assumption.

I feel like that's a misrep of early D2, as there was a point even you believed Dwlee could be telling the truth. Obviously in hindsight it feels easy to say it was a sure thing by the end of the day, but that's not what the vibe was in the beginning of the day. Anyways, that was a sub point of my post, in that I was trying to understand why Roden would still be alive today over HEM. Why do you think Roden is still alive today, then?

I will get banned for that.

You will get banned for saying why you think Roden is alive over HEM?

[ShadowGirl]

Also about NM.

He mostly unvotes self if there's risk of elim or ELO.

And he didn't? So he must feel pretty safe (being scum) - and which if there were two scum on the wagon, then there would be every reason to think he wasn't at risk. Or that if he did flip, it would benefit who was on the wagon.

[3] Not_Mafia: ShadowGirl,

tictac, Not_Mafia

[2] ShadowGirl: Roden, Enchant
[1] tictac: DkKoba

[1] Not voting: marcistar

With 7 players alive, 4 votes are needed for an elimination.

D3: deadline: (expired on 2022-04-15 04:25:15)