Mini Normal 2271 - Game Over

[koopashell]

Uh oh - HEM just stated they want to vote Mala - here comes to stonks drop in FL's reads

[Flavor Leaf]

After rereading the exchange, it feels like a townie acting out because they aren't getting what they want (fully developed read summary + agreement in scumread) + lack of patience.

It's Day 1. Gotta be patient. There isn't much to go on with Mala. My 2 reasons are more than enough for me to warrant my town read on the slot. Yes, I am aware I could be wrong, and getting pocketed, but the scum case isn't strong enough for me to believe so just yet, and it's okay to be wrong/pocketed on Day 1, I'd rather risk being wrong on a slot I town read and have to reanalyze when the game has more information than to possibly misfade Mala for the chance she flips scum.

My 2 reasons:
Mala and I have been lining up, and I felt that we genuinely felt the other was town early.
The Mala wagon itself isn't a wagon I am comfortable voting alongside with, and I believe that shows in my reads.


In addition, I also have the tendency to defend people who are getting wagon'd. Even when I have defended scum in those scenarios, a lot of times, I end up seeing the correct path along the way because I defended them, and that didn't happen here.


So the combination of those things.

There's more than just gut.

Koopa just doesn't care about the reasons because the read goes against their own reads.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i know. we spent two irl days iirc just dragging each other to the dirt. i'm way ahead of you on FL's slot. i'm waiting for malakittens.

i am voting Mala, koopa. also way ahead of you on that one.

i also dont think FL thinks i townread them.

[koopashell]

After rereading the exchange, it feels like a townie acting out because they aren't getting what they want (fully developed read summary + agreement in scumread) + lack of patience.

It's Day 1. Gotta be patient. There isn't much to go on with Mala. My 2 reasons are more than enough for me to warrant my town read on the slot. Yes, I am aware I could be wrong, and getting pocketed, but the scum case isn't strong enough for me to believe so just yet, and it's okay to be wrong/pocketed on Day 1, I'd rather risk being wrong on a slot I town read and have to reanalyze when the game has more information than to possibly misfade Mala for the chance she flips scum.

My 2 reasons:
Mala and I have been lining up, and I felt that we genuinely felt the other was town early.
The Mala wagon itself isn't a wagon I am comfortable voting alongside with, and I believe that shows in my reads.


In addition, I also have the tendency to defend people who are getting wagon'd. Even when I have defended scum in those scenarios, a lot of times, I end up seeing the correct path along the way because I defended them, and that didn't happen here.


So the combination of those things.

There's more than just gut.

Koopa just doesn't care about the reasons because the read goes against their own reads.

Crazy how we haven't been able to hear these "more than gut" reasons. And crazy how they're magically one of their top townreads for whatever it may be.
Anyone can read Mala's ISO and see how junk FL's read there is. Incredible

[koopashell]

i know. we spent two irl days iirc just dragging each other to the dirt. i'm way ahead of you on FL's slot. i'm waiting for malakittens.

i am voting Mala, koopa. also way ahead of you on that one.

i also dont think FL thinks i townread them.

Yeah my bad, just frustrated right now. Trying to convince some of the other townies just feels like its going to prove... difficult.

[humaneatingmonkey]

take your advice from 2 days ago and chill and come back

[Flavor Leaf]

i know. we spent two irl days iirc just dragging each other to the dirt. i'm way ahead of you on FL's slot. i'm waiting for malakittens.

i am voting Mala, koopa. also way ahead of you on that one.

i also dont think FL thinks i townread them.

Yeah my bad, just frustrated right now. Trying to convince some of the other townies just feels like its going to prove... difficult.

Yeah, you're too emotionally fueled right now, it's gonna have the opposite effect. Everytime you try to shade/discredit chop at me, it drowns the Mala wagon out, so I'm very much happy to let you continue chopping.

[humaneatingmonkey]

so do we understand how frustrating it is to be on the other side of FL's catfight?

[Flavor Leaf]

so do we understand how frustrating it is to be on the other side of FL's catfight?

Yeah, people definitely shouldn't try to 1v1 me. Even I know that's not a good spot to be. There are other ways, because most of the time, I'll even work alongside the people who think I am scum.

I got the gift of gab.

[koopashell]

so do we understand how frustrating it is to be on the other side of FL's catfight?

Oh yes, very. Luckily I have experience with such snaky players, notably SPF from Epicmafia/Mafiauniverse, who uses similar wordplay - the archaetype is actually strikingly similar, as well as the weak defense of their partner that is the key to catching them.

[Flavor Leaf]

so do we understand how frustrating it is to be on the other side of FL's catfight?

Oh yes, very. Luckily I have experience with such snaky players, notably SPF from Epicmafia/Mafiauniverse, who uses similar wordplay - the archaetype is actually strikingly similar,

as well as the weak defense of their partner that is the key to catching them.

This is actually you projecting, and you can look at this post game for how you used your own assumption of what my archetype is to read incorrectly.

[koopashell]

Weird, because I just thought of the comparison and has nothing to do with my read

[Flavor Leaf]

Weird, because I just thought of the comparison and has nothing to do with my read

it was still a comparison that came to your head, though. it's not like you didn't think it.

You're just a surface level player when it boils down to it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can lead a camel to water, but if they don't what water is, well, they're gonna die of dehydration :shrug:

[Flavor Leaf]

You're not as strong at 1v1ing as Dkkoba is.

[humaneatingmonkey]

it's embarrassing how much i fell for these

[Flavor Leaf]

it's embarrassing how much i fell for these

you didn't get that level. 1487 was me finally pulling back my filter, and I would say those last 3 posts were my only posts in the game that didn't have some trying to find scum feelers out there.

[Flavor Leaf]

And is also when I know I need to take a break once I lose that filter.

Nobody needs to see what it's like for me to let emotions get to me in a game.

[MathBlade]

God I wonder if this is how I was viewed after HEM died in the other game.

My joy for reading this is done.

[Flavor Leaf]

God I wonder if this is how I was viewed after HEM died in the other game.

My joy for reading this is done.

Yeah, this was def me and you last game.

[Roden]

This game is so draining to read

[koopashell]

This game is so draining to read

Can you take a look at my case on FL + Mala scum together?

From your POV - FL did the same to you - take a look at how you pushed Mala and how FL treated you, since you have a green check on yourself and all.
I believe this is a pair.

My apologies for contributing to the drainingness of the content - I do want to try to focus on what's important.

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes koopa, Roden gets it. he's in the same camp.

talk to other people.

[humaneatingmonkey]

unless Roden has changed his reads?

[Scorpious]

Oish… that was the crumb..

I feel so unfulfilled…

And I’m learning to love lists… I have no idea why..