Open 850: Democrabilities (Postgame)

[Flea The Magician]

I think we should hold conversation about what scum may or should do with each ability and their relative utility until AFTER the ability shows up. Let scum figure out their own strategies

Ok, so give me your thoughts behind shooting and no shooting.

[Cat.Jpeg]

VOTE: No Kill Interested in seeing who is NK'd

[MegAzumarill]

Votecount 1.0.2


furtiveglance (2): RadicalRat, Titus [E-3]

No Elimination (4 ) Flea the Magician, furtiveglance, Alianna, Cat.jpeg [E-1]


Not Voting (3): MalcolmTucker, GoldfishFromTheMoon, Dunnstral,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to make a decision.
Deadline:(expired on 2022-05-03 13:01:27)

[Titus]

This also stops mafia from shooting at the informed player twice later with no consequence.

I don't understand what you mean here. The only situation in which they would shoot the same slot twice is if we used Imprison, and they didn't change their minds on the kill the next night. But I don't see what double eliminating today has to do with that.

Not using the double elim lets the mafia shoot at the imprisoned person twice and bring the game to evens, which we then can't fix. So at the end we end up with 4 person alive and the clear is dead

It's my understanding the BP can never die by nightkill.

[Alianna]

Also, the imprisoned person isn't clear?

[furtiveglance]

Mechanics aside, Radical Rat and Titus are giving me bad vibes. Yes it's because they're voting for me. I think that's understandable. Their attitudes seem a little bit menacing/hostile

[MalcolmTucker]

Mechanics aside, Radical Rat and Titus are giving me bad vibes. Yes it's because they're voting for me. I think that's understandable.

Their attitudes seem a little bit menacing/hostile

In what sense?

[furtiveglance]

7, 71 and 104 from Radical Rat. just don't like the tone

[Flea The Magician]

Also, the imprisoned person isn't clear?

nope.
Only the Inform potentially gives us a clear and that has to go to a Locktown person to make sure of that.

[Flea The Magician]

7, 71 and 104 from Radical Rat. just don't like the tone

Can you substantiate those any further?

[furtiveglance]

It's aggressive, but not in a towny way. I can't really say more than that. If people don't agree then fine

[furtiveglance]

From Titus, 93 is really bizarre. Calling Flea scum for strategic difference of opinion is a massive leap, then voting for me just because I'm the one vote going. Seems really bloodthirsty

[Alianna]

7, 71 and 104 from Radical Rat. just don't like the tone

I’m with you on the last two.
I didn’t interpret 6and 7 as serious so idk why Rat scumread you for it.

[Titus]

From Titus, 93 is really bizarre. Calling Flea scum for strategic difference of opinion is a massive leap, then voting for me just because I'm the one vote going. Seems really bloodthirsty

Town can have a difference of opinion. Scum will jump on it.

[Flea The Magician]

From Titus, 93 is really bizarre. Calling Flea scum for strategic difference of opinion is a massive leap, then voting for me just because I'm the one vote going. Seems really bloodthirsty

Town can have a difference of opinion. Scum will jump on it.

Titus do you have any investment in this game? I'm getting the vibe you're dodging me.

[Titus]

From Titus, 93 is really bizarre. Calling Flea scum for strategic difference of opinion is a massive leap, then voting for me just because I'm the one vote going. Seems really bloodthirsty

Town can have a difference of opinion. Scum will jump on it.

Titus do you have any investment in this game? I'm getting the vibe you're dodging me.

I'm feeling ill. What I've skimmed, I see nothing but campaigning to throw.

[Flea The Magician]

Hope you're better soon <3 Gives me the heebies when you're not more of a presence in games

[Titus]

Hope you're better soon <3 Gives me the heebies when you're not more of a presence in games

Fairish but it's hard to be a presence with no one talking.

[Flea The Magician]

More that I've tried to engage with you and you've felt evasive.

[furtiveglance]

Titus - who is campaigning to throw? and who is scum jumping on it? More clarity of thought please

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Cat.Jpeg

I can only realistically vote for players who are already voting to no-elim if I want to get an elimination. This is the scummiest player doing so.

[Alianna]

VOTE: Cat.Jpeg

I can only realistically vote for players who are already voting to no-elim if I want to get an elimination. This is the scummiest player doing so.

Why do you find Cat scummy?

[Alianna]

Also, @Cat and Goldie, what are your thoughts on each other so far?

[Dunnstral]

They are jumping around between things and don't have strong opinions. They hopped onto no elim without a reason.

[Radical Rat]

I think we should hold conversation about what scum may or should do with each ability and their relative utility until AFTER the ability shows up. Let scum figure out their own strategies

Ok, so give me your thoughts behind shooting and no shooting.

Shooting gives us a non-zero chance of hitting scum, whereas not shooting gives us an exactly zero chance of hitting scum. But even on a miss, the flip and wagon behavior will give us something substantial to work with going forward into the proper elimination. Not shooting does not give us that, and we're essentially just having an absurdly long D1 instead. Further, smaller amount of living slots means higher likelihood of a hit for any of our other PRs, even though it puts us in a more precarious position going by the numbers alone.