Open 850: Democrabilities (Postgame)

[Cat.Jpeg]

me, RR, and furtive in a triangle, nice

[Titus]

Sorry, I've had a lot happening past couple days, didn't find the energy to engage here.

At any rate, I have to agree that Titus looks bad here. Alianna push/vote was questionable, but I was willing to take it as just being wrong, moving on to Dunnstral with a similarly bad/reachy push after no one bit on Alianna though... I think that tips the scale a bit too far.

Lol.

Now I have lost pretty much all hope for this game.

There's no one competent here I can build around.

Most everyone fucked up D1 mechanically.
People ignore social dynamics in a game.

I'd sub out here but that would be strategic here so *shrug*.

[Titus]

Flea is likely town but doesn't know how to play this.
Aliana is pretty blantant scum but no one knows how to actually read an opportunistic read wall.
Those who should know what they are doing frankly aren't.

So either sheep me or get me out. I don't have the time or energy to coddle people who won't see the errors of their ways until like d5.

[Titus]

me, RR, and furtive in a triangle, nice

Probably all town ftr

[Flea The Magician]

I know you're probably trying to read me better but this is so random. I just wasnt thinking about voting earlier and then I was reading back and did.

Yeah I'm far from a "normal" player, I'm very random and chaotic but I know my thought train and when needed I'm occasionally able to elaborate it to people.

[Flea The Magician]

Sorry, I've had a lot happening past couple days, didn't find the energy to engage here.

At any rate, I have to agree that Titus looks bad here. Alianna push/vote was questionable, but I was willing to take it as just being wrong, moving on to Dunnstral with a similarly bad/reachy push after no one bit on Alianna though... I think that tips the scale a bit too far.

Lol.

Now I have lost pretty much all hope for this game.

There's no one competent here I can build around.

Most everyone fucked up D1 mechanically.
People ignore social dynamics in a game.

I'd sub out here but that would be strategic here so *shrug*.

Titus wtaf. Genuinely worried about you now cause you are not the person who goes "Well I wanna sub out but its strategic ss lol!" normally because you know thats not only against rules but its a shit move. It now also confirms my SR on you here.

You know my logic and yours can work together, you made no solid effort to convince me that using the double lim was beneficial for town and you know of all people I will sit and listen to - you are one of them.

Elaborate on the social dynamics here for me.

[Titus]

Titus wtaf. Genuinely worried about you now cause you are not the person who goes "Well I wanna sub out but its strategic ss lol!" normally because you know thats not only against rules but its a shit move. It now also confirms my SR on you here.

It's not against the rules to call people dumb.
Our views yesterday couldn't reconcile. They were straight opposites. Like wtf.
I literally told you everything that you should have already known due to being a player of a certain age. Every rationale for no voting would equally apply to no limming Day 1 which is stupid. It limits VCA. Denies town info. Forces scum to give info on who nk is.

Social dynamics
People with opportunistic reads. A
People lurking things out Dunn
Triangle scumreads Usually all town, particularly in a setup where scum have a negated miselimination

Shall I repeat myself more?

In what universe do I find someone competent here? Like not agreeing with me is fine but someone capable of actually voting scum or strategic play?

[Titus]

To not want to be in a game with no hope can't be against the rules.
Stating it can't be.
Otherwise, strategic sub out against the rules.
Stating that you want out but have to stay cannot be against the rules because then being demoralized becomes against the rules.

[Flea The Magician]

No its not, it's against the rules to talk about subbing out you know that.

Our views were straight opposite but you know I can be talked to and convinced otherwise.

I'm mega sus on A at the moment because as I've said their ISO is so underwhelming they feel like a spectator not a player. Dunn lurks in general and more so in stagnant games.

The triangle thing is interesting actually, my first thought was your rule of 3.

I like to think I am mechanically competent player, maybe I've played too many bastard games at this point though.

Now you've said it, yeah its against rules for you to sub out.

I am more than happy to work with you but you need to show me you're town here.

UNVOTE: Titus

Wheres the moon logic mama bear I know and love?

[Alianna]

Dunn might be scum here.

Go on

Scum!Dunn struggles with content and I saw you elsewhere.

VOTE: Titus

You know Elitelling is bad and this doesn't fit your usual logic for a good vote. You also can struggle with content as scum, and from what I can see you're floundering here.

What is elitelling?

[Alianna]

In 281, Radical Rat has me as slightly scummy, but in 397 they're talking about me like I'm conftown. 355 does it too to a lesser extent. Kind of looks TMI.

[Alianna]

I want to hear what changed between those posts and I want more explanation from Rat on their reads other than Titus and furtive.

[Flea The Magician]

Elitelling is when you accuse someone of being scummy because they're "avoiding the game" by being active elsewhere on site and not posting in the game.

[furtiveglance]

In 281, Radical Rat has me as slightly scummy, but in 397 they're talking about me like I'm conftown. 355 does it too to a lesser extent. Kind of looks TMI.

This is a good catch which needs to be explained by RR.

[furtiveglance]

I could easily vote Radical Rat again. I think Rat/Cat should be today's elimination. Titus is giving a bit more.

[furtiveglance]

Titus wtaf. Genuinely worried about you now cause you are not the person who goes "Well I wanna sub out but its strategic ss lol!" normally because you know thats not only against rules but its a shit move. It now also confirms my SR on you here.

It's not against the rules to call people dumb.
Our views yesterday couldn't reconcile. They were straight opposites. Like wtf.
I literally told you everything that you should have already known due to being a player of a certain age. Every rationale for no voting would equally apply to no limming Day 1 which is stupid. It limits VCA. Denies town info. Forces scum to give info on who nk is.

Social dynamics
People with opportunistic reads. A
People lurking things out Dunn
Triangle scumreads Usually all town, particularly in a setup where scum have a negated miselimination

Shall I repeat myself more?

In what universe do I find someone competent here? Like not agreeing with me is fine but someone capable of actually voting scum or strategic play?

Which of Alianna's reads are opportunistic?

[furtiveglance]

me, RR, and furtive in a triangle, nice

This is such a weird comment. Do you think it proves that we're all town? What's the point of commenting on this?

[furtiveglance]

People scumreading Alianna should read Mewbie 2092. They were widely scumread in that game and eliminated on Day 3. I think they're playing fairly similarly in this game.

[Radical Rat]

In 281, Radical Rat has me as slightly scummy, but in 397 they're talking about me like I'm conftown. 355 does it too to a lesser extent. Kind of looks TMI.

This is a good catch which needs to be explained by RR.

Consequence of not labelling my tiers. Alianna was dead null, not slightly scummy.

Regardless, I object to the interpretation that thinking a push on you is bad means I think you're conftown.

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Titus

I think this needs to happen though. Both the Alianna and Dunnstral pushes were based on things that are just objectively not true, and I'm not buying the "I'm the only competent player in the game" act, despite sharing her frustration with the no lim D1.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Titus

I think this needs to happen though. Both the Alianna and Dunnstral pushes were based on things that are just objectively not true, and I'm not buying the "I'm the only competent player in the game" act, despite sharing her frustration with the no lim D1.

Really strange phrasing - 'this needs to happen'. Only vote for people you think are scum.

Cat.jpeg voting for Radical Rat makes me think they aren't paired, and I'm more sure of RR being scum.

UNVOTE: Cat.Jpeg

VOTE: Radical Rat

[MegAzumarill]

Votecount 1.1.4


Titus (3*) Alianna, GoldfishFromTheMoon, Radical Rat
Alianna (2) Titus, MalcolmTucker
Radical Rat (2) Cat.jpeg, Furtiveglance


Not Voting (1): Dunnstral, Flea the Magician

With 9 alive it takes 5 to send to the shadow realm.
* Denotes plurality

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-09 16:07:45)
Notes: Flea the Magician is V/LA

[Radical Rat]

Really strange phrasing - 'this needs to happen'. Only vote for people you think are scum.

It needs to happen because I think she's scum, for the reasons stated in that very post.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Titus

For lying and not responding to any of my posts after misrepresenting me numerous times

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

That takes Titus to E-1