Newbie 2093 | New Wave | Postgame

[Val89]

I might have some sympathy for that argument if you were making an good faith effort to ensure the information available to you is good, but it's been pointed out by myself and BigT that you aren't; you wanted to be so sure I was scum it affected your ability to do a simple addition.

Kid yourself all you want; scum can't hammer anybody on their own, you had to help them.

[TistDaniel]

Yeah, I did poor addition. If Ash were here right now, she'd probably be arguing that my poor math ability makes me a bad person too.

For what it's worth, I'm also thinking about leaving for a while after this game. I just don't have the time to invest in these.

[Val89]

Really?

I know you are entitled to believe I am scum and this is some sort of appeal to emotion, but I hope you look after my flip knowing I am speaking directly to you and reflect hard.

You are literally going to sit there and tell us, with a straight face, and you understand you don't have the time to invest in making the correct decision, but you feel entitled to roll the dice on behalf of all of us; when there are 3 days on the clock, the scum team is narrowed down to 2 or 3 viable teams at most (and from my point of view is completely solved), and Mala has painted herself into a corner with her 947.

Unbelievable.

[catboi]

Vote Count 3.06

Val89 (2):

Malakittens, TistDaniel

Not Voting (3):

BigTerp, furtiveglance, Val89

With 5 alive, it's 3 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is May 10 at 12:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-05-10 00:00:00)

[Val89]

Even the mod is standing by for the end of game revelations.

I hope you have a good one lined up for us, catboi. I would suggest "You're so vain" by Calry Simon, but I am aware that certainly wouldn't qualify as New Wave.

[TistDaniel]

Ok Val, what could T02 have said to you to convince you he was town and you shouldn't tunnel him an entire day until someone hammers?

[TistDaniel]

You've been a part of every miselim this game. I haven't been a part of a miselim yet. Where do you get off trying to guilt me?

[Val89]

So was Aspho. Literally the only slot in this game you know for definite is town, and someone how you think they are scummy when applied to me, and only me. Same with the activity. I am pretty sure by almost any methodology you are wrong as it applies to Mala/Tttt (who, by the way, hyperposted as scum in the last game I played in) but I know for sure it applies to Apsho/you.

Ill answer your other question re T02, and provide evidence of games where others have called me scum for the same reasons and been wrong, but will you unvote while we have the conversation?

I don't want to waste my time looking for them if the game ends whilat I'm writing it.

[TistDaniel]

I'm not saying town can't be wrong. I'm just saying your can't blame me for losing the game when I replaced in at ELO, having read the entire game and taken notes, but only getting to make one single decision.

You were here from the beginning. You've had more of a role in town losing than I have. The only question is whether your role was intentional.

[BigTerp]

I'll just say that TistDaniel subbed into a REALLY tough spot. Only known town in an ELO situation. I don't envy him in that position at all!! While I disagree with his most of his reads, I do believe he came about them in a genuine way.

[Val89]

You realise the power to stop town from losing is your hands?

Nothing stops you from voting for me again today, and I promise you can do so when Mala and FG are online and get a hammer on me at your whim. You say that you don't want scum to take the decision out of your hands, but scum are literally unable to do that - there are two. It's 3 to elim.

I just can not for the life of me understand why you won't take the time to consider it.

Note Mala DID go radio silent. I suspect she's dipping out until Furtive comes to hammer because she knows shes given the game away.

[furtiveglance]

Hey guys, I've seen that about 5 pages have been added, I'll be on later to digest and start posting. In a few hours' time.

[Val89]

BigT, you are obviously a better man that me. I personally don't see how TistDan can say 'Val is scum by all these metrics', see (or stick his fingers in his ears and refuse to even look) they also apply to his own slot, never mind the others in the game, and say 'see, on all the information I have, Val is most likely scum'.

On the other hand, Furtive gets his revenge for our last game, and I guess I can't begrudge the man that, at least.

[Val89]

Literally your last chance. I've debated saying nothing, and It'll suck for Furtive to lose this chance to win his first scum game on the basis of his inexperience, but wincon demands I ask one final time...

[BigTerp]

If Val is town, the only one besides myself who could hammer to end the game would be Furtive. He came on, addressed the increased participation in the game (5 pages added) and said he'd be back in a few hours to digest and post. That would indicate scum!Furtive trying to buy some time to figure out the plan for the Val/Furtive scum team and essentially eliminates the possibility of a Mala/Furtive scum team.

The only thing holding me back from hammering Val is the possibility that Mala is bussing their partner and started the wagon. Seems rather unlikely. I've mentioned plenty of times how Furtive is my #2. Mala had previously voted there and would only have to convince myself to complete the miselim, with the hammer coming from scum!Val. So scum!Mala wouldn't have too much trouble getting a miselim on town!Furtive. So again, scum!Mala bussing scum!Val seems rather unlikely.

The first scenario seems like an obvious one though, especially considering I've been sitting on my vote since Val went to E-1. The smarter thing to do would be for scum!Furtive to quick hammer scum!Val and then FOS me to a miselim day 4.

Man, I think I've convinced myself that Val is scum. If they are town, and I know I'm town and Daniel is confirmed town the only thing scum!Furtive had to do was vote Val and it's game over. Why in any possible scenario would they not do that?

I'm scared........................VOTE: VAL89

[Val89]

Not the ending I expected, but I blame you less than I do TistDan.

GG.

[Val89]

I suspect that was actually a legitimate stalling post by Furtive, and didn't actually look at the vote count, but if that was a deliberate last fuck you to me... Good one, you can have that

[catboi]

Vote Count 3.07

Val89 (3):

Malakittens, TistDaniel, BigTerp

Not Voting (2):

furtiveglance, Val89

With 5 alive, it took 3 to eliminate.

[catboi]

Val89

was eliminated Day 3.

He was a...

Spoiler:

Mafia Goon

[catboi]

It is now

Night 3

.

The deadline for Night 3 is

May 7

at

3:30 PM EST

. Submit night actions by PM, if applicable.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-05-07 15:30:00)

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[catboi]

TistDaniel

died Night 3. He was a

Town Jailkeeper

.

[catboi]

It is now Day 4.

Vote Count 4.00

Not Voting (3):

BigTerp, furtiveglance, Malakittens

With 3 alive, it's 2 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is May 17 at 4:00 PM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-05-14 16:00:00)

Notes:

BigTerp is V/LA until May 9th.

[furtiveglance]

Malakittens shall we talk until BigTerp gets here?

I think it's you at the moment.

[Malakittens]

I can’t even

[furtiveglance]

Why not